Duniyaa ka ilm aur deen ka ilm asal main hen kia?

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
1)quran duniya ka ilm us ko kehta hai jisse kaainaat ki samajh aati hai keh yeh kahaan se aayee, kaise aayee, kyun aayee aur yeh kaise kaam karti hai apne maqsade takhleeq ko poora karne ke liye waghera waghera. isi liye quran main jaga jaga kaainaat par ghoro fikar karne ki dawat di gayee hai. agar kisi ko is baat main shak hai to woh jab aainda quran ko padhe to is baat ko apne zehn main rakh kar padhe yeh baat khud bakhud us par ayaan ho jaaye gi keh quran duniya ke haqaaiq par ghoro fikar ko kis qadar aham qaraar deta hai.

2)quran deen ka ilm wahiye khudaawandi par mabni ilm ko kehta hai. aur yeh baat 100% drust hai keh duniya ke haqaaiq ke ilm ke baghair quran samajh main aa hi nahin sakta. har shakh ko chhaiye apni pedaaish se le kar apni aaj tak ki zindagi par ghoro fikar kare aur khud se poochhe us ko jo ilm haasil hai woh kahaan se aur kaise us ke paas aaya hai.

3)agar ham log is baat ko achhi tarah se samajh jaayen to phir ham yeh khud hi jaan len ge keh duniya ka ilm seekhna kitna zaroori hai kyunkeh is ke baghair kaainaat ke baare main ham ko koi baat samajh main aa hi nahin sakti. isi liye duniya ka ilm haasil karna deen ke ilm par muqaddam hai kyunkeh is ke baghair ham ko khudaa ki baaten samajh aa hi nahin saktin. yaani khudayee ilm ko samajhne ke liye khudaa ki banayee hui kaainaat ka tajarbaati ilm laazmi hai. is liye keh insaan ko aql aati hi zindagi ke tajarbaat se hai jo duniya ke haqaaiq ke saath tajarbe karne se hi aati hai.

yaheen par yeh sawaal peda hota hai ulmaaye haq kon log hen?

yeh wohee log ho sakte hen jin ke paas kaainaat ka ilm bhi hai aur khudaa ki taraf se wahee kiye ge paighaam ka bhi. kyunkeh jin ke paas duniya ke haqaaiq ka ilm nahin hai un ke paas deegar baatun ki haqeeqat ko samajhna ka tajarba hi nahin hai to woh aalimkaie ban sakte hen? lihaaza logoon ko aise logoon ke bebunyaad ilmi dawun par yaqeen nahin karna chahiye jo khud unjaan hen aur apni baatun se apni jahaalat ka saboot khud faraham karte rehte hen.

For better undersatnding of the quran if you have time please see HERE and HERE.
 
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ranaji

President (40k+ posts)
​Deen kaa ilmm Pakistan mai sirf Fuzlaa Diesel double GAY ke paas hai aur dunyaa kaa ilmm harr sensible aur Halali insaan ke paas hai problem yeh keh Fuzlaa diesel kaa deen shaitan kaa deen hai aur yeh Shaitan kaa naib laikin baaz baaton saay shaitan kaa bhi baap sabitt huwa
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
how can you prove that Quran was revealed on the Holy Prophet(Peace be upon him)? did anyone tell you or were you there in the prophetic era?
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
how can you prove that Quran was revealed on the Holy Prophet(Peace be upon him)? did anyone tell you or were you there in the prophetic era?

dear behzad sb, whenever anyone claims something people seek proof and as things develop between claimants and proof seekers a bundle of evidences comes into being which tells us whether a claim is true or false. Likewise when the final messenger of Allah launched his claim of prophethood from Allah people sought proof of him so he put before them the revelation which he claimed was word of God.

When people examined it in light of real world realities at the time and since then it became clear to them whether the claim was true or false. The detail about all this can be found in the links given above.

regards and all the best.
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
dear behzad sb, whenever anyone claims something people seek proof and as things develop between claimants and proof seekers a bundle of evidences comes into being which tells us whether a claim is true or false. Likewise when the final messenger of Allah launched his claim of prophethood from Allah people sought proof of him so he put before them the revelation which he claimed was word of God.

When people examined it in light of real world realities at the time and since then it became clear to them whether the claim was true or false. The detail about all this can be found in the links given above.

regards and all the best.

so do you mean that the revelation which came out of those blessed lips of the Holy Prophet(Peace be upon him) is still guarded and is free of any adulteration and falsehood?
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
so do you mean that the revelation which came out of those blessed lips of the Holy Prophet(Peace be upon him) is still guarded and is free of any adulteration and falsehood?

Of course, dear behzad sb. Not only the text of the quran but even the meanings of words used in the quran. People who opposed deen of islam always tried all they could to destroy it but the message of the quran expanded even more whenever they tried to finish it off.

Had we the people who claim to support deen of islam followed the example of the prophets of Allah faithfully deen of islam could have remained an established reality always. It is because we the ummah have not bothered with properly understanding and spreading it therefore the bad situations have arrived at our door steps by now.

This ummah needs to start working on the message of the quran for its proper understanding and spreading it faithfully so that people come to know what it is and what it expects of them to do so that they come together and form an ummah based upon the quran as its foundation. Only and only then all problems humanity faces could become solved by people themselves with help of guidance provided in the quran for proper management of people, land and resources as well as production and distribution. The quran provides all necessary guidance for mankind in every aspect of life. However, since most of the people in the world are not even literate let alone educated, trained or skilled in so many necessary disciplines therefore it is going to take a lot of time to get everyone to the level of understanding of things the quran demands for its followers.

regards and all the best.
 

behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
Of course, dear behzad sb. Not only the text of the quran but even the meanings of words used in the quran. People who opposed deen of islam always tried all they could to destroy it but the message of the quran expanded even more whenever they tried to finish it off.

Had we the people who claim to support deen of islam followed the example of the prophets of Allah faithfully deen of islam could have remained an established reality always. It is because we the ummah have not bothered with properly understanding and spreading it therefore the bad situations have arrived at our door steps by now.

This ummah needs to start working on the message of the quran for its proper understanding and spreading it faithfully so that people come to know what it is and what it expects of them to do so that they come together and form an ummah based upon the quran as its foundation. Only and only then all problems humanity faces could become solved by people themselves with help of guidance provided in the quran for proper management of people, land and resources as well as production and distribution. The quran provides all necessary guidance for mankind in every aspect of life. However, since most of the people in the world are not even literate let alone educated, trained or skilled in so many necessary disciplines therefore it is going to take a lot of time to get everyone to the level of understanding of things the quran demands for its followers.

regards and all the best.

So how comes the words said by those lips revealing the Wahi and its meaning were secured and guarded against all sorts of corruption and the rest of the Deen which was revealed by the same lips was not saved and we need to think new dictionary meaning for each of the word from our own mind and intellect?

Why don't we rely on the intellect of the Prophet( Peace be upon him) who was so honest in his words that even his worst enemies would call him Sadiq and Ameen and we need to reinvent the whole Deen today by following a misguided person who thinks that the Quran was guarded but the interpretation of the Quran revealed and practiced by the same personality is not to be followed today. either we should stop believing in Quran or we should accept everything which was revealed from those blessed lips.