حفیظ شیخ کی جیت پر ابہام کیوں ؟

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
حفیظ شیخ کی جیت پر ابہام کیوں ؟
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پاکستان میں مہنگائی کا اندازہ اس بات سے لگایا جا سکتا ہے سینیٹ کی ایک ٹکٹ کی قیمت چند کڑوڑ سے بڑھ کر ایک ارب تک جا پونھچی ہے . کیا پاکستانی سیاستدان اس مہنگائی پر اپنا سینہ پیٹیں گے ؟

بہت عرصے سے حفیظ شیخ کے سینیٹر بننے پر پاکستان میں بحث جاری ہے . چائے کی پیالی میں قیاس آرائی کا طوفان برپا ہے . اس بات میں مجھے کبھی بھی رتی برابر شک نہیں رہا کے ذہنی مفلوج اور منافق پاکستانیوں میں سوچنے سمجھنے کا قحط الرجال دائمی طور پر رچ بس گیا ہے . سونے پر سہاگہ کے پاکستان کے دانشور بھی لاکھوں روپے تنخواہ حلال کرنے کے لئے ٹالک شوز میں ہیجان برپا کئے رہتے ہیں کیونکے پاکستان میں بک بک ہاٹ کیک کی طرح بکتی ہے

کس احمق کو نہیں پتا کے آرمی چیف جنرل باجوہ اور انکے ہمنوا پاکستان میں تمام مافیاز کو کنٹرول کر رہے ہیں ؟
کیا ہم نے نہیں دیکھا تھا کے سینیٹ کا چیئرمین کیسے لگا تھا ؟
کیا احمق اور منافق پاکستانیوں نے نہیں دیکھا تھا کے کسطرح لائنز میں لگا کر سیاستدانوں نے ایکسٹینشن کے لئے ووٹ دئے تھے ؟

کیا احمق اور منافق پاکستانی نہیں جانتے کے جنرل باجوہ نے تمام قومی رہزنوں کو این آر او دیا ہے ؟
ایک زرداری سب پر بھاری ، کیا لوگوں نے زرداری کی سیاسی مہارت نہیں دیکھی کے کسطرح انہوں نے ١٢ جماعتی اتحاد کو پاش پاش کر کے جنرل باجوہ کی معاونت کی ؟

One billion rupees question since one senate seat price has gone to billion rupees

How a compromised Mr. Zardari can snatch senate seat from Lion’s mouth?

یاد رہے کے عالمی طاقتوں کے ایجنٹس معین قریشی ، شوکت عزیز اور حفیظ شیخ کو پاکستان کے آرمی چیفس کی مدد سے پاکستان پر مسلط کیا جاتا ہے . زرداریوں اور شریفوں کی کیا اوقات ہے جو وہ عالمی طاقتوں اور جنرل باجوہ جیسے مافیہ کے ہاتھوں سے یہ سیٹ نکال سکیں ؟

یہ مقابلہ یکطرفہ ہو گا تو اتنے عرصے سے اتنی زیادہ ہیجان خیزی کن احمقوں کے لئے ہے ؟
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
For me HS is not candidate of PTI but GHQ and his loss means a defeat of GHQ.
I don't recall when was last time GHQ lost in Pakistan?

بہت خوب ، اپنے دریا کو کوزے میں بند کر دیا ہے
یہی میں سوچ سوچ کر حیران ہو رہا تھا کے آرمی چیف جیسے مافیہ کو کون شکشت دے سکتا ہے ؟
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بہت خوب ، اپنے دریا کو کوزے میں بند کر دیا ہے
یہی میں سوچ سوچ کر حیران ہو رہا تھا کے آرمی چیف جیسے مافیہ کو کون شکشت دے سکتا ہے ؟
Shah Jee
It looks like under your supervision start learning about Pakistani Politics.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shah Jee
It looks like under your supervision start learning about Pakistani Politics.
Brother, We learn from each other. Let's hope people come out of denail mode and start thinking logically.
سوشل میڈیا پر ایک بہت خوبصورت پوسٹ پڑھنے کو ملا
لوگوں کو بیوقوف بنانا بہت آسان ہے لیکن قائل کرنا کے انھیں بیوقوف بنایا جا رہا ہے ، بہت مشکل ہے


