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Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
How can it be possible that the USA demolished the Towers and AlQaida took the credit of killing 4000 people? Unless AlQaida worked for CIA ? Or AlQaida ploted bombs in the Towers too. Or CIA knew AlQaida planning and they plotted bombs in the tower so when the Hijack planes hit the tower they collapse. I am not ignoring scientific facts but you are ignoring AlQaidas admission of the attacks. Just today Zawhwari released another video admitting everything. Read the DAWN paper. How can such videos be ignored..
What was root cause of Twin Tower and 47 storey building failure?
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
How can it be possible that the USA demolished the Towers and AlQaida took the credit of killing 4000 people? Unless AlQaida worked for CIA ? Or AlQaida ploted bombs in the Towers too. Or CIA knew AlQaida planning and they plotted bombs in the tower so when the Hijack planes hit the tower they collapse. I am not ignoring scientific facts but you are ignoring AlQaidas admission of the attacks. Just today Zawhwari released another video admitting everything. Read the DAWN paper. How can such videos be ignored..
Have u seen movie "Saving Private Ryan"? There's is a scene where hero is firing on tank with pistol and tank exploded? Was tank exploded with bullet or bomb dropped by aircraft?
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اس بندے کا ریکارڈ ہے کہ اس نے آج تک ایسا کوئی قصہ بیان نہیں کیا جس میں اس حاسد میر جعفر نے اپنے آپ کو سیلف پروجیکٹ کرکے اپنے آ پ کو بہت اہم ثابت نہ کیا ہو جیسا پورے پاکستان میں یہئ ایک بہت اہمٗ صحافی ئے اور باقی سارے الو کے پٹھے ہیں
اور پھر مزے کی بات یہ بھی ہے کہ کسی زندہ بندے کے بارے میں ایسا کبھی دعوئی نہیں کیا کہ کبھی جھٹلایا نہ جا سکے اس حاسد میر جعفر کو پاکستان کا بچہ بچہ جان چکا ہے کہ اس کی ہر بات میں دس فیصد یا اس سے کم سچ ہوتا ہے اور باقی سب جھوٹ
اوہ پلیز کیا آپ بتا سکتے ہو اسکی بات کا کونسا دس فیصد حصہ سچ ہوتا ہے
یا فر نوے فیصد حصہ بتا دیں جو جھوٹ ہوتا ہے تو باقی سچ ہم خود ڈھونڈ لیں گے.. 🤣
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Have u seen movie "Saving Private Ryan"? There's is a scene where hero is firing on tank with pistol and tank exploded? Was tank exploded with bullet or bomb dropped by aircraft?
Nothing was exploded man?…It was only a movie ……Ab is mien kia 🤣
 

amber123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بیس برس بعد یاد آیا کہ ۹/۱۱ میں جہاز اسامہ کے ہمدردوں نے اڑا کر ٹاورز گرا دئیے ۔ اس سے قبل منہ میں دہی رکھ کر بیٹھا ہوا تھا اور اس کو مطلع کر کے گرائے تھے کمال ہے یہ سب معلومات کے بعد پیٹ میں گولیوں کے ساتھ ساتھ ۹/۱۱ کے راز بھی دبائے بیٹھا رہا
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You are wrong and, I will prove it to you that Usama Bin Laden was responsible for the events of the September 11 disaster.

Usama Bin Laden was murdered almost 10 years after the September 11 incident. In those 10 years, he released many videos.

1) DID USAMA BIN LEVER EVER SAY IN ANY OF THE VIDEOS THAT HE HAS BEEN FRAMED FOR THE MURDER OF 4000 PEOPLE? DID HE SAY THAT HE WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SEPTEMBER 11?

If you are wrongly accused of murder, would you not tell the world that you are innocent? Or would you stay quiet on that matter? Remember Silence gives consent.

2) After Usama bin Laden Al-Zawahiri took over the leadership of Al-Qaida.


Not only he admitted September 11 was Al-Qaida's work, he appreciated Usama for doing so in the following video. Watch this video. This video should close the chapter, who caused September 11.



Lastly, whenever big disasters happen, there are always conspiracy theories, But unless there is proof, don't believe in them.

* * * Why do we believe in conspiracy theories? * * *

My next video is about Kennedy's assassination. When he was assassinated, there was an Umbralle man, It was believed by some people that he shot the fire, See this video until the end and you will understand why people believe in conspiracy theories.




