انجینئر محمد علی مرزا کا مفتی طارق مسعود کے لیے جواب آ گیا

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
اللّٰہ کے علاوہ بابوں کی یا کسی اور کی عبادت شرک ہے۔۔۔۔

مگر سلف الصالحین سے متعلق اس کی بکواس پر اس کے پچھواڑے کو سینکنا چاہیئے۔۔

سلف۔۔ یعنی ، پہلی تین نسلیں۔۔۔

Salaf (Arabic: سلف‎, "ancestors" or "predecessors"), also often referred to with the honorific expression of "al-salaf al-ṣāliḥ" (السلف الصالح, "the pious predecessors") are often taken to be the first three generations of Muslims.[1] The first generation of Muslims is considered to be the companions of Muhammad, and are known as the Sahabah. The second generation of Muslims are called the Tabi‘un. The third generation of Muslims are called the Taba Tabi‘in.[2]

آپ نے اسے ٹھیک طریقے سے سنا ہی نہیں۔۔۔ وہ تو مانتے ہی 300 سال کے سلف کو ۔ ۔۔ باقی حضرت معاویہ کے بارے میں نے اوپر ایک پوسٹ میں لکھ دیا ہے۔
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Bloody excuses. Listen to his arrogant talk. if he is such a dare devil, why he didn't take the challenge. He had put the challenge that im sitting till day of judgement, now when the challenge came , he is making excuse why you didnt tell me before, why you didnt this didnt that.

تو یہ مفتی چوک میں ویڈیو ریکارڈ کر کے کیوں گیا؟ اسکی اکیڈمی تو گیا ہی نہیں۔۔۔
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپ نے اسے ٹھیک طریقے سے سنا ہی نہیں۔۔۔ وہ تو مانتے ہی 300 سال کے سلف کو ۔ ۔۔ باقی حضرت معاویہ کے بارے میں نے اوپر ایک پوسٹ میں لکھ دیا ہے۔
پھر یہ کونسے سلف کی بات کررہا تھا ؟
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
تو یہ مفتی چوک میں ویڈیو ریکارڈ کر کے کیوں گیا؟ اسکی اکیڈمی تو گیا ہی نہیں۔۔۔
یہ مفتی بھی ڈرامے باز ہی ہے۔۔۔
اسکی کلپس میں تضاد میں نے خود دیکھا ہے۔۔

ایک کام کے بارے میں بول رہا تھا کہ یہ قطعی طور پر حرام ہے،
مگر میں کھبی کھبار کرتا ہوں

مجھے تو دونوں ڈرامے لگتے ہیں۔
 

AbbuJee

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Not a fan of either of these but the way Mufti sb put the clip was wrong, If the same clip was in from of his academy then it would have made more sense.

Anyways its a non-issue.
 

Fawad Javed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bloody excuses. Listen to his arrogant talk. if he is such a dare devil, why he didn't take the challenge. He had put the challenge that im sitting till day of judgement, now when the challenge came , he is making excuse why you didnt tell me before, why you didnt this didnt that.
wrong number hai kaesay samna kerta
 

Kamboz

Senator (1k+ posts)
تو یہ مفتی چوک میں ویڈیو ریکارڈ کر کے کیوں گیا؟ اسکی اکیڈمی تو گیا ہی نہیں۔۔۔
That is the proper way, the guy challanged him so he arrived in the town and announced it. Mirza was given enough time to reply or suggest a time and data of his liking but he hid and came out days later making excuses.
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اللّٰہ کے علاوہ بابوں کی یا کسی اور کی عبادت شرک ہے۔۔۔۔

مگر سلف الصالحین سے متعلق اس کی بکواس پر اس کے پچھواڑے کو سینکنا چاہیئے۔۔

سلف۔۔ یعنی ، پہلی تین نسلیں۔۔۔

Salaf (Arabic: سلف‎, "ancestors" or "predecessors"), also often referred to with the honorific expression of "al-salaf al-ṣāliḥ" (السلف الصالح, "the pious predecessors") are often taken to be the first three generations of Muslims.[1] The first generation of Muslims is considered to be the companions of Muhammad, and are known as the Sahabah. The second generation of Muslims are called the Tabi‘un. The third generation of Muslims are called the Taba Tabi‘in.[2]

