A Big War is knocking on the Door of Pakistan

Common_pakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
I am not a political or defense analyst, but after reading a lot of newspapers and views of the intellectuals, politicians, defense, and commercial analysts.

One out-of-the-box thought that strikes my mind is that the regime change is not only to get rid of imrankhan / @ptiofficial Government. But this move indicates the start of a very serious and dangerous series of incidents.

The USA and the western world try to surround China from all sides to start a big war. Like on the east side, South Korea, in South Taiwan and Philippine, in west India and the northwest corner Pakistan, the north side is covered by Russia so can’t considered here.

There is lot of statement on this issue such as

President Joe said in the Tokyo on 23rd May 2022

President says US’s responsibility to protect island is ‘even stronger’ after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nd-taiwan-if-attacked-by-china-says-joe-biden

Internet and media are filled with articles and reports that “What China should learn from the recent invasion of Russia in Ukraine” or What is the lesson learned for China from the Ukraine war. Such as below:

The optimistic answer is that the lessons he is learning make an invasion of Taiwan less likely. First, Xi may be wondering how well his untested military would perform if told to invade. Surely the abysmal performance of Russian troops must make Xi, and every other high official in China, wonder what happens if stiff resistance is met. Like the Russian army, but unlike the U.S. military and our allies who fought in Iraq or Afghanistan, the People's Liberation Army or PLA is simply untried. And Xi must fear that a military defeat could threaten his own hold on power.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/ukraine-war-china-and-taiwan

and the latest article in “the Japan times” showing the weaknesses of the People Liberation Army of China

The Chinese armed forces share many of the same weaknesses as the Russian military

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2022/06/13/%opinion_category%/china-russia-military-weaknesses/

Now the one step forward is that on May 24, 2022, NY times reported that

“WASHINGTON — The Biden administration has accelerated its efforts to reshape Taiwan’s defense systems as it projects a more robust American military presence in the region to try to deter a potential attack by the Chinese military, current and former U.S. officials say.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/24/us/politics/china-taiwan-military.html



With all these above readings, I feel the regime change is the preparation of the war against China same as on 12th October 1999 the Military Coup against @pmln_org under the leadership of Gen. Pervez Musharraf exactly 2years before the attack of 9/11 on September 11, 2001, which become the trigger point for the longest and most expensive war of the current history of human beings called Afghan War (2001 ~ 2021). The war exactly took 19 years, 10 months, 3 weeks, and 2 days starting on 7 October 2001 (exactly 2 years from the Coup of Gen. Pervez Musharraf and till 30 August 2021.

The above process in the same sequence was played in the 1977 Military Coup under the leadership of Gen. Zia ul-Haq on July 5, 1977, and the Soviets invade Afghanistan on 24 December 1979 which prolong the exile of the Soviet last soldier on 15 February 1989.

If carefully calculate the difference in duration between both Coups and the start of the Wars is almost two years in both cases.

Here, again the statement from the defense minister of China on Jun 12, 2022 “China Won’t Hesitate to Fight for Taiwan”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/12/world/asia/china-taiwan-us.html
Summarizing the above both historical incidents and the statements, indicating clearly increase in the probability of War and the current regime may continue or prolong for a minimum decay or more.
 

thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Agreed..This is the plan of USA and alliances in future.. For this India wants a compromised Pakistan who will not able to support China via Gawdar..Baluchistan. Putin ko west side se isolate kar dia gia ha. Will remain bizi in long Ukraine conflict..Arabs are already bend down to Israhell.USA...Whole Asia is rich with untouched natural resources.. West needs to tap this in future..Lekan agar Shiatano k sab plans kamiab hotey tu Dunia kab ki tabah ho chuki hoti aur Allah swt ka naam lenay wala koi nahi hota..
Allah is the best Planner...
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Agreed..This is the plan of USA and alliances in future.. For this India wants a compromised Pakistan who will not able to support China via Gawdar..Baluchistan. Putin ko west side se isolate kar dia gia ha. Will remain bizi in long Ukraine conflict..Arabs are already bend down to Israhell.USA...Whole Asia is rich with untouched natural resources.. West needs to tap this in future..Lekan agar Shiatano k sab plans kamiab hotey tu Dunia kab ki tabah ho chuki hoti aur Allah swt ka naam lenay wala koi nahi hota..
Allah is the best Planner...
Yes dear....
these shetans may plan.. whatever they like..
but the best planner, the only king, also has his plans..
or else they would not have humiliated in Afghanistan... n many other places..
 

