Is this the right time to Liberate occupied Kashmir?

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یا اللہ ہمارے ایٹمی ہتھیار ہماری سرزمین کو محفوظ بنانے کا ذریعہ بنیں ، جب کہ ہماری مسلح افواج کے شیر مقبوضہ کشمیر کو نیچ ہندو ریاست سے آزاد کرائیں

جب پاکستان کے مسلمان اور ان کی مسلح افواج نے 28 مئی ، یوم تکبیر کو ، دنیا کے واحد مسلم ایٹمی طاقت کے طور پر پاکستان کے عروج کی یاد میں منایا ، مقبوضہ کشمیر میں مسلمانوں کی حالت زار پر انہیں شدید درد محسوس ہوا۔ یہ درد پی ٹی آئی حکومت کے کمزور موقف کے بالکل برعکس ہے۔ اگرچہ یہ موقعہ ایٹمی مسلح ، طاقتور اور خواہش مند مسلح افواج کو تیار رہنے کے حکم کا متغازی ہے ، لیکن حکومت نے خود کو انسانی حقوق کی تنظیم کی نچلی سطح تک گھٹادیا ہے ، جوکہ صرف اقوام متحدہ کو بار بار مودی کی واضح خلاف ورزیوں کے بارے میں انتباہات بھیجتی ہے۔

بس اقوام متحدہ' جس میں پی ٹی آئی کی حکومت کو اعتماد اور بھروسہ ہے' اس کے سوا کیا ہے کہ ایسا ادارہ جو ریاست ہائے متحدہ امریکہ کے اس حق کی بین الاقوامی ضامن بن چکی ہے کہ وہ خود ہی اقوام متحدہ کے چارٹر کے بر خلاف مسلم ممالک پر حملہ کر سکے

جب امریکہ نے عراق اور افغانستان کی سرحدوں کی خلاف ورزی کی تو اقوام متحدہ خاموش اور غیر فعال رہا ۔ اسی طرح ، یہ ادارہ مقبوضہ کشمیر پر ہندو ریاست کے تقریبا ایک سال سے زائد عرصے سے زبردستی تسلّط پر خاموش اور غیر فعال ہے۔ واضح طور پر مغربی ممالک کی ریاست کی سرحدوں کا آئیڈیل اس وقت پرے پھینک دیا جاتا ہے، جب یہ ہندو ریاست اور امریکہ کے عزائم کی راہ میں رکاوٹ ہو' جب کہ یہ رکاوٹ پاکستان کی غیر اندیش حکومت کی طرف سے باقاعدہ پلاننگ کے ذریے ہماری مسلح افواج کے سامنے کھڑی کر دی جاتی ہے جبکہ وہ اللہ کی راہ میں لڑنے کے لئے ان زنجیروں کو توڑنے کے لئے بےتاب ہیں

جب ہندو ریاست چین کے ساتھ آمنے سامنے ہے ، تو ابھی اقدامات کریں ، جب کہ اس کا حامی ، ریاستہائے متحدہ امریکہ ، کورونا وائرس وبائی امراض کے بحران میں الجھا ہوا ہے ، جس نے اس کی معاشی تباہی کو مزید خراب اور جزوی طور پر پوشیدہ کردیا۔ مقبوضہ کشمیر میں مجاہدین کو مسلح اور منظم کرنے کے لئے ابھی اقدامات کریں ، مقبوضہ افغانستان کو سوویت روس سے آزاد کروانے کے دور سے اپنے ادارہ جاتی تجربے پر روشنی ڈالو ، جو منقسم ، منحرف ہندو مسلح افواج سے کہیں زیادہ قابل دشمن تھا۔ بڑے پیمانے پر مسلح افواج کو متحرک کرنے کے لئے ایک تباہ کن منصوبہ تیار کرنے کے لئے ابھی اقدامات کریں ، اور اس چمک کی اس جھلک کو دوبارہ زندہ کریں جس کا ہم نے فروری 2019 میں مشاہدہ کیا تھا ، جو سرینگر میں فتح کی تکبیرات کی آواز آنے تک نہیں رکے گا ، نئی دہلی میں پھر گونج اٹھے گا۔ ابھی اقدام کریں اور آپ کو جان و مال کی کوئی کمی نہیں ہوگی ، کیونکہ پوری اسلامی امت آپ کے ساتھ ہوگی ، اس کی ڈھال خلافت کی تباہی کے بعد کئی دہائیوں کی رسوائی کے بعد ، اس کے دشمنوں کے خلاف آپ کی لاتعداد پیشرفت پر خوشی ہوگی۔ تمام مادی صلاحیتوں سے بالاتر ہوکر ابھی اقدامات کریں ، جو آپ کو تمام مخلوق کے رب نے کثرت سے عطا کیا ہے


