IK was to end Circular debt by 2020 --- we still have 4 months

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Circular debt went up by Rs44.8 bn per month in last fiscal

ISLAMABAD: Against claims of curtailing circular debt by Rs12 billion per month, it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis in last fiscal year, it is learnt.


In last fiscal year 2019-20, the circular debt increased by Rs538 billion on annual basis indicating that it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis and piled up by Rs1.48 billion on daily basis.

The total accumulated cash bleeding of power sector in shape of flows and stocks have crossed mammoth mark of Rs2.2 trillion and there is no permanent solution in sight to curb the increasing burden on the economy. No government in the past 20 years could harness this ever growing debt.

When government’s top officials were contacted for comments, they said that the accumulation of circular debt was under control before Covid-19 pandemic but then it lost momentum after outbreak of this deadly virus. Now the government, they said, was preparing a comprehensive plan to curb the piling up of circular debt. The government is also making plans to rationalise subsidies for power, gas, fertiliser and other sectors with the objective to introduce targeted mechanism by abolishing generalised subsidies provisions.

When contacted, former Adviser to Ministry of Finance, Dr Khaqan Najeeb said that energy was like a lifeline for the economy. The energy financials have deteriorated and are impacting its availability.

The bleeding or what is more fashionably known as circular debt has over the past 12 months averaged at Rs1.48 billion a day or Rs44.58 billion a month or a whopping Rs538 billion in FY20. “This build-up is worrisome as it has increased from Rs465 billion in FY19 to Rs538 billion in FY2020,” he added. Dr Khaqan explained this increasing burden has resulted in more government’s worsening fiscal situation or actually quasi-fiscal deficit of 2.4 percent.

When asked about solutions, Dr Khaqan Najeeb mentioned that six managerial actions could stem the losses and ensure smooth supply of surplus electricity. The key is to reduce line losses by controlling theft, increasing recovery by installing 5 kwh smart meters, agreeing on a policy decision on the AJK tariff issue, adequately budgeting subsidies, making GST payable only on recovery and letting automaticity of tariff pass through work. He emphasised that the above steps are survival of the energy sector.

 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
چار مہینے ہیں -- خان کو چاہیے کہ اب پھونکیں شونکیں مروا ہے لے آخر اور ختم کر دے اس گردشی قرضے کو

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jeelu

Minister (2k+ posts)
Lol anyone who knows economy knows why we have the debt problem we have now but its ok u guys are paid to twist facts and to some extent u dont want to admit to the facts too so yeh nara lagatat raho k ik nay mulk dabo dia nawaz shareef hota tou pakistan asian tiger hota
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Lol anyone who knows economy knows why we have the debt problem we have now but its ok u guys are paid to twist facts and to some extent u dont want to admit to the facts too so yeh nara lagatat raho k ik nay mulk dabo dia nawaz shareef hota tou pakistan asian tiger hota
اؤووو - اچھا تو نالائقوں کی نالائقی سمجھنے کے لئے بھی ایکنومسٹ ہونا پڑتا ہے
کمال ہے بئی -- یہ بھی نوے پاکستان کا رنگ ہے
 

jeelu

Minister (2k+ posts)
اؤووو - اچھا تو نالائقوں کی نالائقی سمجھنے کے لئے بھی ایکنومسٹ ہونا پڑتا ہے
کمال ہے بئی -- یہ بھی نوے پاکستان کا رنگ ہے
Lol as i said apka kasoor nahi .. if u dont know how we got here there is nothing we can tell u
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Circular debt went up by Rs44.8 bn per month in last fiscal

ISLAMABAD: Against claims of curtailing circular debt by Rs12 billion per month, it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis in last fiscal year, it is learnt.


In last fiscal year 2019-20, the circular debt increased by Rs538 billion on annual basis indicating that it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis and piled up by Rs1.48 billion on daily basis.

The total accumulated cash bleeding of power sector in shape of flows and stocks have crossed mammoth mark of Rs2.2 trillion and there is no permanent solution in sight to curb the increasing burden on the economy. No government in the past 20 years could harness this ever growing debt.

