First Legislation should be election reforms

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
We have seen so much problems in our election process starting from low level elections such as NA-75 and election of upper house members and now chairman elections.

Our nation is wasting energy and time on useless activities and efforts are useless.

So first reforms shall be election reforms,

1. A stand alone Electronic voting machine should be used for voting.
2. Basis for designing the EVM shall be ID Card for voting.
3. Machine should be capable to read ID Card.
4. Machine should be capable to read and check duplication or repetition. People involved for second appearance for voting shall be punished by 10 years in jail. This sentence should be implemented without ifs and but.
5. A compatible data should be provided by the NADRA for each polling station. Data fed into the EVM shall match with the person ID Card.
6. After scanning ID Card and matching with the data provided by the NADRA, EVM shall authorize voting and persons shall press the button whom he want to vote.
7. A printed ballot should be printed only containing the symbol and name of the candidate and put in the ballot boxes.
8. Machine should count the votes and printed ballots should be used to counter check if required.

So for general public process should be as follows,

Voter >> ID Card checked by Military/Police/Polling agents >> allowed to move to polling officer >> Polling officer applies ink on both thumbs and cancel ID Card from the book >> voter puts ID Card into scanner >> scanner verifies with data from NADRA and checks repetition >> Scanner authorizes or rejects for voting >> voter press the candidate he wants to vote for >> Voter takes the printed ballot and throws it into ballot boxes

Machine should have the function of printing bar code and bar code should be secret or to be decided at the time of polling start time such as first alphabets of polling officer name, polling agent name or any other number.

Also to finish the hatred, elections should be held on party basis in each constituency and without any candidate pre-nominated. After winning, party should have the right to nominate any candidate from constituency. Party should have the right to change its candidate at any time during the five years period to stop any wrong doings such as happened in senate elections.

A strong code of conduct should be issued for parties to follow and to stop hatred.
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)

سب سے پہلے چوروں لٹیروں ڈکیتوں اور غداروں کے خلاف قانون سازی ہونی چاہیے
When selection is right and out of any influence by the hatred and anarchy, legislators can bring this change.

Let us first give right to the people to vote without any influence.

Also i mentioned in other thread as well that we need to stop ways for thieves by legislation. It is totally unfair that a necklace thief, a certified tharki and punished by courts persons are allowed to be selected and come in power again whereas a chowkidar is not allowed to get any Government job if punished by the courts.
 

First Strike

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When selection is right and out of any influence by the hatred and anarchy, legislators can bring this change.

Let us first give right to the people to vote without any influence.

Also i mentioned in other thread as well that we need to stop ways for thieves by legislation. It is totally unfair that a necklace thief, a certified tharki and punished by courts persons are allowed to be selected and come in power again whereas a chowkidar is not allowed to get any Government job if punished by the courts.

That’s why Imran Khan was asking for open and transparent traceable balloting
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
That’s why Imran Khan was asking for open and transparent traceable balloting
In support of traceable ballot for senators selection. However, chairman and deputy chairman is the right of the legislators.
Open balloting for chairman/deputy chairman can create political chaos or blockade in the country.
 

mskhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Agree, I also propose.

when there is allegation of corruption against someone, it is her or her duty to prove his/her innocence but providing evidence that the wealth is legally earned, like it is in all of the western world.

I also propose in governmental departments there should be a time frame on when someone’s request is completed, and if it is not. that department and ultimately individuals should be fined, this way corruption at lover level can be eliminated.
 
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MMushtaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
We have seen so much problems in our election process starting from low level elections such as NA-75 and election of upper house members and now chairman elections.

Our nation is wasting energy and time on useless activities and efforts are useless.

So first reforms shall be election reforms,

1. A stand alone Electronic voting machine should be used for voting.
2. Basis for designing the EVM shall be ID Card for voting.
3. Machine should be capable to read ID Card.
4. Machine should be capable to read and check duplication or repetition. People involved for second appearance for voting shall be punished by 10 years in jail. This sentence should be implemented without ifs and but.
5. A compatible data should be provided by the NADRA for each polling station. Data fed into the EVM shall match with the person ID Card.
6. After scanning ID Card and matching with the data provided by the NADRA, EVM shall authorize voting and persons shall press the button whom he want to vote.
7. A printed ballot should be printed only containing the symbol and name of the candidate and put in the ballot boxes.
8. Machine should count the votes and printed ballots should be used to counter check if required.

