alibaba222
Minister (2k+ posts)
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طاہر ال قادری پاکستانی یے یا غیر ملکی ؟؟؟
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کی جاناں میں کون
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
in nolvion ney her dour main mulik aour qoum ka dhokha diya hey.
pata nahin inko marna kion yaad nahin.
pata nahin inko marna kion yaad nahin.
کی جاناں میں کون
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kiya is jalsey main, zaid hamid,and qazi sahib bhi taqreer karain gey?
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
پانی کا جانور تھا ،
?بلبل اسلام لاہور پہنچ گئی
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alibaba222
Minister (2k+ posts)
puri baat karain . mauvion nay fauj kay saath mil kar puri qaom ko dhoka dia hai
کی جاناں میں کون
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
نقشِ فریادی
MPA (400+ posts)
اس مولوی نے توہینِ رسالت کی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ثبوت اس کا یہ ہے کہ اس نے اپنی مشہور تقریر میں کہا ہے کہ "حضور پاک نے اسے خواب میں کہا تھا کہ اگر تم مجھے پاکستان میں ٹھہرانا چاہتے ہو تو میری میزبانی تم کرو گے"۔۔۔۔۔۔میں ایک مسلمان ہوں اور میرے عقیدے کے مطابق اس مولوی نے میرے آقا کی توہین کی ہے۔۔۔کیا میرے آقا ایسے تھے کہ اس جیسے دو ٹکے کے منافق سے کہتے کہ وہ ان کی میزبانی کرے؟ توہین اور کیا ہوتی ہے؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ ہے کوئی رسولِ پاک کا چاہنے والا جو بات کرے؟
Pure_pakistani
MPA (400+ posts)
qadri is not reliable
GreenMaple
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Yeh Fraudia, CIA/CSIS ka agent Canadian citizen hey.
patriot_purdesi
Senator (1k+ posts)
Moosa_ibn_Ali
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
ٹھگ نے ٹھگ کا ساتھ ہی دینا ہے
دونوں ٹھگ ہیں اور ڈرامے باز
دونوں کا تعلق مافیا سے ہے
ایک سیاسی مافیا ایک دینی مافیا
دونوں کے چیلے اندھے مقلد ہیں
دونوں کے اندھے مقلد صحیح کو غلط اور غلط کو صحیح ثابت کرنے
کے لئے زمین آسمان ایک کردیتے ہیں مگر مجال ہے اپنے پیر کو
غلط کہدیں
سوچ اور طریقہ واردات ایک ہے...شعبے الگ الگ
دونوں ٹھگ ہیں اور ڈرامے باز
دونوں کا تعلق مافیا سے ہے
ایک سیاسی مافیا ایک دینی مافیا
دونوں کے چیلے اندھے مقلد ہیں
دونوں کے اندھے مقلد صحیح کو غلط اور غلط کو صحیح ثابت کرنے
کے لئے زمین آسمان ایک کردیتے ہیں مگر مجال ہے اپنے پیر کو
غلط کہدیں
سوچ اور طریقہ واردات ایک ہے...شعبے الگ الگ
patriot_purdesi;1216 809 said:
Who Is Dr Tahir al -Qadri?
Past few days have unfolded the desperate attempts made by status quo mafia to derail the democratic process. TQ is the latest but may not be the last attempt. Although, the promise is for a 90days reform period through caretaker set up. However, in all likelihood this setup will last at least 2 yrs and possibly more than 5 yrs.
Like any movement, we have to find out the beneficiaries, and losers of this movement.
Winners
PPP: Martyrdom party. This movement will provide a golden opportunity to this party to become martyr one more time. All of their sins will be washed away by this martyrdom. They will always be able to claim that they were not allowed to complete their term. Yes, you and I know that only few weeks were left in their term. But you know how they manipulate the masses and media. Unfortunately, our populace is mostly illiterate and get easily fooled by slogans and gimmicks.
Also in all likelihood, nobody will probably pursue them for their plundered wealth as they may be supportive of this movement behind the scenes (yet another NRO).
PML-N: Noora kushti party. They have seen the writings on the wall. Yes, they may still be able to win plenty of seats. However, their ruling family days are numbered. PTI has given an alternative to the masses away from these dynastic parties. They have the choice of either saving the party or the family dynasty during this and next elections. The high possibility is that this election will be the beginning of the end for their family dictatorship in their party. It will give their next generation an upper hand if this democratic process is derailed prematurely. In addition, they may also get a clean chit with regards to their massive corruption (like PPP), and be allowed to get exiled back to jeddah with all their loot. Therefore, I will not be surprised if they decide to join hands with TQ at the very last minute as they always have done so in the past.
PML-Q & PPP: No comments as it is too obvious. However, you are allowed to add interesting comments if you like.