Have no idea for what and why you want to prove anything in this case.
There is NO PROOF that Osama was involved in 9/11 till today.
He denied knowing about the attack before it happened. He issue such statement and told so to Taliban. Taliban till today have asked for the proof and told what Osama told them..
Osama PRAISED the attack in a video talking to gusts from Saudi after the incident, - even authenticity of that video was questioned because that seems edited and has been contested on the basis of the contents of his talk+sermon.. (His first published statement after the incident was to condemn the loss of life of innocents.)

US has given no proof of his involvement nor they have legally made such claim or have claimed that they have a proof but somehow you have a proof.!

ALL US allegations against Osama have been either political statements for public or convoluted conclusions/analysis in their reports or wild discussions about Osama's sermon after the incident..(Don't forget Osama was accused in public at 1120 on 9/11 2 hours after the incident - Israeli PM Barrak who made this accusation was in TV studios half hour before his interview!!!, decision to attack Afg was made the next day, and US officially alleged Osama on the third day) Osama was never charged for this crime in the courts. No proof is ever been presented in the last 20 years to any government. . During the trials for Torture allegations in USSC rather US told that torture was needed and be allowed to extract such proofs.
During the trials of Khalid Sheikh, Mosavi and others no such charge was made or included - nor the accused accepted it during the trial. . It was in spite of all sort of torture on detainees. especially Khalid Sheikh. This is evident from the proceeds of public trials of Khalid and Mosavi. Even during sentencing after conviction , they didn't charge Osama - simply because there was NO legal evidence of direct involvement of Al Qaeda either - except for an evidence that Khalid sheikh had met a person who was in al-Qaeda or that person had met Osama along with other al Qaeda members years before the incident. there was no trial or testimony of that person who was used to link Khalid sheikh with al Qaeda. Al least US could present money trail to establish such links!!!
When pressed, US had released a video of Osama in 2003 or 2004 but that was rejected as fake and edited. However, after Khalid sheikh was in prison, an interview was released from prison that Khalid Sheikh has accepted involvement of Al-Qaeda - but If US has such proof, they may bring Khalid sheikhs testimony in the court.. Khalid sheikh's background has many stories/actors in which neither we on this forum or US government will indulge
This issue has been discussed for years by all those who know every detail of the case, and responses of US apologists are well known. YOUR PROOF is not needed at all however
I still don't understand what is your interest to prove involvement of Osama!!
 
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Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What is mean by pulled?
To pull a building down means bringing it down by a controlled demolition.
WTC building 7 did not fall on its own because of fire but was brought down by its owner Larry Silverstein who is on record admitting that he ordered it to be pulled down…..Google it to find more on this.
BTW I heard him say that myself.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
To pull a building down means bringing it down by a controlled demolition.
WTC building 7 did not fall on its own because of fire but was brought down by its owner Larry Silverstein who is on record admitting that he ordered it to be pulled down…..Google it to find more on this.
BTW I heard him say that myself.
Now question is can a controlled demo done in a day or so?
Also can an owner make decision of demo at his own?
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Now question is can a controlled demo done in a day or so?
Also can an owner make decision of demo at his own?
Obviously the answer to both of you Qs is yes. Larry admitted on TV to ask them to pull it as it was dangerous to let it stand like that….He did make the decision and later got paid by the insurance co which means he was entitled to make that decision.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Have no idea for what and why you want to prove anything in this case.
There is NO PROOF that Osama was involved in 9/11 till today.
He denied knowing about the attack before it happened. He issue such statement and told so to Taliban. Taliban till today have asked for the proof and told what Osama told them..
Osama PRAISED the attack in a video talking to gusts from Saudi after the incident, - even authenticity of that video because that seems edited and has been contested on the basis of talk/sermon by Osama.

US has given no proof of his involvement nor they have legally made such claim or have claimed that they have a proof but somehow you have a proof.!

