Election 2023, PTI and going forward

AhmadSaleem264

Minister (2k+ posts)
The economy is a lost cause. If this govt or IK is any sincere then he should focus on governance and development. Improve police and govt institutions, digitize them and monitor them. Start development schemes at the union council level and focus on small roads instead of megaprojects. Probably this can be the only thing they can do now to make people's live better and to have a little hope of surviving the next election. The economy is not going to recover any soon and high oil prices and inflation is here to stay. IK is not responsible for the covid disaster and the inflation or economic shock from it. Recovering from it is not possible any time soon. So probably focusing on governance is the only thing that could be done. Moreover, police and govt reforms were his biggest promise and we yet have to see any improvement instead we are stuck with Buzdar.
Someone should let him know going for milads is no going to get him votes. Siraj ul haq and fazal ur rehman have already tried it.
If pti doesn't correct its course then shehbaz shareef is all ready to cut a deal with the establishment and be the next PM. Govt has already lost its popularity and winning the next election isn't a big deal for pmlN
 

Doom1111

Minister (2k+ posts)
The economy is a lost cause. If this govt or IK is any sincere then he should focus on governance and development. Improve police and govt institutions, digitize them and monitor them. Start development schemes at the union council level and focus on small roads instead of megaprojects. Probably this can be the only thing they can do now to make people's live better and to have a little hope of surviving the next election. The economy is not going to recover any soon and high oil prices and inflation is here to stay. IK is not responsible for the covid disaster and the inflation or economic shock from it. Recovering from it is not possible any time soon. So probably focusing on governance is the only thing that could be done. Moreover, police and govt reforms were his biggest promise and we yet have to see any improvement instead we are stuck with Buzdar.
Someone should let him know going for milads is no going to get him votes. Siraj ul haq and fazal ur rehman have already tried it.
If pti doesn't correct its course then shehbaz shareef is all ready to cut a deal with the establishment and be the next PM. Govt has already lost its popularity and winning the next election isn't a big deal for pmlN
All PTI worked gone and dusted in April 2021. PTI believed Shaukat Tarin fairy tales and i said this was grave mistake, which will put entire PTI in coffin. You people laughed, makes jokes out me and told that this is the best FM ever and Pakistan never witnessed such a good budget.

What Pakistan did in 3 months.

1) 4 billion CAD

2) Devalued due PKR due to Imports of cars 669% increase. ( https://twitter.com/x/status/1449690897285881860 )


3) Lost 2 billion dollar from reserves due to CAD in just 4 weeks

4) Made fiscal balance out place.

5) Cause market to crash 6000 points

6) Lost FDI due to unstable currency.

7) Government update is more higher than 2018 now

8) CDS risk level is equal to 2019 now

This happened due to delay in IMF program, which is now putting us to more hard condition than March 2021 Hafeez wanted to.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Too Little, too late.. Start reciting surah Fatiha....

I am sure you people are quite disheartened . However, if you can hold anyone accountable for this mess, it is IK himself. The buck stops there and he is the ultimately responsible for not implementing his agenda. Now, you and him together, can pack all these used lotas and send them to a foundry. Make sure the word Itifaaq is not written on it . ?
 

AhmadSaleem264

Minister (2k+ posts)
All PTI worked gone and dusted in April 2021. PTI believed Shaukat Tarin fairy tales and i said this was grave mistake, which will put entire PTI in coffin. You people laughed, makes jokes out me and told that this is the best FM ever and Pakistan never witnessed such a good budget.

What Pakistan did in 3 months.

1) 4 billion CAD

2) Devalued due PKR due to Imports of cars 669% increase. ( https://twitter.com/x/status/1449690897285881860 )


3) Lost 2 billion dollar from reserves due to CAD in just 4 weeks

4) Made fiscal balance out place.

5) Cause market to crash 6000 points

6) Lost FDI due to unstable currency.

7) Government update is more higher than 2018 now

8) CDS risk level is equal to 2019 now

This happened due to delay in IMF program, which is now putting us to more hard condition than March 2021 Hafeez wanted to.
Most of the govts were loosening the monetary policy around the world and Pakistan had to follow the trend. After 3 years of austerity, some risky decisions had to be taken to test the waters. Along with that cars doesn't make up most of our import bill. A big portion of our import bill is oil and metal imports. The reason behind increasing CAD was an increase in the prices of commodities in the international market and not because of increasing imports. Commodity prices have almost got doubled in the international market and the primary reason behind that was logistics limitations and delays.
 