Army: The most obvious beneficiary. Flourishing democracy is not in their best interests. They will not be able to run big corporations and able to deal with foreign powers in return for brief cases filled with dollars. They also don't like to obey the orders of the inferior form life - also known as civilians.
Foreign powers: Pakistan has been a big thorn on their side since its inception. However, since the development of nuclear weapons, it has become even more indigestible for them. They love to deal with one or few persons rather than the whole nation. Viable pakistan and flourishing democracy is the last thing they want to see in this country.
Losers
PTI: Granted PTI may not be able to win a clear majority. However, they are now in a position to pose a serious threat to establishment and family parties. Even in opposition, they in all likelihood will play a big role in reforming the system. Their momentum will continue into next elections unless if the family parties reform themselves.
Judiciary: Very firs independent judiciary is one of the biggest obstacle on the side of establishment and status quo. This is the very first time that establishment is in cross-hairs of justice. However, caretaker setup will most likely will try their best to dismantle this independent institution.
They will eliminate this institution in a slow/gradual manner. Iftekhar choudhry will be retiring in about a year or so. They will try to make their own criteria for selecting new judges and you can guess what kind of judges they will choose.
Media: Media may be benefiting from all the attention from family parties, establishment, and foreign powers. However, despite it's shortcomings it has played an important role in political education and awareness which is a big threat to status quo mafia, and foreign powers. Therefore, they will try to muzzle it and media knows this. Therefore, media may become more vociferous against this movement in next few days.
Awam: Again this is too obvious and I will not further elaborate.
Past few days have unfolded the desperate attempts made by status quo mafia to derail the democratic process. TQ is the latest but may not be the last attempt. Although, the promise is for a 90days reform period through caretaker set up. However, in all likelihood this setup will last at least 2 yrs and possibly more than 5 yrs.
Like any movement, we have to find out the beneficiaries, and losers of this movement.
Winners
PPP: Martyrdom party. This movement will provide a golden opportunity to this party to become martyr one more time. All of their sins will be washed away by this martyrdom. They will always be able to claim that they were not allowed to complete their term. Yes, you and I know that only few weeks were left in their term. But you know how they manipulate the masses and media. Unfortunately, our populace is mostly illiterate and get easily fooled by slogans and gimmicks.
Also in all likelihood, nobody will probably pursue them for their plundered wealth as they may be supportive of this movement behind the scenes (yet another NRO).
PML-N: Noora kushti party. They have seen the writings on the wall. Yes, they may still be able to win plenty of seats. However, their ruling family days are numbered. PTI has given an alternative to the masses away from these dynastic parties. They have the choice of either saving the party or the family dynasty during this and next elections. The high possibility is that this election will be the beginning of the end for their family dictatorship in their party. It will give their next generation an upper hand if this democratic process is derailed prematurely. In addition, they may also get a clean chit with regards to their massive corruption (like PPP), and be allowed to get exiled back to jeddah with all their loot. Therefore, I will not be surprised if they decide to join hands with TQ at the very last minute as they always have done so in the past.
PML-Q & PPP: No comments as it is too obvious. However, you are allowed to add interesting comments if you like.
Army: The most obvious beneficiary. Flourishing democracy is not in their best interests. They will not be able to run big corporations and able to deal with foreign powers in return for brief cases filled with dollars. They also don't like to obey the orders of the inferior form life - also known as civilians.
Foreign powers: Pakistan has been a big thorn on their side since its inception. However, since the development of nuclear weapons, it has become even more indigestible for them. They love to deal with one or few persons rather than the whole nation. Viable pakistan and flourishing democracy is the last thing they want to see in this country.
Losers
PTI: Granted PTI may not be able to win a clear majority. However, they are now in a position to pose a serious threat to establishment and family parties. Even in opposition, they in all likelihood will play a big role in reforming the system. Their momentum will continue into next elections unless if the family parties reform themselves.
Judiciary: Very firs independent judiciary is one of the biggest obstacle on the side of establishment and status quo. This is the very first time that establishment is in cross-hairs of justice. However, caretaker setup will most likely will try their best to dismantle this independent institution.
They will eliminate this institution in a slow/gradual manner. Iftekhar choudhry will be retiring in about a year or so. They will try to make their own criteria for selecting new judges and you can guess what kind of judges they will choose.
Media: Media may be benefiting from all the attention from family parties, establishment, and foreign powers. However, despite it's shortcomings it has played an important role in political education and awareness which is a big threat to status quo mafia, and foreign powers. Therefore, they will try to muzzle it and media knows this. Therefore, media may become more vociferous against this movement in next few days.
Awam: Again this is too obvious and I will not further elaborate.
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sherkhan314
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.
Army should be in the losers. Media should be among the winners.
Rest is okay.
Army should be in the losers. Media should be among the winners.
Rest is okay.
