عمران خان اسٹیبلشمنٹ پر اعتماد کیوں نہیں کررہے؟معیدپیرزادہ کا تبصرہ
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Imjutt
MPA (400+ posts)
same goes for Nani also... ?
Is this possible PTI withdraw resignation from NA and place opposition leader to form TC set up if Showbaz agree to announce election in near future?I think resignations still not approved and send to EC..As PTI is the single majority party in NA.Without her consultations,Its useless to form TC set up.do the key appointments.key reforms..
Will_Bite
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Rotfl
jani1
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کیا اس قوم کو روکا جاسکتا ہے۔ وہ بھی کسی حرام خور دلے کے ہاتھوں۔
PTI should sit in NA and involve in TC set up in future..Agar EC loto ko deseat nahi karta tu SC.IHC ko action lena chahay..Bajwa and Anjum ko mulk ka sochna chahay na ke apni jhoti naak ka. Bajwa and Co choro.dakao. ghadaro ko support kartay hain. Is m ab kisi ko shak nahi..IK ko dewar se lagana intahae ghalat soch ha Bajwa and Co Gen ki.
This will be big mistake than regime change mistake..
This will be big mistake than regime change mistake..
Islamabadi1
Minister (2k+ posts)
Lets wake up the youthias.....the march FAILED because there was no 2 million awaam ka samundar....khawarr kiya becharey logon ko ....we got a chance to see the nayi Punjab police after 4 years of PTI Naya Pakistan police reforms promised in the manifesto in action...nobody wants anymore Police reforms/agriculture reforms/education reforms and you can keep all the task forces with you...your election result is gng to be no more than 40 seats....
PakistanFIRST1
Minister (2k+ posts)
all efforts are fucked up till now from 27-March .
Not sure what will happen in future.
People and supporter are disgruntled.
Not sure what will happen in future.
People and supporter are disgruntled.
arifkarim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
PATWARI Haramkhor
Aik tu raat ko 11 Bajay tuk hi nahi banti. Kia emergency lagwanay ja raha tha k 11 bajay speech ki.Upper se dar k maray sar nahi hala raha tha k kaheen samnay likhi line na miss ho jaya.Oya Bajwa tera bera gharaq ho..tu ne kia namonay hamaray uper musallat kar dia??
It's all rubbish that Establishment had any issue with Economy. We would agreed to this stance only had they brought some intelligent and honest brains in the govt but they helped bringing those thieves and corrupt people who had destroyed the country many times in the past.
And all economic indicators were positive shown by all the quarters shown as 6% growth. So the main issue was establishment own corruption and American slavery.
Truth matters
MPA (400+ posts)
I feel bad for the patwaris that follow her
tahirmajid
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Kuch faisley mulki mafaad mein bhi karney hongey. Russia se oil and Gas laina parey ga warna mulk or economy tabah ho jay gi. Imran Khan ki direction bilkul theek thi, abhi jub Rs 30 Petrol price barhein gi to log khud ba khud roads pe hongey, India mein petrol price kum honey kay baad cooking oil ki or dosri items ki price kum honey lagi hain. Establishment and politcal elite kay misadventure ki price awaam kion ada karey???
tahirmajid
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Election karwao, jin ko log elect karein un ko hakomat karney do, sazish kay zariey mstrid logo ko sar pe na bithao, Establishment siysat mein apni taang na atkaey
This article reflects the typical mentality of the Jang & Dawn group. These people always used this rhetoric IK failed without referring to data & numbers. Educated people knew and understood macroeconomic indicators like export growth, GDP growth, increase in remittances, growth in the LSM sector and growth in the IT sector were moving in a positive direction. But these pseudo-intellectuals & media groups never talked with reference to numbers and analysis because they work, speak and write on the basis of pay and go. The fact is Military generals are addicted to absolute power & not willing to share power with the Civil administration. First, they direct or force the political leadership to include some unscrupulous selectable in their parties and later use those stooges to destabilize the governments. They also recommend saleable materials for some key appointments and later use them. The same happened with the IK govt. Bajwa & the company colluded with the media to spread rumours of poor performance and bad economy without conducting data analysis and brainstorming the pros & cons of different options on the media. They glued all political parties for VONC but used media in spreading this narrative that the establishment would no more support the IK govt. Actually, the establishment designed this plot because they wanted to throw out the IK govt. There is also a rumour that a few generals struck a deal with the Sharif mafia. and allegedly received a due share. We always thought and defended the military as a savour but in fact, the military is the root cause of all problems in Pakistan. Because of the military, there is no rule of law as judges, civil bureaucracy and media act as their puppets. Because of the military, educated and brainy people are trying their bests to flee the country. But these dumb military generals consider themselves Plato & Aristotle and treat civilians as stupid and slaves. But the fact is that educated and skilled people are key ingredients in cultivating a civilized and developed country. We always dreamed of a prosperous, civilized, clean and sustainable Pakistan where rule of law, equality of opportunities, social justice and genuine care for people would key values. But, alas, it seems we will not be able to see these values in our country in our lives. And, I would blame the Pakistani army for making Pakistan a failed state.Situationer: How Imran’s march came to an abrupt end
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan’s surprise decision about not going ahead with the sit-in at the end of the long march left almost everyone baffled — foes and allies alike — but there is convergence on one thing — the manner in which it all ended, at least for now, carried clear indications of who made it happen.
