Is Establishment against PTI or neutral due that PPP in contacts with MQM.

[Doom1111]

Is Establishment against PTI or neutral due that PPP in contacts with MQM and even with PMLQ for senate seats? Is this news are media reporting on daily bases.

 

[imran_hosein_fan]

Bhai urdu mein likh de, aakhir kehna kya chahta hai??

 

[Kam]

If PPP agrees to give development budget as per population share of Karachi and Hyderabad by legislation and control to City Government, PTI will also vote PPP if its for senate seat only.

Ab is main kia...........

 

[master timi]

کچھ بھی نہیں ہے۔ صرف میڈیا کے ذریعے ایک کہانی پیش کی جارہی ہے۔ اس غبارے میں سے ہوا سینٹ الیکشن والے دن نکل جانی ہے انشاءاللہ۔

 

[Doom1111]

Bhai urdu mein likh de, aakhir kehna kya chahta hai??

What i want to say is that Media has made Hafeez Sheik seat as do or die for PTI. If Hafeez somehow loses than Media is saying that PM ship of Imran over and he has to 100% resign even Sabir Shakir, pro PTI journalist are making that case.

However, what i understand is that No confidence vote is only thorough open vote and they have to backstab IK in daylight ,but in senate everyone can be bought.

Media is also saying that if Hafeez loses than Establishment has withdrawn it's support from PTI.

 

[Kam]

What i want to say is that Media has made Hafeez Sheik seat as do or die for PTI. If Hafeez somehow loses than Media is saying that PM ship of Imran over and he has to 100% resign even Sabir Shakir, pro PTI journalist are making that case.

However, what i understand is that No confidence vote is only thorough open vote and they have to backstab IK in daylight ,but in senate everyone can be bought.

Media is also saying that if Hafeez loses than Establishment has withdrawn it's support from PTI.

PTI only focus after senate shall be to change and amend rules and regulations.
To make amendment in law is not possible since two third majority.

So only focus shall to simplify the rules and regulations. Yes if there is some hurdle or problems in amending the rules and regulations, then General Elections should be considered.
Second option is, PTI has taken more than enough burden on its shoulders to correct the economy, which is heading in a positive direction. If general elections, country cannot afford.
So it will be a well thought decision between Government and stake holders to go for general elections.

 

[Doom1111]

PTI only focus after senate shall be to change and amend rules and regulations.
To make amendment in law is not possible since two third majority.

So only focus shall to simplify the rules and regulations. Yes if there is some hurdle or problems in amending the rules and regulations, then General Elections should be considered.
Second option is, PTI has taken more than enough burden on its shoulders to correct the economy, which is heading in a positive direction. If general elections, country cannot afford.
So it will be a well thought decision between Government and stake holders to go for general elections.

yes is media reporting the case correct if Hafeez does not become the senator than it is all over PTI due to establishment has withdrawn it's support and no confidence vote is success?

 

[Kam]

yes is media reporting the case correct if Hafeez does not become the senator than it is all over PTI due to establishment has withdrawn it's support and no confidence vote is success?

Establishment if choses thieves then they must get ready for,

1. Memo gates
2. Dawn Leaks
3. Back stabbing
4. Work against countries interests
5. Another dollar devaluation
6. Increased account deficits
and many other law and order security issues which are the by products of corruption by the thugs PPPP and PMLN.

Its establishment choice " Corrupt thugs first or Pakistan first "

 

[Citizen X]

If Hafeez somehow loses than Media is saying that

And that is your problem right there, if you give any credence to this sold out yellow lifafa media then its your own fault. According to media IK's govt has been toppled about half a dozen time by now, IK has been removed from the seat of PMship about two dozen times by now, according to the media .......................

You should stop listening to the media or worry about what they say.

You should only worry about FATF! ?

 

[Doom1111]

And that is your problem right there, if you give any credence to this sold out yellow lifafa media then its your own fault. According to media IK's govt has been toppled about half a dozen time by now, IK has been removed from the seat of PMship about two dozen times by now, according to the media .......................

You should stop listening to the media or worry about what they say.

You should only worry about FATF! ?

Of coruse i worry about FATF, however, do you think if Hafeez does not become senator than PDM will bring no confidence vote with full force due to lack of trust among PTI member and establishment. However, senate votes are hidden and vote of no confidence is open.