AhmadSaleem264

Minister (2k+ posts)
The process is already started and Shahbaz already cut a deal that is why Imran Khan delayed notification ISI Chief.

Another mess is that Shaukat did not survive 3 months of his budget than how will PTI carry this import based growth budget 9 months?

Yes that policy of growth didnt work and had to be taken back but still in the longer run it won't have any impact on the inflation as the whole world is experiencing increase in inflation and commodity prices
 

Doom1111

Minister (2k+ posts)
Most of the govts were loosening the monetary policy around the world and Pakistan had to follow the trend. After 3 years of austerity, some risky decisions had to be taken to test the waters. Along with that cars doesn't make up most of our import bill. A big portion of our import bill is oil and metal imports. The reason behind increasing CAD was an increase in the prices of commodities in the international market and not because of increasing imports. Commodity prices have almost got doubled in the international market and the primary reason behind that was logistics limitations and delays.
No.

This was all consumption led. Shaukat Tarin him self said in USA that all Taxes are based on Import that is why is IMF not agreeing with us. 80% taxes are collected from imports in this 3 months. The entire budget requires 80% tax collection from custom duties.

PTI did more 1 billion dollar of Cars imports ,which was less than previous entire FY.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't think any of the PTI supporters need to feel sad. There is one card, Imran Khan did not reveal and is about to show is the " Religion card ". this always works. Read this column, and you will understand journalists like Ansar Abbasi are highly excited about Imran Khan's future move about religion.

See Imran Khan has disclosed to the Muslims Scholars that he is very worried, Worried about the economy, Inflation? No, what he revealed to the Muslim scholars about his main worry is mentioned in this column. Now you will understand this Eid Miladun-Nabi will be celebrated more enthusiastically than ever before.

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Waqar_H

Senator (1k+ posts)
Army establishment has already started the forward planning of the next “electoral vote counting glitch” aka Electronic voting.

Again in 2023, they will put a dummy in PM house. Sooner or later pakistan will get to face the music like international sanctions etc for this indirect Martial Law & Facism.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That is why he is giving fatwa on Nikha and Marriages instead he should be worried about Shaukat tarin blunders.
I understand your criticism but What could Imran Khan do? PTI does not have a single person in the party who has financial expertise. There are many who have expertise in throwing dirt at the opposition. their tongues are like sharp knives but no brain. He trusted Asad Umer but we all know how disappointing he has been for the party and for the country in financial matters. Imran Khan had to remove him. Then Imran Khan was going to bring Mian Atif to Pakistan but later he was told that, though Mian Atif is an expert in economic matters, he believes in one extra prophet so he can not be accepted.
Then Imran Khan started trying Peoples Party's previous finance ministers. (whose economic policies he vehemently criticized when he was in the opposition). So he has to run the country and PTI does not have an expert in finance. The only problem is, Shaukat Tareen is working for his ex-boss i.e. Zardari, not for his current boss i.e. Imran Khan.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sorr
I don't think any of the PTI supporters need to feel sad. There is one card, Imran Khan did not reveal and is about to show is the " Religion card ". this always works. Read this column, and you will understand journalists like Ansar Abbasi are highly excited about Imran Khan's future move about religion.

See Imran Khan has disclosed to the Muslims Scholars that he is very worried, Worried about the economy, Inflation? No, what he revealed to the Muslim scholars about his main worry is mentioned in this column. Now you will understand this Eid Miladun-Nabi will be celebrated more enthusiastically than ever before.

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May be he doesn't know Imran Khan.
Anyone can speculate but the reality is not that simple
 

angryoldman

Minister (2k+ posts)
I don't think any of the PTI supporters need to feel sad. There is one card, Imran Khan did not reveal and is about to show is the " Religion card ". this always works. Read this column, and you will understand journalists like Ansar Abbasi are highly excited about Imran Khan's future move about religion.

See Imran Khan has disclosed to the Muslims Scholars that he is very worried, Worried about the economy, Inflation? No, what he revealed to the Muslim scholars about his main worry is mentioned in this column. Now you will understand this Eid Miladun-Nabi will be celebrated more enthusiastically than ever before.