Mark Twain

 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shah Jee
It looks like under your supervision start learning about Pakistani Politics.
Brother, We learn from each other. Let's hope people come out of denail mode and start thinking logically.
سوشل میڈیا پر ایک بہت خوبصورت پوسٹ پڑھنے کو ملا
لوگوں کو بیوقوف بنانا بہت آسان ہے لیکن قائل کرنا کے انھیں بیوقوف بنایا جا رہا ہے ، بہت مشکل ہے


Mark Twain

 

hammy_lucky

MPA (400+ posts)
By election results indicate that GHQ has soften its support for IK. Whether they will withdraw from it, only time will tell. These incidences like the senate elections are a good indicator to judge their mood.
There is pressure on GHQ (after IK’s failures) from within and outside to neutralise things a little.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
By election results indicate that GHQ has soften its support for IK. Whether they will withdraw from it, only time will tell. These incidences like the senate elections are a good indicator to judge their mood.
There is pressure on GHQ (after IK’s failures) from within and outside to neutralise things a little.

If the political show is being hosted by GHQ than how Imran khan could fail ?
Yes, Imran khan has failed in his promise of accountibilty.
To whom we can blame for his failure ?
( I am just giving you one example. You can't build a narative in fine prints)
Mention Imran Khan's failures, I will tell you the reasons.
تمام کھرے جی ایچ کیو کی طرف جاتے ہیں
نظام کو ناکام کرنے والے کوئی اور نہیں بلکہ پاکستان کے تمام آرمی چیفس ہیں
 

hammy_lucky

MPA (400+ posts)
If the political show is being hosted by GHQ than how Imran khan could fail ?
Yes, Imran khan has failed in his promise of accountibilty.
To whom we can blame for his failure ?
( I am just giving you one example. You can't build a narative in fine prints)
Mention Imran Khan's failures, I will tell you the reasons.
تمام کھرے جی ایچ کیو کی طرف جاتے ہیں
نظام کو ناکام کرنے والے کوئی اور نہیں بلکہ پاکستان کے تمام آرمی چیفس ہیں
Because IK is just another project of their delusional knows it all minds.
The project is failing and you know they are not going to take this blame.
So you never know maybe another project like Bilawal or any other....
They fired all their bullets against politicians to annihilate them. They were in a delusion that IK with GHQ will be a successful project but any anti-democratic approach always backfires sooner or later.
Don't forget US election results has changed the dynamics too.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
This moron the thread starter is an anti-Pak Army. AH always starts a thread against the Pak Army. The army must have fucked him good that is why this moron dumb ass is hiding in Toronto.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Because IK is just another project of their delusional knows it all minds.
The project is failing and you know they are not going to take this blame.
So you never know maybe another project like Bilawal or any other....
They fired all their bullets against politicians to annihilate them. They were in a delusion that IK with GHQ will be a successful project but any anti-democratic approach always backfires sooner or later.
Don't forget US election results has changed the dynamics too.
With Due apology Sir, every EveryArmy Chief has an expiry date.
Army Chief has the backing of an institution while Imran Khan has the backing of his people. If someone uses his illegal institutional powers, this does not make him legitimate manager to manage the political helm of affairs. Imran Khan is silent becuase of institution respect.
Imran Khan came into power with his 22 years of struggle and by beating the mafia through a legitimate fight. Imran Khan lost the 2013 elections due to the rigging.
Again, the 2018 election has been stolen. PTI was the only party who filed more complaints than anyone else. Like always, there is undue interference in the affairs of the Government.
Governing the Ungovernable, you must not forget this rule.
You are building a narrative based on delusion.
Just take the example of fixing Punjab police.
Why Mr. Durrani raised his hands and left with dignity?
Reasons are obvious. Army Chief puppet in Punjab ( Dumb fuck Chaudhryies ) did not let him succeed. Look at the accountability process, who failed Imran Khan?