When government’s top officials were contacted for comments, they said that the accumulation of circular debt was under control before Covid-19 pandemic but then it lost momentum after outbreak of this deadly virus. Now the government, they said, was preparing a comprehensive plan to curb the piling up of circular debt. The government is also making plans to rationalise subsidies for power, gas, fertiliser and other sectors with the objective to introduce targeted mechanism by abolishing generalised subsidies provisions.

When contacted, former Adviser to Ministry of Finance, Dr Khaqan Najeeb said that energy was like a lifeline for the economy. The energy financials have deteriorated and are impacting its availability.

The bleeding or what is more fashionably known as circular debt has over the past 12 months averaged at Rs1.48 billion a day or Rs44.58 billion a month or a whopping Rs538 billion in FY20. “This build-up is worrisome as it has increased from Rs465 billion in FY19 to Rs538 billion in FY2020,” he added. Dr Khaqan explained this increasing burden has resulted in more government’s worsening fiscal situation or actually quasi-fiscal deficit of 2.4 percent.

When asked about solutions, Dr Khaqan Najeeb mentioned that six managerial actions could stem the losses and ensure smooth supply of surplus electricity. The key is to reduce line losses by controlling theft, increasing recovery by installing 5 kwh smart meters, agreeing on a policy decision on the AJK tariff issue, adequately budgeting subsidies, making GST payable only on recovery and letting automaticity of tariff pass through work. He emphasised that the above steps are survival of the energy sector.

Why did NS pay 3 times higher for electricity generation than IK has?
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
actually one electricity price increase is pending. It was supposed to happen in March-April but due to covid 19 that plan was rightly put off. Now it seems the new strategy involves renegotiating the price of electricity and then raising the price to finally reach break even. This would take a few months as CPEC power projects are being renegotiated and as a result IMF program has been put on a halt.

The biggest madaarr chods are CTBT and their supporters who awarded power projects based on huge capacity payment and made billions in commissions and offshore wealth.
 

2hopeful

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Both PPP & PMLN have signed contracts that the payments will be made in US $s based on the capacity note capacity plus the use of production (electricity) then nation shouldnt be surprised. Ifthey have capacity to make 100 worth of electricity and we use only 70 worth the balance still has to be paid.
Govt cant put the whole burdon on people and so the debt keep on rising.
Hopefully the IPPs have agreed to reviev the contracts something good will come out of it.
 

sensible

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
چار مہینے ہیں -- خان کو چاہیے کہ اب پھونکیں شونکیں مروا ہے لے آخر اور ختم کر دے اس گردشی قرضے کو

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آتے ہی نواز شرریف نے اپنی حکومت میں جن دوستوں کو پیسے پکڑا دیے تھے بغیر حساب کتاب کے .اس نے تو کہا تھا گردشی قرضہ اب چڑھے گا ہی نہیں .تو اس وقت آپ نے کیوں تھریڈ نہیں لگایا تھا اس کی بکواس پر جب وہ جاتے ہوئے اس سے بھی زیادہ قرضہ چھوڑ کر گئے جتنا ادائیگی سے پہلے تھا
 

back to the future

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Circular debt is the loss accumulated by power sector

why Wapda didnot monitor the line losses?is it so difficult to break down the revenue and see where theft is occurring?and then curb it?
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Circular debt went up by Rs44.8 bn per month in last fiscal

ISLAMABAD: Against claims of curtailing circular debt by Rs12 billion per month, it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis in last fiscal year, it is learnt.


In last fiscal year 2019-20, the circular debt increased by Rs538 billion on annual basis indicating that it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis and piled up by Rs1.48 billion on daily basis.

The total accumulated cash bleeding of power sector in shape of flows and stocks have crossed mammoth mark of Rs2.2 trillion and there is no permanent solution in sight to curb the increasing burden on the economy. No government in the past 20 years could harness this ever growing debt.

When government’s top officials were contacted for comments, they said that the accumulation of circular debt was under control before Covid-19 pandemic but then it lost momentum after outbreak of this deadly virus. Now the government, they said, was preparing a comprehensive plan to curb the piling up of circular debt. The government is also making plans to rationalise subsidies for power, gas, fertiliser and other sectors with the objective to introduce targeted mechanism by abolishing generalised subsidies provisions.

