Current situation is in favor of PTI

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Minister (2k+ posts)
We aren't realizing, the best thing happened is the creation of PDM. There are multiple benefits Pakistanis will reap from this unnatural alliance:


1 - PPP that was dead in Punjab will revive at the expense of PMLN vote bank. We all know that the remaining vote bank of PMLN is basically IK/ Army hater.. but at the same time, this vote bank is tharki too. Maryam was a cosmetically engineered pretty face that was leading the PMLN supporters, now they have found another one to follow.. PPP may take the rightful tharki share away from PMLN.

2 - I personally know some JUI-F supporters, who have been taught since their childhoods that a woman can't be a leader. Fazlu accepting the women and then sitting like getting sandwiched between two women have really angered them. One of them has clearly said that Fazlu may lose those seats where his party still won in 2018.

3 - The ideological workers of PPP and PMLN.. who have grown up hating each other may abstain from voting in the next election. They are literally confused seeing leaders of ideological enemies sharing single stage. For example, a PMLN ideological supporter still can't fathom "AAJ BHI BHUTTO ZINDA HAI, KAL BHI BHUTTO ZINDA THA" slogans. In their hate, they may not join PTI, but they may surely abstain.

4 - PTI support.. even if it's not gaining in the current inflation times, those who have voted are not going anywhere.

5 - Establishment.. every passing day is reminding them about their wrongdoings when they brought PMLN into power in 2013... almost 100% of Brig and above ranks consider PMLN as security risk.. Even if we believe that PMLN has a 0.00001% chance of winning next elections, something will be done to save the country from another catastrophe.

Please do share your opinion too.. I would like to read about what others think..
 
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zzzindagi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Strongly agree with your analysis.
Also, if IK manages to control the inflation and people start to believe that this government indeed has controlled the rising prices then there will be a 0% chance for PMLN in the next election.
 

Jawad66

MPA (400+ posts)
The way PM is deriving the car recklessly,it has to crash but no one knows when.Army Generals safety measures will not be enough to save crash.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The way PM is deriving the car recklessly,it has to crash but no one knows when.Army Generals safety measures will not be enough to save crash.
In your opinion who should be replaced by PMIK? And more importantly how?
 

Ratan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We aren't realizing, the best thing happened is the creation of PDM. There are multiple benefits Pakistanis will reap from this unnatural alliance:


1 - PPP that was dead in Punjab will revive at the expense of PMLN vote bank. We all know that the remaining vote bank of PMLN is basically IK/ Army hater.. but at the same time, this vote bank is tharki too. Maryam was a cosmetically engineered pretty face that was leading the PMLN supporters, now they have found another one to follow.. PPP may take the rightful tharki share away from PMLN.

2 - I personally know some JUI-F supporters, who have been taught since their childhoods that a woman can't be a leader. Fazlu accepting the women and then sitting like getting sandwiched between two women have really angered them. One of them has clearly said that Fazlu may lose those seats where his party still won in 2018.

3 - The ideological workers of PPP and PMLN.. who have grown up hating each other may abstain from voting in the next election. They are literally confused seeing leaders of ideological enemies sharing single stage. For example, a PMLN ideological supporter still can't fathom "AAJ BHI BHUTTO ZINDA HAI, KAL BHI BHUTTO ZINDA THA" slogans. In their hate, they may not join PTI, but they may surely abstain.

4 - PTI support.. even if it's not gaining in the current inflation times, those who have voted are not going anywhere.

5 - Establishment.. every passing day is reminding them about their wrongdoings when they brought PMLN into power in 2013... almost 100% of Brig and above ranks consider PMLN as security risk.. Even if we believe that PMLN has a 0.00001% chance of winning next elections, something will be done to save the country from another catastrophe.

Please do share your opinion too.. I would like to read about what others think..
Excellent analysis, in fact million times better than our Lifafa anchors. Fully agreed with you.
 