عذر آنے میں بھی ہے اور بُلاتے بھی نہیں
باعثِ ترکِ مُلاقات بتاتے بھی نہیں
خوب پردہ ہے کہ چلمن سے لگے بیٹھے ہیں
صاف چھپتے بھی نہیں سامنے آتے بھی نہیں
ہوچکا قطعٔ تعلق تو جفائیں کیوں ہوں
جن کو مطلب نہیں رہتا وہ ستاتے بھی نہیں
زیست سے تنگ ہو اے داغؔ تو جیتے کیوں ہو
جان پیاری بھی نہیں، جان سے جاتے بھی نہیں

جنرل انتہائی بزدل ہیں ، لڑنے کے وقت کوئی دبئی بھاگ جاتا ہے اور کسی دوسرے ملک میں
یہ لوگ اپنی ناکامی کبھی نہیں مانیں گے

عمران خان کو فری ہینڈ دو ، ناکام ہونے کا سوال ہی نہیں اٹھتا
عمران خان ناکام اسلئے نہیں ہو سکتا کیونکے اسکے پاس کھونے کو کچھ نہیں ہے
باس ، یہ لوگ پاکستان کے نظام میں حائل ہیں
عمران خان کے عزائم میں حائل ہیں

پناہ مانگتا ہوں شیطان مردود ، پاکستانی ججوں اور جرنلوں کے شر سے

Just for the record, Imran khan is gaining strength every passing day
 
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Jazbaati

Minister (2k+ posts)
This moron the thread starter is an anti-Pak Army. AH always starts a thread against the Pak Army. The army must have fucked him good that is why this moron dumb ass is hiding in Toronto.

Anyone who is anti-army is most likely an Indian agent or a traitor. Why would any patriotic Pakistani spread anti army propaganda?
 

hammy_lucky

MPA (400+ posts)
With Due apology Sir, every EveryArmy Chief has an expiry date.
Army Chief has the backing of an institution while Imran Khan has the backing of his people. If someone uses his illegal institutional powers, this does not make him legitimate manager to manage the political helm of affairs. Imran Khan is silent becuase of institution respect.
Imran Khan came into power with his 22 years of struggle and by beating the mafia through a legitimate fight. Imran Khan lost the 2013 elections due to the rigging.
Again, the 2018 election has been stolen. PTI was the only party who filed more complaints than anyone else. Like always, there is undue interference in the affairs of the Government.
Governing the Ungovernable, you must not forget this rule.
You are building a narrative based on delusion.
Just take the example of fixing Punjab police.
Why Mr. Durrani raised his hands and left with dignity?
Reasons are obvious. Army Chief puppet in Punjab ( Dumb fuck Chaudhryies ) did not let him succeed. Look at the accountability process, who failed Imran Khan?

عذر آنے میں بھی ہے اور بُلاتے بھی نہیں
باعثِ ترکِ مُلاقات بتاتے بھی نہیں
خوب پردہ ہے کہ چلمن سے لگے بیٹھے ہیں
صاف چھپتے بھی نہیں سامنے آتے بھی نہیں
ہوچکا قطعٔ تعلق تو جفائیں کیوں ہوں
جن کو مطلب نہیں رہتا وہ ستاتے بھی نہیں
زیست سے تنگ ہو اے داغؔ تو جیتے کیوں ہو
جان پیاری بھی نہیں، جان سے جاتے بھی نہیں

جنرل انتہائی بزدل ہیں ، لڑنے کے وقت کوئی دبئی بھاگ جاتا ہے اور کسی دوسرے ملک میں
یہ لوگ اپنی ناکامی کبھی نہیں مانیں گے