When contacted, former Adviser to Ministry of Finance, Dr Khaqan Najeeb said that energy was like a lifeline for the economy. The energy financials have deteriorated and are impacting its availability.

The bleeding or what is more fashionably known as circular debt has over the past 12 months averaged at Rs1.48 billion a day or Rs44.58 billion a month or a whopping Rs538 billion in FY20. “This build-up is worrisome as it has increased from Rs465 billion in FY19 to Rs538 billion in FY2020,” he added. Dr Khaqan explained this increasing burden has resulted in more government’s worsening fiscal situation or actually quasi-fiscal deficit of 2.4 percent.

When asked about solutions, Dr Khaqan Najeeb mentioned that six managerial actions could stem the losses and ensure smooth supply of surplus electricity. The key is to reduce line losses by controlling theft, increasing recovery by installing 5 kwh smart meters, agreeing on a policy decision on the AJK tariff issue, adequately budgeting subsidies, making GST payable only on recovery and letting automaticity of tariff pass through work. He emphasised that the above steps are survival of the energy sector.

how much did mian reduce it by? as someone said your mian gave them (mansha) a huge payout!!

aapey nakame te dujae nu kehnde ke kaam karo.
 

Gramscian

MPA (400+ posts)
Nawaz Sharif was about to give ‘izzat to vote’ ..... we are still waiting.....

That topi drama ended with his departure to London and PML-N voting for Bajwa's extension.

As for circular debt, PML-N, being the most ''experienced and competent'' government in the history of Pakistan, paid Rs 480 billion in one go right after assuming power without following due procedure claiming it had resolved the problem for once and all:


By the time their term ended, they left 1.1 trillion in circular debt.

For a detailed report, read here:


Unfavourable long-term contracts, dilapidated transmission system and then the unprecedented pandemic were bound to have negative effect on circular debt.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
چار مہینے ہیں -- خان کو چاہیے کہ اب پھونکیں شونکیں مروا ہے لے آخر اور ختم کر دے اس گردشی قرضے کو

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Nawaz ganju kay tattay polish kerne walay kammi kameen agar thordi se bhi sharam aur haya hai to khud khusi ker le. Kis cheez ke thanay maar rahe ho? Ke tumhari chori ka nuqsan aab tak Prime Minister Imran Khan ne poora nahi kiya? O beghairton kuch to saboot dey do ke tum log khotay nahi insaan ho.


 

Sonya Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
That topi drama ended with his departure to London and PML-N voting for Bajwa's extension.

As for circular debt, PML-N, being the most ''experienced and competent'' government in the history of Pakistan, paid Rs 480 billion in one go right after assuming power without following due procedure claiming it had resolved the problem for once and all:


By the time their term ended, they left 1.1 trillion in circular debt.

For a detailed report, read here:


Unfavourable long-term contracts, dilapidated transmission system and then the unprecedented pandemic were bound to have negative effect on circular debt.
Very comprehensive analysis ...... Alas if only the patwaris could comprehend......
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Imran Khan tabah de

Circular debt went up by Rs44.8 bn per month in last fiscal

ISLAMABAD: Against claims of curtailing circular debt by Rs12 billion per month, it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis in last fiscal year, it is learnt.


In last fiscal year 2019-20, the circular debt increased by Rs538 billion on annual basis indicating that it went up by Rs44.8 billion on monthly basis and piled up by Rs1.48 billion on daily basis.

The total accumulated cash bleeding of power sector in shape of flows and stocks have crossed mammoth mark of Rs2.2 trillion and there is no permanent solution in sight to curb the increasing burden on the economy. No government in the past 20 years could harness this ever growing debt.

When government’s top officials were contacted for comments, they said that the accumulation of circular debt was under control before Covid-19 pandemic but then it lost momentum after outbreak of this deadly virus. Now the government, they said, was preparing a comprehensive plan to curb the piling up of circular debt. The government is also making plans to rationalise subsidies for power, gas, fertiliser and other sectors with the objective to introduce targeted mechanism by abolishing generalised subsidies provisions.

When contacted, former Adviser to Ministry of Finance, Dr Khaqan Najeeb said that energy was like a lifeline for the economy. The energy financials have deteriorated and are impacting its availability.