Ratan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Strongly agree with your analysis.
Also, if IK manages to control the inflation and people start to believe that this government indeed has controlled the rising prices then there will be a 0% chance for PMLN in the next election.
Inflation is a side effect of IMF's reform programme. It is not that Govt intentionally is not controlling it. It can not be controlled overnight. Reform has to take its own course.
Look at the the exchange rate of US $, it is naturally stabilizing, same with Stock market which is also breaking records with normal course. With textile & construction, job opportunities are increasing.
In my opinion within a year inflation will be totally under control.
And by than local body election will be finished & development work would be at its peak. CPEC investment will be pouring in & by 2023 PTI will get two third majority....Inshallah.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Army should take its support back and fair and free elections r the only solution.
Lets assume if IK won even more seats then should we keep conducting elections until someone else won but will you accept that someone else? Isn't good if you could provide exact name of the person you want to run this country and we can handover government to him. We can dissolve all armed forces and let this person run the country via Punjab/Sindh Police?
 
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HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
The way PM is deriving the car recklessly,it has to crash but no one knows when.Army Generals safety measures will not be enough to save crash.
When a plane is stalled, pilots have to nose dive to gain speed and then once the required speed is attained, the plane is saved from getting crashed. Passengers who have no knowledge of this procedure think that pilot himself is on a crash course. Only those who know flying can understand the situation better.

If the pilots don't nose dive in a stall situation, there's a near 100% chance of crashing.

What you are experiencing here is a nose dive. It's a correction course that enabled the currency rate to auto adjust by moving freely, and giving your industrial engines some respite in the form of subsidies.. which means low revenue by government, but in the long run, it's not the revenue that will save the country, it's the industries that will provide power to lift the economic plane up.

Sorry, since you brought cars and crashes into discussion, I had to bring jets to explain my point.
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If elections happened today, PTI will lose a lot of voters which will shift to the MLN. Not everyone is so badly bitten by politics as you and me. A lot of people had many hopes but the outcome until now is that things have gone south instead of going north. Inflation has taken about half of people's income away and there are no jobs at all. All PTI spokesmen and Imran Khan himself have miserably failed to tell people the real reasons behind the slow down and inflation.
 

HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
If elections happened today, PTI will lose a lot of voters which will shift to the MLN. Not everyone is so badly bitten by politics as you and me. A lot of people had many hopes but the outcome until now is that things have gone south instead of going north. Inflation has taken about half of people's income away and there are no jobs at all. All PTI spokesmen and Imran Khan himself have miserably failed to tell people the real reasons behind the slow down and inflation.
I don't think PTI supporter will vote for anyone else.

Slowly and gradually, people are understanding the causes.. One of the reasons I didn't mention in OP why I said PDM is the best thing happened, that they are shooting themselves in the foot by making foolish statements against Pakistan Army.. other reasons have been listed.

Before PDM, if anyone had asked my opinion, I would have said yes, PTI may lose. But not after the creation of PDM.

I would love PDM to continue for a few months..

They have lost GB miserably.. they are right on course to lose AJK elections too.
 

Ratan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If elections happened today, PTI will lose a lot of voters which will shift to the MLN. Not everyone is so badly bitten by politics as you and me. A lot of people had many hopes but the outcome until now is that things have gone south instead of going north. Inflation has taken about half of people's income away and there are no jobs at all. All PTI spokesmen and Imran Khan himself have miserably failed to tell people the real reasons behind the slow down and inflation.
Funny...tell me is PMLN & PPP are better option compare to PTI?
Did not people saw them for last 30 years. How do you think people will bring back Nawaz & Zardari Daughter & Son to rule Pakistan????
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If elections happened today, PTI will lose a lot of voters which will shift to the MLN. Not everyone is so badly bitten by politics as you and me. A lot of people had many hopes but the outcome until now is that things have gone south instead of going north. Inflation has taken about half of people's income away and there are no jobs at all. All PTI spokesmen and Imran Khan himself have miserably failed to tell people the real reasons behind the slow down and inflation.
Everyone in Pakistan is very well aware of the Dakus of Pakistan. Only one that can defeat Imran Khan is Allah. Everyone else is just a Daily forgotten irritating memory
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Lets assume if IK won even more seats then should we keep conduction elections until someone else won but will you accept that someone else? Isn't good if you could provide exact name of the person you want to run this country and we can handover government to him. We can dissolve all armed forces and let this person run the country via Punjab/Sindh Police?