عمران خان کو فری ہینڈ دو ، ناکام ہونے کا سوال ہی نہیں اٹھتا
عمران خان ناکام اسلئے نہیں ہو سکتا کیونکے اسکے پاس کھونے کو کچھ نہیں ہے
باس ، یہ لوگ پاکستان کے نظام میں حائل ہیں
عمران خان کے عزائم میں حائل ہیں

پناہ مانگتا ہوں شیطان مردود ، پاکستانی ججوں اور جرنلوں کے شر سے

Just for the record, Imran khan is gaining strength every passing day
With all respect, if you think IK has come to power by himself than I don't want to tell you that who is delusional.
IK wanted to be prime minister. He got the trophy. He has been used and he let himself to be used. So no need to live in a fool's paradise.
GHQ will find another stooge when required. People can recite Qaseeda e Imran as much and as long as they like.
The show will continue regardless.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ابہام

With all respect, if you think IK has come to power by himself than I don't want to tell you that who is delusional.
IK wanted to be prime minister. He got the trophy. He has been used and he let himself to be used. So no need to live in a fool's paradise.
GHQ will find another stooge when required. People can recite Qaseeda e Imran as much and as long as they like.
The show will continue regardless.
Let me ask you an innocent question

there were three players, two of them got retired hurt.
Who will come on top?
Why a manager does not resign after 73 years of failed policies?

Yes, I agree that Imran Khan is being used.
Yes, I agree that GHQ may find any stooge.
Yes; I agree that the show will continue regardless.

Do you think that Imran Khan will run away from the country like a coward and not put up a fight?
I am a firm believer that Imran Khan is tactfully dealing with the ground realities.
We must not forget every satanic web has come to an end.
My long term prediction is

“Taliban will eventually take control of Pakistan since GHQ has paved way for them “
They will not fight by state rules. They are the ones who will set the rule of the game.

Therefore Imran Khan’s failure is going to be the failure of the entire system.
We are believers. We believe in efforts. You must understand that you need an opening to set up your own game plan.
پانی اپنا راستہ خود تلاش کرتی ہے
Let me remind that people used to Call Imran Khan

A cricketer – What a cricketer know about politics?
Imran Khan is a PM of Facebook
What Burgers party can do in Pakistani politics?
bla….bla….bla
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اگرچہ میں جنرل باجوہ کا حمایتی نہیں ہوں لیکن فوج کے سیاست دانوں کو کنٹرول کرنے کا حمایتی ضرور ہوں
کیونکہ سیاست دانوں پر اگر فوج پریشر نہ ڈالیں تو یہ لوگ تو پاکستان کو زندہ ہی نگل جایئں
یا پھر دوسرے الفاظ میں کینسر زدہ جمہوریت کو اس کے حال پر نہیں چھوڑا جا سکتا
. . . . . . .
ہاں یہ ضرور ہے کہ آرمی جنرلز اگر پاکستان کی بجائے اپنے مفاد کو دیکھتے ہوئے اقدامات کریں تو برا ہے
 

Raja Farooq

Senator (1k+ posts)
With Due apology Sir, every EveryArmy Chief has an expiry date.
Army Chief has the backing of an institution while Imran Khan has the backing of his people. If someone uses his illegal institutional powers, this does not make him legitimate manager to manage the political helm of affairs. Imran Khan is silent becuase of institution respect.
Imran Khan came into power with his 22 years of struggle and by beating the mafia through a legitimate fight. Imran Khan lost the 2013 elections due to the rigging.
Again, the 2018 election has been stolen. PTI was the only party who filed more complaints than anyone else. Like always, there is undue interference in the affairs of the Government.
Governing the Ungovernable, you must not forget this rule.
You are building a narrative based on delusion.
Just take the example of fixing Punjab police.
Why Mr. Durrani raised his hands and left with dignity?
Reasons are obvious. Army Chief puppet in Punjab ( Dumb fuck Chaudhryies ) did not let him succeed. Look at the accountability process, who failed Imran Khan?