The bleeding or what is more fashionably known as circular debt has over the past 12 months averaged at Rs1.48 billion a day or Rs44.58 billion a month or a whopping Rs538 billion in FY20. “This build-up is worrisome as it has increased from Rs465 billion in FY19 to Rs538 billion in FY2020,” he added. Dr Khaqan explained this increasing burden has resulted in more government’s worsening fiscal situation or actually quasi-fiscal deficit of 2.4 percent.

When asked about solutions, Dr Khaqan Najeeb mentioned that six managerial actions could stem the losses and ensure smooth supply of surplus electricity. The key is to reduce line losses by controlling theft, increasing recovery by installing 5 kwh smart meters, agreeing on a policy decision on the AJK tariff issue, adequately budgeting subsidies, making GST payable only on recovery and letting automaticity of tariff pass through work. He emphasised that the above steps are survival of the energy sector.

 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Both PPP & PMLN have signed contracts that the payments will be made in US $s based on the capacity note capacity plus the use of production (electricity) then nation shouldnt be surprised. Ifthey have capacity to make 100 worth of electricity and we use only 70 worth the balance still has to be paid.
Govt cant put the whole burdon on people and so the debt keep on rising.
Hopefully the IPPs have agreed to reviev the contracts something good will come out of it.
Why did NS pay 3 times higher for electricity generation than IK has?
That topi drama ended with his departure to London and PML-N voting for Bajwa's extension.

As for circular debt, PML-N, being the most ''experienced and competent'' government in the history of Pakistan, paid Rs 480 billion in one go right after assuming power without following due procedure claiming it had resolved the problem for once and all:


By the time their term ended, they left 1.1 trillion in circular debt.

For a detailed report, read here:


Unfavourable long-term contracts, dilapidated transmission system and then the unprecedented pandemic were bound to have negative effect on circular debt.
Very comprehensive analysis ...... Alas if only the patwaris could comprehend......

I cannot expect anything sensible from you Jahil Imranis Thinking from your minds is far from your usual traits.

Benazir when asked the International and national investors to set up IPPs in late 80s. She offered 6 cents per unit. Which was the worlds most lucrative offer. Since then we were trapped into the menace of IPPs and they were able to provide us the Power when most needed and squeeze us when they want. PMLN got Govt for 1.5 years and 2 years. Then Musharuf did not take us out of this trap of IPPs.

Last tenure was only time when PMLN took power for 4 years only (last year of tenure was in a22 of Saqib Nisaar). The first thing they did was taking us out of the IPPs traps. Added 9000 MW to grid. When dams run at full capacity we get 11000 MW more than what we had in 2013. IPPs are now almost redundant. These are needed only when our rivers flow short and the Dams do not produce enough. On top of it there were Alhamdo Lillah lots of Hydel projects initiated. (Which you IK is inaugurating every day)

So IPPS now know their future. They will be needed only in low production seasons. They cannot blackmail the Govt anymore. So they were compelled to reduce their rates.

But You imrani Monkeys are not able to understand this deep. You just know how to dance on Dug Duggies --- you idiots.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Nawaz ganju kay tattay polish kerne walay kammi kameen agar thordi se bhi sharam aur haya hai to khud khusi ker le. Kis cheez ke thanay maar rahe ho? Ke tumhari chori ka nuqsan aab tak Prime Minister Imran Khan ne poora nahi kiya? O beghairton kuch to saboot dey do ke tum log khotay nahi insaan ho.


آ عمران خان نے لفافے دے کر بھونکے کے لئے دو چار کتے بھرتی کر لئے ہیں اور ان کے ساتھ ہمنوا ہو کر تم بھی کتے بن جاتے ہو سارے --- اوپر کومنٹ میں میں نے آئ پی پی کی بلیک میلنگ کی وجہ لکھ دی ہے جو اب وہ نہیں کر سکتے

لیکن کھوتیا تمہیں تو صرف میں اس وجہ سے یہاں بلاتا ہوں کہ تم نے بہت دولتیاں ماری تھیں جب عمر ایوب نے کہا تھا کہ ٢٠٢٠ تک ہم گردشی قرضے ختم کر دیں گے



Govt to bring circular debt to zero by Dec ’20: Omar Ayub

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