The general perception, though most shy away from saying that openly, is that the military had to ultimately play its role to prevent things from getting out of control.
Former National Security Adviser retired Lt Gen Naeem Khalid Lodhi candidly admits that he too agrees with this. “There is a strong possibility of positive interference by the military to prevent chaos and seek a return of semblance of political stability so that the process for resuscitating the economy could begin.”
Another retired general, on the condition of anonymity, said there was a realisation in the top brass that no one at the helm of affairs would be able to escape responsibility if matters were to go in a wrong direction.
The biggest challenge for the military, a source claimed, was to open up communication channels with Mr Khan, especially in view of their frayed relations. But, as the former prime minister proceeded with the long march plans, a sense of urgency was felt everywhere and multiple channels were employed to bring him around.
The source said those who acted as a go-between included a former chief justice, a leading businessman, and a retired general.
“It was not an easy task given Imran Khan’s obstinacy and the fact that he had invested a lot of effort into it,” the source privy to the negotiations said.
Though the source did not share the chronology of the negotiations, it appeared from the discussion that they continued late into Wednesday night and probably into the early hours of Thursday.
Mr Khan agreed to go back, without staging the planned sit-in, on the assurance that the date for the dissolution of the assemblies and elections would be given in June. He too in his speech, in which he announced the end of the long march, had said: “I’m giving you six days. Announce elections within six days, announce elections in the month of June …”
The former prime minister was also asked to consider the return of PTI to the National Assembly by withdrawing the resignations of his party’s legislators so that it could be part of the consultations on the interim setup — as per the Constitution — under whose watch next elections will be held.
The PTI chief, it is said, held on to the opportunity seeing that he was not able to pull out the numbers that he had expected, especially from Punjab — the government’s crackdown notwithstanding.
As of Thursday night, apprehensions were growing that the government may back off from the deal.
The neutrality conundrum
Fissures between the former PTI government and the military had begun late last year after the latter decided to end all support that it had been extending to the former. The decision in this regard was taken because of Mr Khan’s government’s persistent failure for which the military leadership had to bear the then opposition’s criticism.
The then opposition would point fingers at ‘selectors’ — a euphemism used by them to blame the military for helping PTI form the government.
“It was decided that the military would no more play a role in the political affairs,” a source said, adding that the PTI government that had become too dependent couldn’t survive as expected. “The edifice came down in no time,” he recalled.
This withdrawal of support was, however, misconstrued by Mr Khan as military siding with his opponents. That’s how “neutrals” began to feature in the former prime minister’s political statements. His view was that he was righteous and the rest were evil and hence the military should continue supporting him.
Lt Gen Faiz Hamid’s transfer and the appointment of Lt Gen Nadeem Anjum as the ISI chief — which many believe caused the eventual breakup — a political source, who had watched the episode from close quarters, said was actually a consequence of the military’s decision to distance itself from political affairs.
People had begun talking about Mr Khan’s split with the military in hushed tones since the last quarter of 2021, but came into the spotlight when the PDM’s no-confidence move got into top gear in March.
PTI’s reach out to PPP
A source said the former prime minister, despite desertions from his ranks, initially looked confident about defeating the no-confidence motion because he was expecting a deal with Pakistan Peoples Party, with whom his government had opened a secret channel.
A PPP source privately confirmed the contact, but said it did not work because the party had gone too far with the no-confidence move. “It was difficult to back off and additionally the trust deficit was massive,” the PPP source maintained.
It was at this point that US conspiracy narrative was unveiled at a rally in Islamabad on March 27 and kept evolving with references to Mir Jafar’s and Mir Sadiq’s being subsequently inserted into it.
Published in Dawn, May 28th, 2022
https://www.dawn.com/news/1691864