عذر آنے میں بھی ہے اور بُلاتے بھی نہیں
باعثِ ترکِ مُلاقات بتاتے بھی نہیں
خوب پردہ ہے کہ چلمن سے لگے بیٹھے ہیں
صاف چھپتے بھی نہیں سامنے آتے بھی نہیں
ہوچکا قطعٔ تعلق تو جفائیں کیوں ہوں
جن کو مطلب نہیں رہتا وہ ستاتے بھی نہیں
زیست سے تنگ ہو اے داغؔ تو جیتے کیوں ہو
جان پیاری بھی نہیں، جان سے جاتے بھی نہیں

جنرل انتہائی بزدل ہیں ، لڑنے کے وقت کوئی دبئی بھاگ جاتا ہے اور کسی دوسرے ملک میں
یہ لوگ اپنی ناکامی کبھی نہیں مانیں گے

عمران خان کو فری ہینڈ دو ، ناکام ہونے کا سوال ہی نہیں اٹھتا
عمران خان ناکام اسلئے نہیں ہو سکتا کیونکے اسکے پاس کھونے کو کچھ نہیں ہے
باس ، یہ لوگ پاکستان کے نظام میں حائل ہیں
عمران خان کے عزائم میں حائل ہیں

پناہ مانگتا ہوں شیطان مردود ، پاکستانی ججوں اور جرنلوں کے شر سے

Just for the record, Imran khan is gaining strength every passing day
Best reply with logic
Ghq iz underestimating khan strength his struggle and his faith on Almighty Allah
Wait and c if any unconstitutional action been taken against him his reaction will b thrashing He already knows agencies stole his 2/3 majority In his 22 year struggle our agencies couldnt find a single blame of corruption and irreguralities
Our agencies was already sleeping when zar and shar and generals took whole money out of the country and took pak into its knees
Allah will help khan inshaAllah he has strong belief on Allah more than anybody else He iz starting from scratch
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Anyone who is anti-army is most likely an Indian agent or a traitor. Why would any patriotic Pakistani spread anti army propaganda?
Please check the current location of all exArmy chiefs who are still alive except Gen Baig.
Even the 2nd level generals and tell us if any former PM do the same will u call him loyal to the country?
 

hammy_lucky

MPA (400+ posts)
Let me ask you an innocent question

there were three players, two of them got retired hurt.
Who will come on top?
Why a manager does not resign after 73 years of failed policies?

Yes, I agree that Imran Khan is being used.
Yes, I agree that GHQ may find any stooge.
Yes; I agree that the show will continue regardless.

Do you think that Imran Khan will run away from the country like a coward and not put up a fight?
I am a firm believer that Imran Khan is tactfully dealing with the ground realities.
We must not forget every satanic web has come to an end.
My long term prediction is

“Taliban will eventually take control of Pakistan since GHQ has paved way for them “
They will not fight by state rules. They are the ones who will set the rule of the game.

Therefore Imran Khan’s failure is going to be the failure of the entire system.
We are believers. We believe in efforts. You must understand that you need an opening to set up your own game plan.
پانی اپنا راستہ خود تلاش کرتی ہے
Let me remind that people used to Call Imran Khan

A cricketer – What a cricketer know about politics?
Imran Khan is a PM of Facebook
What Burgers party can do in Pakistani politics?
bla….bla….bla
Sorry to say but IK is a grandiose narcissist. If you research yourself then you will realise how successful these people can be. Agencies and their people are masters of manipulations. They also understand personalities and their behaviours better. Accordingly, they use people.
IK took a short cut by enrolling in their plans.
If you think the military’s interests and the people of Pakistan’s interests are parallel then good luck. It's hard for the military to rule directly now so they keep on finding ways to assert their rule through stooges. IK compromised too early. Can't you see the people around him??
If IK thought that he will change the system or get rid of those people than he is in a delusion himself.
It's a jihad required against the system.
No soft or easy solutions or results without a fight. IK has to prove himself and has to come out of his comfort zone. He can't make a fool out of people forever.
As for the people who think IK will put on a show then yes he might well but it will be only for himself. He will only blame politicians and will never have the balls to fight against those Generals mafia.
Also, do you think that agencies don't have weaknesses of IK?
For those people who admire IK for being honest and non-corrupt. IK only prefers the limelight. Money is not his desire. His sons are multibillionaires through their mother in the UK. A man mostly does corruption for his family. IK doesn't even need that. He only desires constant fame, success, attention. Let's see how much more he will sell his promises to innocent emotional people of Pakistan.
MashAllah our emotional people buy the “Religiosity” MANJAN the easiest and the most. IK has played it quite well so far.
 