So for general public process should be as follows,

Voter >> ID Card checked by Military/Police/Polling agents >> allowed to move to polling officer >> Polling officer applies ink on both thumbs and cancel ID Card from the book >> voter puts ID Card into scanner >> scanner verifies with data from NADRA and checks repetition >> Scanner authorizes or rejects for voting >> voter press the candidate he wants to vote for >> Voter takes the printed ballot and throws it into ballot boxes

Machine should have the function of printing bar code and bar code should be secret or to be decided at the time of polling start time such as first alphabets of polling officer name, polling agent name or any other number.

Also to finish the hatred, elections should be held on party basis in each constituency and without any candidate pre-nominated. After winning, party should have the right to nominate any candidate from constituency. Party should have the right to change its candidate at any time during the five years period to stop any wrong doings such as happened in senate elections.

A strong code of conduct should be issued for parties to follow and to stop hatred.

That needs 2/3 majority in both houses. The players know how they built this game.
 

ts_rana

Minister (2k+ posts)
Chairman senate doesn't mean that IK has the mojourity but if he can do then 18th Amendment should be thrown to dustbin, Janubi Punjab should be a province, election reforms, and last but not least is the presidential system. Get rid of these vote sellers.
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
That needs 2/3 majority in both houses. The players know how they built this game.
There is difference. To change the constitution, 2/3 majority required.
To amend the legislation or laws, only simple majority.
 
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KhanSuppporter

Minister (2k+ posts)
At least 1/3rd of our population is not going to know how to use the voting machine.
Judicial reforms should is, I think, more important than any other reforms.
1. Dismantle or restrict the Contempt of Court Law
2. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to fire anyone
3. The should be prohibited from making stupid political remarks
4. Parliament should be able to remove judges with 60% majority vote
5. Judges shouldn’t be paid more than the Prime Minister and Army Chief
6. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to hire new judges
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
Agree, I also propose.

when there is allegation of corruption against someone, it is her or her duty to prove his/her innocence but providing evidence that the wealth is legally earned, like it is in all of the western world.

I also propose in governmental departments there should be a time frame on when someone’s request is completed, and if it is not. that department and ultimately individuals should be fined, this way corruption at lover level can be eliminated.
There is time frame.
But problem is it's implementation in true spirit.
Same for judiciary.
Judges performance shall be a criteria to throw out from the offices.
But there is none being implemented.
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
At least 1/3rd of our population is not going to know how to use the voting machine.
Judicial reforms should is, I think, more important than any other reforms.
1. Dismantle or restrict the Contempt of Court Law
2. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to fire anyone
3. The should be prohibited from making stupid political remarks
4. Parliament should be able to remove judges with 60% majority vote
5. Judges shouldn’t be paid more than the Prime Minister and Army Chief
6. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to hire new judges
No my friend, we can't interfere in judicial affairs.
Yes a separate system needed to select judges not this political method.
Judiciary need to built its own performance based criteria for promotion and firing of judges.
SC / HC should decide the future of judges on numbers of cases, rejected cases at HC/SC level from lower judiciary etc
SC/HC should implement it's performance criteria.
Main issue is the failures of high ups to implementation of performance based criteria.
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
At least 1/3rd of our population is not going to know how to use the voting machine.
Judicial reforms should is, I think, more important than any other reforms.
1. Dismantle or restrict the Contempt of Court Law
2. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to fire anyone
3. The should be prohibited from making stupid political remarks
4. Parliament should be able to remove judges with 60% majority vote
5. Judges shouldn’t be paid more than the Prime Minister and Army Chief
6. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to hire new judges
Also EVM voting is more simple.
They only have to push a button in front of candidate they are supporting.
No stamping required.
For how much long we will hide behind this illiterate logic.
I do not know a single person who can not count or calculate his money.