ALL US allegations against Osama have been either political statements for public or convoluted conclusions/analysis in their reports or wild discussions about Osama's sermon after the incident..(Don't forget Osama was accused in public at 1120 on 9/11 2 hours after the incident - Israeli PM Barrak who made this accusation was in TV studios half hour before his interview!!!, decision to attack Afg was made the next day, and US officially alleged Osama on the third day) Osama was never charged for this crime in the courts. No proof is ever been presented in the last 20 years to any government. . During the trials for Torture allegations in USSC rather US told that torture was needed and be allowed to extract such proofs.
During the trials of Khalid Sheikh, Mosavi and others no such charge was made or included - nor the accused accepted it during the trial. . It was in spite of all sort of torture on detainees. especially Khalid Sheikh. This is evident from the proceeds of public trials of Khalid and Mosavi. Even during sentencing after conviction , they didn't charge Osama - simply because there was n Further there is NO Proof of direct involvement of Al Qaeda either - except for an evidence that Khalid sheikh had met a person who was in al-Qaeda or that person had met Osama along with al Qaeda members Years ago of the incident. there is no trial r testimony of the person who was used to link Khalid sheikh with al Qaeda. Al least US could present money trail to establish such links!!!
When pressed US had released a video of Osama in 2003 or 2004 but that was rejected as fake and edited. Further after Khalid sheikh was in prison, an interview was released from prison that Khalid Sheikh has accepted involvement of Al-Qaeda - but If US has such proof, they may bring Khalid sheikhs testimony in the court.. Khalid sheikh's background has many stories/actors in which neither we on this forum or US government will indulge
This issue has been discussed for years by all those who know every detail of the case, and responses of US apologists. YOUR PROOF is not needed at all however
I still don't understand what is your interest to prove involvement of Osama!!
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Have no idea for what and why you want to prove anything in this case.
There is NO PROOF that Osama was involved in 9/11 till today.
He denied knowing about the attack before it happened. He issue such statement and told so to Taliban. Taliban till today have asked for the proof and told what Osama told them..
Osama PRAISED the attack in a video talking to gusts from Saudi after the incident, - even authenticity of that video because that seems edited and has been contested on the basis of talk/sermon by Osama.

US has given no proof of his involvement nor they have legally made such claim or have claimed that they have a proof but somehow you have a proof.!

ALL US allegations against Osama have been either political statements for public or convoluted conclusions/analysis in their reports or wild discussions about Osama's sermon after the incident..(Don't forget Osama was accused in public at 1120 on 9/11 2 hours after the incident - Israeli PM Barrak who made this accusation was in TV studios half hour before his interview!!!, decision to attack Afg was made the next day, and US officially alleged Osama on the third day) Osama was never charged for this crime in the courts. No proof is ever been presented in the last 20 years to any government. . During the trials for Torture allegations in USSC rather US told that torture was needed and be allowed to extract such proofs.
During the trials of Khalid Sheikh, Mosavi and others no such charge was made or included - nor the accused accepted it during the trial. . It was in spite of all sort of torture on detainees. especially Khalid Sheikh. This is evident from the proceeds of public trials of Khalid and Mosavi. Even during sentencing after conviction , they didn't charge Osama - simply because there was n Further there is NO Proof of direct involvement of Al Qaeda either - except for an evidence that Khalid sheikh had met a person who was in al-Qaeda or that person had met Osama along with al Qaeda members Years ago of the incident. there is no trial r testimony of the person who was used to link Khalid sheikh with al Qaeda. Al least US could present money trail to establish such links!!!
When pressed US had released a video of Osama in 2003 or 2004 but that was rejected as fake and edited. Further after Khalid sheikh was in prison, an interview was released from prison that Khalid Sheikh has accepted involvement of Al-Qaeda - but If US has such proof, they may bring Khalid sheikhs testimony in the court.. Khalid sheikh's background has many stories/actors in which neither we on this forum or US government will indulge
This issue has been discussed for years by all those who know every detail of the case, and responses of US apologists. YOUR PROOF is not needed at all however
I still don't understand what is your interest to prove involvement of Osama!!
just one question, one question to you. . .

Thousands of people died in Afghanistan, Iraq in the retaliation attack of the USA of 9/11. Because USA believed Usma did September 11.
BUT
Why didn't Usama say " I DID NOT DO SEPTEMBER 11 "

Why didn't Usama say America is lying.

Usama lived for 10 years after 9/11. He released a number of videos
BUT
Why he never said, 9/11 is internal USA work.

Why didn't he say he was framed and He was innocent.


Why do people on social media had to prove his innocence but not him?

I repeat my question
Why didn't Usama say " I DID NOT DO SEPTEMBER 11 "

If he ever has then send me the link to the video.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Have no idea for what and why you want to prove anything in this case.
There is NO PROOF that Osama was involved in 9/11 till today.
He denied knowing about the attack before it happened. He issue such statement and told so to Taliban. Taliban till today have asked for the proof and told what Osama told them..
Osama PRAISED the attack in a video talking to gusts from Saudi after the incident, - even authenticity of that video was questioned because that seems edited and has been contested on the basis of the contents of his talk+sermon.. (His first published statement after the incident was to condemn the loss of life of innocents.)