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u r right
i acknowledged this a year ago that his only mission was to reach PMship by hook or by crook. 16 members are from ppp 5 from mqm rest are from pmln and q and he comprised on his principals. its like death sentence for some noble person like him to shake hands with mqm and lotas from other parties. but obviously if u get in government u get the power of all rights and all wrongs. no one can dare to challenge u. he ordered eid milad on other hand TLP is on hit list. non islamic laws passed by assembly and Quran education gets compulsory in high and intermediate schools. this is real dirty politics nothing else. no love and pain for islam or the nation.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
u r right
i acknowledged this a year ago that his only mission was to reach PMship by hook or by crook. 16 members are from ppp 5 from mqm rest are from pmln and q and he comprised on his principals. its like death sentence for some noble person like him to shake hands with mqm and lotas from other parties. but obviously if u get in government u get the power of all rights and all wrongs. no one can dare to challenge u. he ordered eid milad on other hand TLP is on hit list. non islamic laws passed by assembly and Quran education gets compulsory in high and intermediate schools. this is real dirty politics nothing else. no love and pain for islam or the nation.
You are spot on about PTI. I have never seen anywhere in the world that a Government bringing finance minister who belonged to the opposition party.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The economy is a lost cause. If this govt or IK is any sincere then he should focus on governance and development. Improve police and govt institutions, digitize them and monitor them. Start development schemes at the union council level and focus on small roads instead of megaprojects. Probably this can be the only thing they can do now to make people's live better and to have a little hope of surviving the next election. The economy is not going to recover any soon and high oil prices and inflation is here to stay. IK is not responsible for the covid disaster and the inflation or economic shock from it. Recovering from it is not possible any time soon. So probably focusing on governance is the only thing that could be done. Moreover, police and govt reforms were his biggest promise and we yet have to see any improvement instead we are stuck with Buzdar.
Someone should let him know going for milads is no going to get him votes. Siraj ul haq and fazal ur rehman have already tried it.
If pti doesn't correct its course then shehbaz shareef is all ready to cut a deal with the establishment and be the next PM. Govt has already lost its popularity and winning the next election isn't a big deal for pmlN
یار احمد سلیم آپ سے پہلے بھی کہا تھا کہ اپنی آئکون پکچر تبدیل کرو - پی ٹی آئ کے اس سب سے زیادہ نالائق ترین کو جب بھی دیکھو تو کہنے کا دل کرتا ہے کہ "توں رین دے یار" - آپ کی باتیں ساری بے معنی ہو جاتی ہیں
یہ اتنا نالائق انسان ہے کہ نالائق عمران بھی اس کی نالائق سمجھتا ہے
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
The economy is a lost cause. If this govt or IK is any sincere then he should focus on governance and development. Improve police and govt institutions, digitize them and monitor them. Start development schemes at the union council level and focus on small roads instead of megaprojects. Probably this can be the only thing they can do now to make people's live better and to have a little hope of surviving the next election. The economy is not going to recover any soon and high oil prices and inflation is here to stay. IK is not responsible for the covid disaster and the inflation or economic shock from it. Recovering from it is not possible any time soon. So probably focusing on governance is the only thing that could be done. Moreover, police and govt reforms were his biggest promise and we yet have to see any improvement instead we are stuck with Buzdar.
Someone should let him know going for milads is no going to get him votes. Siraj ul haq and fazal ur rehman have already tried it.
If pti doesn't correct its course then shehbaz shareef is all ready to cut a deal with the establishment and be the next PM. Govt has already lost its popularity and winning the next election isn't a big deal for pmlN
Relax aur chill maro, PTI will easily win 2023.

1. Opposition did nothing other than cry and try to save their own skins and corruption. Ganja harami is will not comeback and no one other than slaves will vote for nani aur shobaz. Khusri and diesel are not even in the picture.

2. EVM will stop any haram pai

3. Overseas votes : Majority, I would say easily over 90% of overseas Pakistanis are IK voters, that itself is enough for PTI to win.

If IK and the entire govt takes off and goes to switzerland for vacation from now until election day. They will still win.
 

Waqar_H

Senator (1k+ posts)
Relax aur chill maro, PTI will easily win 2023.

1. Opposition did nothing other than cry and try to save their own skins and corruption. Ganja harami is will not comeback and no one other than slaves will vote for nani aur shobaz. Khusri and diesel are not even in the picture.

2. EVM will stop any haram pai

3. Overseas votes : Majority, I would say easily over 90% of overseas Pakistanis are IK voters, that itself is enough for PTI to win.

If IK and the entire govt takes off and goes to switzerland for vacation from now until election day. They will still win.
Wotta chuutiya.

i am an overseas Pakistani and know many others who are not blind followers and keep Imran Khan accountable for the mess he has created and the topi drama of Naya Pakistan with same old corrupt Lotay from PPP & PML-N.

In a credibility less (S)election, which is directly controlled and openly rigged by the GHQ, PTI will win. Just like it did last time.
In real world, its not a real political party and has no grass root level support by anyone bar a few crazy Youthias.