How Nawaz Sharif found out in 2009 that he will form Gov in 2013???

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
Nawaz/Shahbaz

Tried and tespro-establishment partyted formula of Good Cop/Bad Cop!!!
PML(N) was pro-establishment party until early nineties therefore they have lot of pro-establishment people within party.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
PML(N) was pro-establishment party until early nineties therefore they have lot of pro-establishment people within party.

Don't forget to give credit to Kiyani and Raheel...

It is still not anti-establishment.
Their only gripe is that why they did not help them with rigging or at least NRO this time.

Phone call to COAS from Kh. Asif (who is supposedly anti-establishment) is a testament to their grievances against GHQ.
 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
Don't forget to give credit to Kiyani and Raheel...

It is still not anti-establishment.
Their only gripe is that why they did not help them with rigging or at least NRO this time.

Phone call to COAS from Kh. Asif (who is supposedly anti-establishment) is a testament to their grievances against GHQ.
Khawaja Asif is pro-establishment and not anti. Now by your own logic you should accept that 2013 elections were free and fair. Nawaz got an NRO and went abroad with the help of generals and Khan could not do anything. This shows that puppet government cannot do anything without army.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Khawaja Asif is pro-establishment and not anti. Now by your own logic you should accept that 2013 elections were free and fair. Nawaz got an NRO and went abroad with the help of generals and Khan could not do anything. This shows that puppet government cannot do anything without army.

How one can deduce that???

What was the hang up of opening 4 constituencies?

It's not just the Nawaz loving (or blackmailed through secret Videos) establishment but the corrupt Judiciary with the help of Lifafa Media that he became successful in running away. Leaving behind his loyal and corrupt derbaris to defend this coward!!!
 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
How one can deduce that???

What was the hang up of opening 4 constituencies?

It's not just the Nawaz loving (or blackmailed through secret Videos) establishment but the corrupt Judiciary with the help of Lifafa Media that he became successful in running away. Leaving behind his loyal and corrupt derbaris to defend this coward!!!
You have already said that rigging occurs only in close race, there was no close race between PTI and PML(N) in 2013. In majority of seats there was more more than 50,000 vote difference. This proves that there was no rigging as per your own words.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You have already said that rigging occurs only in close race, there was no close race between PTI and PML(N) in 2013. In majority of seats there was more more than 50,000 vote difference. This proves that there was no rigging as per your own words.

Close races under normal circumstances...

Some elections are more rigged than others and 2013 is one of those rogue elections where the concept of sanctity of vote was totally out of the window.

The way the corrupt and compromised ECP, Judiciary and Bureaucracy is behaving under PTI, it should not take a leap of faith to see their roles under the autocratic rule of Scilcian Mafia!!!
 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
Close races under normal circumstances...

Some elections are more rigged than others and 2013 is one of those rogue elections where the concept of sanctity of vote was totally out of the window.

The way the corrupt and compromised ECP, Judiciary and Bureaucracy is behaving under PTI, it should not take a leap of faith to see their roles under the autocratic rule of Scilcian Mafia!!!
If PML_N rigged 2013 elections why they cannot rig 2018 when they were in government both provincial and federal. By the way, court has opened all constituencies of 2013 elections and got nothing in the favour of so called rigging. In 2013, PTI was no where outside of three cities of Lahore, Multan and Pindi. As I have said that vote difference was over 50,000 votes each constituency therefore under your definition, rigging was not possible. Now stand on your words.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
If PML_N rigged 2013 elections why they cannot rig 2018 when they were in government both provincial and federal. By the way, court has opened all constituencies of 2013 elections and got nothing in the favour of so called rigging. In 2013, PTI was no where outside of three cities of Lahore, Multan and Pindi. As I have said that vote difference was over 50,000 votes each constituency therefore under your definition, rigging was not possible. Now stand on your words.

Dynamics was totally changed in 2018...

Tsunami further gained momentum with great performance in KP province.

While PML-N was sinking, not only due to poor performance but due to Panama as well.

PTI would have gotten even more seats if not for rigging!!!
 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dynamics was totally changed in 2018...

Tsunami further gained momentum with great performance in KP province.

While PML-N was sinking, not only due to poor performance but due to Panama as well.

PTI would have gotten even more seats if not for rigging!!!
Anyways, forget about past and focus on current and future. Another defeat in Khushab today for PTI. This area is not central Punjab rather it is close to Mianwali, a strong hold of PTI. The party position of by-elections held last two months is as under:
PML(N) 4
PPP 3
PTI 1
JUI(F) 1

Losing 9 elections in all four province shows how PTI is popular in all four provinces. It should be noted that PTI has a federal government and provincial government in 3 provinces.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Anyways, forget about past and focus on current and future. Another defeat in Khushab today for PTI. This area is not central Punjab rather it is close to Mianwali, a strong hold of PTI. The party position of by-elections held last two months is as under:
PML(N) 4
PPP 3
PTI 1
JUI(F) 1

Losing 9 elections in all four province shows how PTI is popular in all four provinces. It should be noted that PTI has a federal government and provincial government in 3 provinces.

After Daska elections, ECP has lost all credibility to conduct transparent elections...

PPP/PML-N rejected EVMs without even looking into the details and are not interested in reforming the system as rigging suits them quite well.

Anyways, below is the news from 2015 which was trumpeted and prematurely celebrated by Geo and Patwaris alike!!!


 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
After Daska elections, ECP has lost all credibility to conduct transparent elections...

PPP/PML-N rejected EVMs without even looking into the details and are not interested in reforming the system as rigging suits them quite well.

Anyways, below is the news from 2015 which was trumpeted and prematurely celebrated by Geo and Patwaris alike!!!


PTI is going back to pre-2013 elections where they won only 35 constituencies. They will be lucky if they win this much seats in next elections. By-elections are eye opener for PTI.
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
PTI is going back to pre-2013 elections where they won only 35 constituencies. They will be lucky if they win this much seats in next elections. By-elections are eye opener for PTI.

In the midst of their term in KP (after 2014), when like today the propaganda was slowly reaching it's crescendo of non-performance.

In the meantime, PTI is also building a public narrative of repeated rigged elections with a dire need to reform the electoral process!!!
 

Awan S

Minister (2k+ posts)
After Daska elections, ECP has lost all credibility to conduct transparent elections...

PPP/PML-N rejected EVMs without even looking into the details and are not interested in reforming the system as rigging suits them quite well.

Anyways, below is the news from 2015 which was trumpeted and prematurely celebrated by Geo and Patwaris alike!!!


Election Commission clearly got evidence of rigging therefore they decided to conduct a re-election. This is why EC is not holding fair elections? PTI went to supreme court and EC shows proof to court and in the end SC maintained the decision of re-elections. EC is rigging elections because they announced re-election with clear rigging proofs? What a logic
 

desan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Election Commission clearly got evidence of rigging therefore they decided to conduct a re-election. This is why EC is not holding fair elections? PTI went to supreme court and EC shows proof to court and in the end SC maintained the decision of re-elections. EC is rigging elections because they announced re-election with clear rigging proofs? What a logic

Try to explain this smoke and mirrors of ECP and Judiciary to the masses...

Public is fed up with Lohar Courts and Briefcase Judges.

Try to rig elections with full backing from Malik Qayyum style judges at your own peril.
 
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