ایسے واقعات کی ذمہ دار ریاستی ادارے اور جاہل عوام ہیں، محمدعلی مرزا

Aristo

Minister (2k+ posts)
چلیں شکر ہے کہ ہم اس بات پر تو متفق ہو گئے کہ گستاخ کی سزا موت ہے۔
اب مسلہ اس کی امپلیمینٹیشن کا ہے۔ تو جناب اس کی زمہ داری تو ریاست کی ہے۔ ریاست کمزور ہے۔ ماضی میں ہم دیکھ چکے ہیں کہ گناہ گار بچ نکلتے ہیں۔ یہاں تک کہ ماضی میں توہین رسالت کے ملزموں کو حکومتی سرپرستی میں بیرون ملک فرار کروانے پرایسا رد عمل آتا ہے۔مسلمان رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم سے فدائیت کی حد تک محبت کرتے ہیں۔ اور یہ ایک عام تاثر ہے کہ گستاخی کے معاملے پر ریاست ناکام ہو جاتی ہے۔ ریاست کی ناکامی کی صورت میں لوگ یہ کام خود کرتے ہے۔ جب لوگ خود کرتے ہیں تو پروسیجر فالو نہیں ہوتا۔ دس لوگوں کو سزا دئیں تو دو تین معصوم بھی اس کے نرغے میں آ جاتے ہیں۔ جیسے کہ کچھ سال پہلے کراچی میں تین ڈاکوں کو قتل کیا گیا کیوں کہ لوگوں کو پتہ تھا کہ پولیس نے چھوڑ دینا ہے۔ بعد میں معلوم ہوا کہ تین میں سے دو تو ڈاکو تھے مگر ایک ڈیٹ مارنے ک لیے بلنڈگ میں گھسا ہوا تھا۔ اور وہ بھی لوگوں کے ہاتھ مارا گیا۔ تو درحقیقت یہ ریاست کی ناکامی ہے۔ ریاست کو چاہیے کہ اپنے لوگوں میں اتنا یقین پیدا کرے کہ کوئی قانون اپنے ہاتھ میں نا لے۔
MA SHA ALLAH kia he daleel de hai ap nay, k jab Riyasat naqam hai saza denay main to Muslman khud saza detay hain, Janab aisay he Riasat ke naqami par hum khud he judge ban kar juram ke saza tajveez karnay lagay to pori society jungle ban jaiye ge yahan har kisi ke nazar main dosra insan kafir hai yahan har koi sirf yeh samjhta hai k sirf wo he muslman hai baqi sab wajib ul qatal aour jahanumi hain to phir sab k pass jawaz ho ga k Riasat k qanoon k mutabiq to osay kuch nahi keh sakta lakin os k mutabiq os ka nazria mushrikana hai is liya osay marna sawab ka kam hai to qatal kar do jo b nazriyat say Ikhtlaf rakhay kyun k Riasat kamzoor hai to khud he judge ban k saza suna do.
 

Fawad Javed

Minister (2k+ posts)
As everyone knows by now I'm no fan of moulvies either but you dislike him because you yourself are a baba follower sectarian, aur yeh moulvi babaon ke khoob lattay ley ta hai.
babay hoon ye Mirza jaesay jahil movli zyada ter wrong number hain
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
babay hoon ye Mirza jaesay jahil movli zyada ter wrong number hain
In my view all molvies are "wrong numbers" including mirza but at least this wrong number exposes even bigger wrong numbers and the scurge of our desi society, all these bhaand sects that have formed and their founders
 

Fawad Javed

Minister (2k+ posts)
In my view all molvies are "wrong numbers" including mirza but at least this wrong number exposes even bigger wrong numbers and the scurge of our desi society, all these bhaand sects that have formed and their founders
at the same time you are a liberal fascist
 

RajaPakistani

Voter (50+ posts)
Agar koi Bhai Mirza Sahab Ka shedaai hai to sirf aik BAr....jee Haan....sirf aik BAAr mufti Rashid mehmood rizvi ko bhe sun le... Mirza Saab Jo kitaabi,kitaabi kehte hein na... Asal kitaabi Kia HOTA hai pata chal Jaye ga
 

drkhan22

Senator (1k+ posts)
This plumber has been a shame on social media, vanished from earth while Mufti saab waited for him in his city. Now all he is left with is social media stunts. What else is he other than a social media hypocrite with a sikh and qadiani style turban
 

Tutiya

MPA (400+ posts)
Lynching in Pakistan does not happen everyday, calm down. He is just cashing on peoples emotions that's what he is good at. Mufti Taqi Usmani has the courage calling spade a spade.
 

hammy_lucky

MPA (400+ posts)
He is telling half truths.
He is a Shia disguised as Sunni.
Sunnis are so naive about their religion and scholars are so stupid too. He is capitalizing on all this.
He uses same Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim in his arguments and create narratives to discredit Sunni Ulemas.
I am not a Shia and I respect their beliefs despite having mine different to them and neither have any problem with them but Mirza is one clever of a youtuber.
 
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Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
This plumber has been a shame on social media, vanished from earth while Mufti saab waited for him in his city. Now all he is left with is social media stunts. What else is he other than a social media hypocrite with a sikh and qadiani style turban
Lynching in Pakistan does not happen everyday, calm down. He is just cashing on peoples emotions that's what he is good at. Mufti Taqi Usmani has the courage calling spade a spade.
Like everyone knows by now I am no fan of any of these moulvies, but I give credit to Mirza for at the very least exposing all these bhaand made up sects and their bhaand molvies and so called bazurgs babas as well as denouncing all sects. So for this I do laud him.

Outside of this he is just another typical moulvi and actually more extreme and conservative than others.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Agar koi Bhai Mirza Sahab Ka shedaai hai to sirf aik BAr....jee Haan....sirf aik BAAr mufti Rashid mehmood rizvi ko bhe sun le... Mirza Saab Jo kitaabi,kitaabi kehte hein na... Asal kitaabi Kia HOTA hai pata chal Jaye ga
Sorry I just watched this video on your recommendation, this guy is just as big a bhaand as rest of the moulvies

 

RajaPakistani

Voter (50+ posts)
Sorry I just watched this video on your recommendation, this guy is just as big a bhaand as rest of the moulvies

mirza saab says himself dont take any video out of context my dear brother.....


in above link mirza saab saying zahoor ahmed faizi is mhadith.... and watch in the following link what happens to that muhadith infront of rashid mehmood rizvi

 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
mirza saab says himself dont take any video out of context my dear brother.....


in above link mirza saab saying zahoor ahmed faizi is mhadith.... and watch in the following link what happens to that muhadith infront of rashid mehmood rizvi

I know this guy was 100% bhaand when at 2:20 he starts to talk about karamat of babas! Anyone who believes in baba's and their so called karamat needs to have his head checked.
 

RajaPakistani

Voter (50+ posts)
I know this guy was 100% bhaand when at 2:20 he starts to talk about karamat of babas! Anyone who believes in baba's and their so called karamat needs to have his head checked.
brother simple point....mirza saab always talk about "ilmi kitaabi".... he was so high about the book written by zahoor ahmed faizi and he was recommending that book to all his followers.... please watch that munazra, you will find out yourself what happens to zahoor faizi saab, what happens to his references and what real ilmi kitaabi means...