US has given no proof of his involvement nor they have legally made such claim or have claimed that they have a proof but somehow you have a proof.!

ALL US allegations against Osama have been either political statements for public or convoluted conclusions/analysis in their reports or wild discussions about Osama's sermon after the incident..(Don't forget Osama was accused in public at 1120 on 9/11 2 hours after the incident - Israeli PM Barrak who made this accusation was in TV studios half hour before his interview!!!, decision to attack Afg was made the next day, and US officially alleged Osama on the third day) Osama was never charged for this crime in the courts. No proof is ever been presented in the last 20 years to any government. . During the trials for Torture allegations in USSC rather US told that torture was needed and be allowed to extract such proofs.
During the trials of Khalid Sheikh, Mosavi and others no such charge was made or included - nor the accused accepted it during the trial. . It was in spite of all sort of torture on detainees. especially Khalid Sheikh. This is evident from the proceeds of public trials of Khalid and Mosavi. Even during sentencing after conviction , they didn't charge Osama - simply because there was NO legal evidence of direct involvement of Al Qaeda either - except for an evidence that Khalid sheikh had met a person who was in al-Qaeda or that person had met Osama along with other al Qaeda members years before the incident. there was no trial or testimony of that person who was used to link Khalid sheikh with al Qaeda. Al least US could present money trail to establish such links!!!
When pressed, US had released a video of Osama in 2003 or 2004 but that was rejected as fake and edited. However, after Khalid sheikh was in prison, an interview was released from prison that Khalid Sheikh has accepted involvement of Al-Qaeda - but If US has such proof, they may bring Khalid sheikhs testimony in the court.. Khalid sheikh's background has many stories/actors in which neither we on this forum or US government will indulge
This issue has been discussed for years by all those who know every detail of the case, and responses of US apologists are well known. YOUR PROOF is not needed at all however
I still don't understand what is your interest to prove involvement of Osama!!

While I am waiting for an Usama video from you where he claimed that he was innocent and September 11 is not his work,
I have a video for you
Watch this video released in October 2001. Here Usama praised the Muslim men who destroyed the Towers. This video has an Aljazeera logo. To see the translation of Arabic, watch the video on YouTube and see the translation under the video.


 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Obviously the answer to both of you Qs is yes. Larry admitted on TV to ask them to pull it as it was dangerous to let it stand like that….He did make the decision and later got paid by the insurance co which means he was entitled to make that decision.
Sir first of all even this was not admitted in the investigation report that building 3 was a controlled demo.
Also owner needs a demolition permit from city and yes it can be issued same day if all requirements met.
For a high-rises a controlled demo is required demo and can't be done in a day.
World trade center buildings were a steel structure s and no fire can brought them down.
Not a single steel structure building collapsed due to fire in history of mankind despite were on fire for days except WTC buildings.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sir first of all even this was not admitted in the investigation report that building 3 was a controlled demo.
Also owner needs a demolition permit from city and yes it can be issued same day if all requirements met.
For a high-rises a controlled demo is required demo and can't be done in a day.
World trade center buildings were a steel structure s and no fire can brought them down.
Not a single steel structure building collapsed due to fire in history of mankind despite were on fire for days except WTC buildings.
Hahaha…Yes I agree with you that any steel structure building could not be collapsed due to fire and if they did collapse then obviously they were pulled down by other means and building 3 for sure was brought down by a controlled demolition as admitted by the owner ……You can keep beating around the bush but as far as I am concerned, the story ends here. 😃
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Hahaha…Yes I agree with you that any steel structure building could not be collapsed due to fire and if they did collapse then obviously they were pulled down by other means and building 3 for sure was brought down by a controlled demolition as admitted by the owner ……You can keep beating around the bush but as far as I am concerned, the story ends here. 😃
My only point is that if building 3 was a controlled demo it required weeks if not month to prepare for demo. It can't be done in a day.
Hence this whole accident was carefully planned and blamed people living in caves. There are so many flaws in the story and we still believing in it as this is called power of media.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
My only point is that if building 3 was a controlled demo it required weeks if not month to prepare for demo. It can't be done in a day.
Hence this whole accident was carefully planned and blamed people living in caves. There are so many flaws in the story and we still believing in it as this is called power of media.
So may be this whole thing was pre-planned for months if not years, who knows?
 
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