Islamabadiya

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hahaha as if Imran khan was going to stop USA from surrounding China lol

O bhae this west strategy has been going on from a long time, why west have been favouring India is also a known fact to counter China in long run

What the hell does this have to do with khan losing his coalition partners
 

thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Yes dear....
these shetans may plan.. whatever they like..
but the best planner, the only king, also has his plans..
or else they would not have humiliated in Afghanistan... n many other places..
Very true...Actually all West Analysts..Planers.are non.believers inside.They don't include or think of Mighty Allah swt in Thiers planning or in big games..
While ours whole life surrounded in belief of Allah swt..
 
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Common_pakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
Agreed..This is the plan of USA and alliances in future.. For this India wants a compromised Pakistan who will not able to support China via Gawdar..Baluchistan. Putin ko west side se isolate kar dia gia ha. Will remain bizi in long Ukraine conflict..Arabs are already bend down to Israhell.USA...Whole Asia is rich with untouched natural resources.. West needs to tap this in future..Lekan agar Shiatano k sab plans kamiab hotey tu Dunia kab ki tabah ho chuki hoti aur Allah swt ka naam lenay wala koi nahi hota..
Allah is the best Planner...
Thanks to understand and seconding the thoughts, you are Right all of the above is the Almighty Allah's Plan
 

Common_pakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
Hahaha as if Imran khan was going to stop USA from surrounding China lol

O bhae this west strategy has been going on from a long time, why west have been favouring India is also a known fact to counter China in long run

What the hell does this have to do with khan losing his coalition partners
to Save India as if Pakistan's ally with the USA will not disturb or attack when this war shall begin, India keeps safe itself from its western border. and will be able to fully focus on the eastern border against china.
Hope it will be clear, otherwise may have a lot of arguments for the sake of arguments.
 

Common_pakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
Ye baat aap ko ab malum hui ha? China's belt and road project was created to counter US bases surrounding china and create alternative sea+land route via gawader.
But why USA and the west not offer the same economical benefits as China and focus on the war only. Because they consider Muslims also as enemy due to religious differences.
 

thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Aik baat par West ki main bhi agreed ho.Aur ye baat mein kae salo se keh raha ho..China needs to test her Army real battlefield strength.. Having big Army..high tech weapons doesn't prove that you have best Army in the world alone..China did a lot in economic front but still not able to test her Army capabilities in real battle ground..USA also lack of to fight with real enemy in wars.they fought mostly lower..less Army..undefendable countries.Peoples.. Even they lost war against chapal wearing brave Taliban in Afghanistan..
 

free_man

MPA (400+ posts)
Chinese might not reach to US lands for direct attack but neighboring allies will be easy direct target. So they will eat you like cats and dogs if you tried to be part of US camp. Pakistani army is in misconception by playing dubious role because historically they will be facing Mongols.
 

thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
But why USA and the west not offer the same economical benefits as China and focus on the war only. Because they consider Muslims also as enemy due to religious differences.
Yes..West never ever trust on Muslims at all.. Actually when USA..West engaged themselves in ME and War on Terror long 25 years..China was bizi to start BRI projects around the world especially in Asia..Jab USA ko hosh aya tu China bohat agay ja chuka tha. Ab USA ne Afghanistan se apni jan chura kar Putin aur China par apna focus kia ha..Game plan wo hi same ha..China ko charo traf se tight karo.borders insecure karo China k.then push for total independent of Tiawan..
Is ke lia India aik traf se China se border conflict start karay ga.S China sea par chotay coutries rola dalay gein..Aur Taiwan bhi khara ho ga China k samnay..Is lia aik side se Pakistan ko compromised kia jaya ga...
 

A.jokhio

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am not a political or defense analyst, but after reading a lot of newspapers and views of the intellectuals, politicians, defense, and commercial analysts.