 

[Awan S]

ایک اچھی بات جو ہر تجربے کار صحافی کہہ رہا ہے کہ اب اسٹیبلشمنٹ نیوٹرل ہو رہی ہے اس کے لئے تین نشانیاں ہے - ایک گلگت کے انتخاب میں انہوں نے مداخلت نہیں کی - پھر کسی بھی ضمنی الیکشن میں مداخلت نہیں کی اور نہ الیکشن کمیشن کو کوئی فیصلہ کرنے پر مجبور کیا - حمزہ شہباز سپریم کورٹ گیا اور کہا کہ اگر میں ہر پیشی پر حاضر ہورہا ہوں تو پھر گرفتاری کیوں اور دو سال سے جیل میں ہوں - انہوں نے کہا ہائی کورٹ کو کیس مکمل کرنے دیں اگر انہوں نے پھر بھی ضمانت نہ دی تو دوبارہ آئیں ہم ضمانت دے دیں گے - یوں یہ ٹیکنیکل گراؤنڈ پر ضمانت ہوئی ہے اور اسٹیبلشمنٹ نے کسی پر دباؤ نہیں ڈالا - ادارے مظبوط ہو رہے ہیں اور اپنی حدود میں رہنا چاہتے ہیں تو کیا غلط ہے ؟
Desprado
Citizen X
Kam

 

[Awan S]

And that is your problem right there, if you give any credence to this sold out yellow lifafa media then its your own fault. According to media IK's govt has been toppled about half a dozen time by now, IK has been removed from the seat of PMship about two dozen times by now, according to the media .......................

You should stop listening to the media or worry about what they say.

You should only worry about FATF! ?

ایوب خان کے دور میں ایوب خان کے لئے ایک الگ اخبار چھپتا تھا جو اسے سب اچھا دکھاتا تھا - مارشل لاء تھا میڈیا فوج کے کنٹرول میں تھا پھر بھی منفی خبریں چھپتی تھیں - خان صاحب کو بھی آپ لوگ اپنا ایک اخبار اور اپنی ایک ویب سائٹ دے دیں جس پر سب اچھا ہو - ویسے تو یہ سیاست پی کے بھی مکمل طور پر انصافیوں کے کنٹرول میں ہے پھر بھی میرے جیسے کچھ لوگ یہاں حکومت کے غلط کاموں پر بول ہی لیتے ہیں

 

[Citizen X]

Of coruse i worry about FATF, however, do you think if Hafeez does not become senator than PDM will bring no confidence vote with full force due to lack of trust among PTI member and establishment. However, senate votes are hidden and vote of no confidence is open.

Abhay yaar to relax ker aur chill ker. Kuch nahi honay wala. PDM kissi jogay hoti na to aab tak ker liya hota. Puddu Dakoo movement ne apni bund ka zor laga liya pichlay 5 mahino mein, in se lun bhi nahi huwa or na ho sakta hai.

More than hafeez, PDM has everything at stake if they can't even make their ex PM win a simple senate seat. PPP is so fucked that they can't even start a rumour that 12 PTI members are with them if they will get PPP tickets because everybody will laugh at them. Can you imagine PPPs ex PM will get 12 votes if he can promise them pmlun tickets!!!! ? ? ? ? ? ?

 

[Citizen X]

ایوب خان کے دور میں ایوب خان کے لئے ایک الگ اخبار چھپتا تھا جو اسے سب اچھا دکھاتا تھا - مارشل لاء تھا میڈیا فوج کے کنٹرول میں تھا پھر بھی منفی خبریں چھپتی تھیں - خان صاحب کو بھی آپ لوگ اپنا ایک اخبار اور اپنی ایک ویب سائٹ دے دیں جس پر سب اچھا ہو - ویسے تو یہ سیاست پی کے بھی مکمل طور پر انصافیوں کے کنٹرول میں ہے پھر بھی میرے جیسے کچھ لوگ یہاں حکومت کے غلط کاموں پر بول ہی لیتے ہیں

Don't worry the second something goes against pmlun then instantly establishment will biased again according to you folk. When the courts decided in your favour then the law of the land is upheld but when it comes against you, then establishment is forcing the judges hands. Tum log sirf aur sirf thali ke baigan ho

AND I never said anything about Hamza's bail. I think it was totally on merit. The prosecutor said the case will go on for at least another year and a half and the defense argued the defendant is not the main accused and till now has always appeared ( although this can be argued that he really had no choice being in jail ).

My only issue is why our courts cannot apply this same merit on the common man where they are languishing in jail for years where even trial has not even started yet. Why is this merit only afforded to the sharifs and others like them