دین اسلام میں بزرگی کا معیار اعمال ہیں
پہلا دوسرا تیسرا نہیں

تو جس کی (نیکیوں کے) پلڑے بھاری ہوں گے۔
تو وہ دل پسند عیش و آرام میں ہوگا۔
اور جس کے (نیکیوں کے پلڑے) ہلکے ہوں گے۔
ان کا ٹھکانہ گہرا گڑھا (ھاویہ) ہوگا۔
101:6-9
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
That is the proper way, the guy challanged him so he arrived in the town and announced it. Mirza was given enough time to reply or suggest a time and data of his liking but he hid and came out days later making excuses.

Show me any such example that other Challengers had adopted such a way to visit a city and ask the other party to contact him through another person phone number?

The proper way would be that before leaving Karachi, he should had called Mirza's academy to get time for Challenge. Hadn't Mirza reply, we would blame him. But in this case Mufti had done a drama to make his supporters more fool.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
یہ مفتی بھی ڈرامے باز ہی ہے۔۔۔
اسکی کلپس میں تضاد میں نے خود دیکھا ہے۔۔

ایک کام کے بارے میں بول رہا تھا کہ یہ قطعی طور پر حرام ہے،
مگر میں کھبی کھبار کرتا ہوں

مجھے تو دونوں ڈرامے لگتے ہیں۔

مرزا کی کافی باتیں ٹھیک ہیں۔ وہ تقریباً اپنی ہر بات کا حوالہ حدیث سے دیتا یے اور یہ مفتی سوائے ڈراموں کے کچھ نہیں کرتا کیونکہ یہ سارے فرقہ ور مولوی کسی حدیث کا حوالہ دے ہی نہیں سکتے کیونکہ انکی کافی باتیں ہوائی ہوتی ہیں۔

مرزا کو آپ آنے اور شروع سے آنے تو اپکو پتا چل جائیگا۔
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
One first listing to Engineer I thought that he is a straight forward person giving translations of Hadith and Quran only , but slowly I realized that he got no respect for Great Scholars of the past and has less than adequate knowledge to comment on others which is his favorite topic.
And he has a narrative and agenda that made him quote incomplete Hadith and omitted Hadith that were against his narrative
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
Engineer cannot even recite Quran Fluently, Even children have MaShaAllah better Tajweed and fluency than this self proclaimed scholar !!
He does not know Arabic, let alone Arabic Grammar and in one of his clips he was saying on a certain issue " Ke ye mera Ijtehad Hai" !!!
He is deluded, self righteous and beyond reproach and lacks basic ethics of public speaking..
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
The need of the times is for young Scholars to educate the youth and guide them so they do not fall into ills that ruin their lives such as drugs, porn addiction, smoking etc etc
Engineer does 180 degree opposite, always dragging Hazrat Mawia R.A and other Sahabah R.A ... keeping audience trapped in centuries old tragedies instead of influencing his followers to be good Muslims without prejudice
This guy is much better
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
SUN lein,
yeh ik fitna hai, jo aaj bhi buhat logon ko gumrah kar raha hai.
گمراہ تو یہ مولوی کرتے ہیں۔ ہر بات جھوٹ بولتے ہیں۔۔

اسکی زبانی نہیں بلکہ آپ بتائے کہ اس نے کیا شیطانیت کی ہے؟
 

hawkkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Don't want to get into a religious debate but he is full of arrogance. A part of him every one is wrong. Does any one knows his source of Islamic education or he a self taught scholer.
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
گمراہ تو یہ مولوی کرتے ہیں۔ ہر بات جھوٹ بولتے ہیں۔۔

اسکی زبانی نہیں بلکہ آپ بتائے کہ اس نے کیا شیطانیت کی ہے؟
Engineer is dragging Hazrat Abu Baker R.A into an event where he R.A was not present .. and trying to cast doubts into the minds of the listeners that Hazrat Abu Bakar R.A was afraid to come forward to aid the Honly Prophet PBUH against the same person he R.A confronted in another Sahih Hadith
The least you can accuse the Engineer of is being ignorant and the most you can accuse him is slandering the good name of Hazarat Abu Bakar R.A