One out-of-the-box thought that strikes my mind is that the regime change is not only to get rid of imrankhan / @ptiofficial Government. But this move indicates the start of a very serious and dangerous series of incidents.

The USA and the western world try to surround China from all sides to start a big war. Like on the east side, South Korea, in South Taiwan and Philippine, in west India and the northwest corner Pakistan, the north side is covered by Russia so can’t considered here.

There is lot of statement on this issue such as

President Joe said in the Tokyo on 23rd May 2022

President says US’s responsibility to protect island is ‘even stronger’ after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nd-taiwan-if-attacked-by-china-says-joe-biden

Internet and media are filled with articles and reports that “What China should learn from the recent invasion of Russia in Ukraine” or What is the lesson learned for China from the Ukraine war. Such as below:

The optimistic answer is that the lessons he is learning make an invasion of Taiwan less likely. First, Xi may be wondering how well his untested military would perform if told to invade. Surely the abysmal performance of Russian troops must make Xi, and every other high official in China, wonder what happens if stiff resistance is met. Like the Russian army, but unlike the U.S. military and our allies who fought in Iraq or Afghanistan, the People's Liberation Army or PLA is simply untried. And Xi must fear that a military defeat could threaten his own hold on power.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/ukraine-war-china-and-taiwan

and the latest article in “the Japan times” showing the weaknesses of the People Liberation Army of China

The Chinese armed forces share many of the same weaknesses as the Russian military

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2022/06/13/%opinion_category%/china-russia-military-weaknesses/

Now the one step forward is that on May 24, 2022, NY times reported that

“WASHINGTON — The Biden administration has accelerated its efforts to reshape Taiwan’s defense systems as it projects a more robust American military presence in the region to try to deter a potential attack by the Chinese military, current and former U.S. officials say.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/24/us/politics/china-taiwan-military.html



With all these above readings, I feel the regime change is the preparation of the war against China same as on 12th October 1999 the Military Coup against @pmln_org under the leadership of Gen. Pervez Musharraf exactly 2years before the attack of 9/11 on September 11, 2001, which become the trigger point for the longest and most expensive war of the current history of human beings called Afghan War (2001 ~ 2021). The war exactly took 19 years, 10 months, 3 weeks, and 2 days starting on 7 October 2001 (exactly 2 years from the Coup of Gen. Pervez Musharraf and till 30 August 2021.

The above process in the same sequence was played in the 1977 Military Coup under the leadership of Gen. Zia ul-Haq on July 5, 1977, and the Soviets invade Afghanistan on 24 December 1979 which prolong the exile of the Soviet last soldier on 15 February 1989.

If carefully calculate the difference in duration between both Coups and the start of the Wars is almost two years in both cases.

Here, again the statement from the defense minister of China on Jun 12, 2022 “China Won’t Hesitate to Fight for Taiwan”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/12/world/asia/china-taiwan-us.html
Summarizing the above both historical incidents and the statements, indicating clearly increase in the probability of War and the current regime may continue or prolong for a minimum decay or more.
i agree.... india will attack Pakistan.....n kashmir n Gilgil baltistan in serious danger... now as nation we have lost our trust over our security forces... seems Allah has sent his curse on us....
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But why USA and the west not offer the same economical benefits as China and focus on the war only. Because they consider Muslims also as enemy due to religious differences.

US has offered to many muslim countries over the years to pursue their regional interest. eg. Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
in our neighborhood, we have one true Allie.. China..
if we lost her.. we might not have anything left ..
I hope.. bajra will be kicked or killed before anything like that happened..
cannot stress anymore on my sentence which I am posting here for a decade now that "IT IS NOT BAJRA. IT IS ARMY ITSELF". This army was formed for serving the imperial interests and they have done their job to perfection in last 75 years, starting from keeping India busy, breaking the country in 2 pieces, giving platform for USSR war, a helipad for spying in China, then again the Middle east interests and the list goes on with the war on terrorism etc etc.
 

Shimaz

MPA (400+ posts)
Pakistanis will not learn until a halaku khan is imposed on them, God forbid but all signs point to that direction. They will take the steps that are needed now, after something big and disastrous happens. probably waiting for that