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Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اگرچہ میں جنرل باجوہ کا حمایتی نہیں ہوں لیکن فوج کے سیاست دانوں کو کنٹرول کرنے کا حمایتی ضرور ہوں
کیونکہ سیاست دانوں پر اگر فوج پریشر نہ ڈالیں تو یہ لوگ تو پاکستان کو زندہ ہی نگل جایئں
یا پھر دوسرے الفاظ میں کینسر زدہ جمہوریت کو اس کے حال پر نہیں چھوڑا جا سکتا
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ہاں یہ ضرور ہے کہ آرمی جنرلز اگر پاکستان کی بجائے اپنے مفاد کو دیکھتے ہوئے اقدامات کریں تو برا ہے
حیران کن سوچ ہے آپکی
بھائی جان ، پاکستانی سیاست میں سب سے بڑے احمق اعظم یعنی نواز شریف کو لانے والے جنرلز ہیں
قومی رہزنوں کو این آر او صرف اور صرف پاکستان بری فوج کے آرمی چیفس دیتے رہے ہیں
فوج کے بڑے افسروں کی طرح ، سیاستدان بھی نیشنل کیک سے اپنا حصہ "حق " یا انویسٹمنٹ ریٹرن سمجھ کر وصول کرتے ہیں
جنرلوں کی لوٹ مار کی وجہ سے پاکستان میں احتساب نہیں ہوتا کیونکے سیاستدانوں اپنی انگلیاں
انکی طرف اٹھانا شروع کرتے ہیں تو انکی پتلون گیلی ہو جاتی ہے
کیا اپ نے نہیں دیکھا کے ایکسٹینشن حاصل کرنے کے لئے جنرل باجوہ نے کتنا بڑا جرم کیا ہے ؟
اپ کس دنیا میں رہتے ہیں ؟
یہ تمام پاکستانیوں کا المیہ ہے کے وہ نظام کے اصل مجرموں کو سمجھ نہیں پا رہے ہیں
 
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Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sorry to say but IK is a grandiose narcissist. If you research yourself then you will realise how successful these people can be. Agencies and their people are masters of manipulations. They also understand personalities and their behaviours better. Accordingly, they use people.
IK took a short cut by enrolling in their plans.
If you think the military’s interests and the people of Pakistan’s interests are parallel then good luck. It's hard for the military to rule directly now so they keep on finding ways to assert their rule through stooges. IK compromised too early. Can't you see the people around him??
If IK thought that he will change the system or get rid of those people than he is in a delusion himself.
It's a jihad required against the system.
No soft or easy solutions or results without a fight. IK has to prove himself and has to come out of his comfort zone. He can't make a fool out of people forever.
As for the people who think IK will put on a show then yes he might well but it will be only for himself. He will only blame politicians and will never have the balls to fight against those Generals mafia.
Also, do you think that agencies don't have weaknesses of IK?
For those people who admire IK for being honest and non-corrupt. IK only prefers the limelight. Money is not his desire. His sons are multibillionaires through their mother in the UK. A man mostly does corruption for his family. IK doesn't even need that. He only desires constant fame, success, attention. Let's see how much more he will sell his promises to innocent emotional people of Pakistan.
Let me understand
To whom do you support politically?