یہی تو مولانا کہتا ہے کہ اگر اگلی مرتبہ الیکشنز میں بھی عمران جیتا ہے ہم تب بھی نہیں مانے نگے (جبتک ہم نہ جیتے). اسلئے انہیں جمہوریت یا فوج یا یہودیوں کا مسلہ نہیں بس یہ چور کے بچے اقتدار میں ہونے چاہیے اور یہی انکے عقل سے پیدل پیروکار بھی چاہتے ہیں۔
 

pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
ek patwari se aur kis jawab ki tawaquh ki jaa sukti hai ... Son keep up r@ndi rona ... ab to tumhari qismat yehi likha hai. choron ke defender.
The way PM is deriving the car recklessly,it has to crash but no one knows when.Army Generals safety measures will not be enough to save crash.
 

knownunknown

MPA (400+ posts)
We aren't realizing, the best thing happened is the creation of PDM. There are multiple benefits Pakistanis will reap from this unnatural alliance:


1 - PPP that was dead in Punjab will revive at the expense of PMLN vote bank. We all know that the remaining vote bank of PMLN is basically IK/ Army hater.. but at the same time, this vote bank is tharki too. Maryam was a cosmetically engineered pretty face that was leading the PMLN supporters, now they have found another one to follow.. PPP may take the rightful tharki share away from PMLN.

2 - I personally know some JUI-F supporters, who have been taught since their childhoods that a woman can't be a leader. Fazlu accepting the women and then sitting like getting sandwiched between two women have really angered them. One of them has clearly said that Fazlu may lose those seats where his party still won in 2018.

3 - The ideological workers of PPP and PMLN.. who have grown up hating each other may abstain from voting in the next election. They are literally confused seeing leaders of ideological enemies sharing single stage. For example, a PMLN ideological supporter still can't fathom "AAJ BHI BHUTTO ZINDA HAI, KAL BHI BHUTTO ZINDA THA" slogans. In their hate, they may not join PTI, but they may surely abstain.

4 - PTI support.. even if it's not gaining in the current inflation times, those who have voted are not going anywhere.

5 - Establishment.. every passing day is reminding them about their wrongdoings when they brought PMLN into power in 2013... almost 100% of Brig and above ranks consider PMLN as security risk.. Even if we believe that PMLN has a 0.00001% chance of winning next elections, something will be done to save the country from another catastrophe.

Please do share your opinion too.. I would like to read about what others think..
Agreed!
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We aren't realizing, the best thing happened is the creation of PDM. There are multiple benefits Pakistanis will reap from this unnatural alliance:


1 - PPP that was dead in Punjab will revive at the expense of PMLN vote bank. We all know that the remaining vote bank of PMLN is basically IK/ Army hater.. but at the same time, this vote bank is tharki too. Maryam was a cosmetically engineered pretty face that was leading the PMLN supporters, now they have found another one to follow.. PPP may take the rightful tharki share away from PMLN.

2 - I personally know some JUI-F supporters, who have been taught since their childhoods that a woman can't be a leader. Fazlu accepting the women and then sitting like getting sandwiched between two women have really angered them. One of them has clearly said that Fazlu may lose those seats where his party still won in 2018.

3 - The ideological workers of PPP and PMLN.. who have grown up hating each other may abstain from voting in the next election. They are literally confused seeing leaders of ideological enemies sharing single stage. For example, a PMLN ideological supporter still can't fathom "AAJ BHI BHUTTO ZINDA HAI, KAL BHI BHUTTO ZINDA THA" slogans. In their hate, they may not join PTI, but they may surely abstain.

4 - PTI support.. even if it's not gaining in the current inflation times, those who have voted are not going anywhere.

5 - Establishment.. every passing day is reminding them about their wrongdoings when they brought PMLN into power in 2013... almost 100% of Brig and above ranks consider PMLN as security risk.. Even if we believe that PMLN has a 0.00001% chance of winning next elections, something will be done to save the country from another catastrophe.

Please do share your opinion too.. I would like to read about what others think..
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cosmetically engineered that is the best thing I heard today. yep the need and desperation to go to london is because harley street is in london and not in Pakistan. all those botox need to be topped up.