(Qur'an 3:160) إِن يَنصُرْكُمُ اللَّهُ فَلَا غَالِبَ لَكُمْ ۖ وَإِن يَخْذُلْكُمْ فَمَن ذَا الَّذِي يَنصُرُكُم مِّن بَعْدِهِ ۗ وَعَلَى اللَّهِ فَلْيَتَوَكَّلِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ​
If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let believers put their trust.
اگر الله تمہاری مدد کرے گا تو تم پر کوئی غالب نہ ہوسکے گا اور اگر اس نے مدد چھوڑ دی تو پھر ایسا کون ہے جو اس کے بعد تمہاری مدد کر سکے اور مسلمانوں کو الله ہی پر بھروسہ کرنا چاہیے
 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We will always keep delaying it saying our economy is not doing well. Now is the right time as any since independence. No matter what many people will die whenever the war happens coz India is never gonna give it to us willingly.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We have no money to pay back our loans. We cannot even afford treatment plants for 90% of our sewerage. And you want to go to war with a country with 7 times more men, 10 times bigger economy with a larger manufacturing base.

What kind of mad dog has bitten you?


We will always keep delaying it saying our economy is not doing well. Now is the right time as any since independence. No matter what many people will die whenever the war happens coz India is never gonna give it to us willingly.
 

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Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ تو مکر کی انتہا ہو گی
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پیغمبر خدا نے تیئس سالوں میں تبلیغ کے زور پر سارا عرب مسلمان کر لیا ، ہندوستانی مسلمان ستر سالوں میں مسلمانوں کا تناسب ایک فیصد نہ بڑھا سکے (شرح پیدائش کی بات نہیں ہو رہی ) ، پیغمبر اسلام کے وصی مولا علی نے بھی تبلیغ کے زور پر یمن اور کئی علاقے مسلمان کر لئے تھے
عبدالله شاہ غازی نے بر صغیر میں اسلام پوھنچایا ، رسول پاک اور ان کے راستے پر چلنے والوں پر درود و سلام ہو
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اب بھی آپ سوچتے ہیں کہ اسلام تلوار کے زور پر پھیلایا جا سکتا ہے ؟
آپ کا قصور نہیں ہے ویسے
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انصاری جی ! دسو یار اینہاں نوں
atensari
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We have no money to pay back our loans. We cannot even afford treatment plants for 90% of our sewerage. And you want to go to war with a country with 7 times more men, 10 times bigger economy with a larger manufacturing base.

What kind of mad dog has bitten you?

Retards and money worshippers like you don't understand the power of faith and patriotism. Firstly look at the many divisions and problems in India. Look at how Afghanistan has rubbed the nose of the Americans over the past 20 years. They defeated a much stronger enemy with nothing at all. Manufacturing and other rubbish you are talking about has nothing to do with war once it starts it takes on a life of it's own and circumstances develop accordingly. If foolish people like you were around 1947 we'd still be waiting for Pak to come in to creation as circumstances would not be right for fkn idiots like you!! You'd still be waiting for the situation of Muslim's to improve and for the Hindu's to give their blessings then parting ways with a friendly handshake. There is never a right time to go to war, people and economies adjust too it. If India were to attack us cowards like you...yes cowards like you would beg them to make peace coz our economy is poor. You'd be shitting and pissing in your pants waiting for the economy to improve when the enemy drives their tanks in to Islamabad. I know cowards when I listen to them. You'd be waiting for the next 100 years to liberate Kashmir so that the economy improves. There is never a right time for cowards to do anything other then make excuses. If Kashmiris as we claim are our people then we must fight for them now otherwise they have no reason wanting to merge with Pakistan. Millions of Kashmiris are already furious with Pak for not doing anything and you are worried about the economy! I am sure your views would be very different if your sisters were stuck in IoK surrounded by Indian soldiers.
 
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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your ignorance of world history and warfare is astounding.

Pakistan and India came into existence not because of faith but because of Roosevelt twisting Churchill arm. Roosevelt asked for independence of India and Pakistan in return for US joining war against Germany which UK desperately needed.

Faith has nothing to do with war, even Prophet Muhammad lost in Uhad when his soldiers did not follow proper procedure.

In modern war, manufacturing is everything, this is how Russia Defeated Germany. They out manufactured them in tanks, aircraft and artillery. I do not know if you have been up to date but stones and sticks are no longer used in wars.

Its uneducated mindset like this that led to disastrous wars in Pakistan's past. Too much importance given to faith, too little importance on logic and reasoning.

What happened to faith when millions of Muslim women were raped by mongols and mountains were made out of their skulls from Afghanistan to Palestine. Do you not learn from history or has someone robbed you of your brains?

Russians did not lose militarily in Afghanistan. There were 14,000 Soviet deaths against 50,000+ mujaheddin killed. Russians did not even exert their full power of tanks airplanes, not even talking about nukes.

If we had the means of taking Kashmir we would have it by now. But after 3 wars we were unsuccessful maybe its time to try a different strategy rather than attempting to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result.


Retards and money worshippers like you don't understand the power of faith and patriotism. Firstly look at the many divisions and problems in India. Look at how Afghanistan has rubbed the nose of the Americans over the past 20 years. They defeated a much stronger enemy with nothing at all. Manufacturing and other rubbish you are talking about has nothing to do with war once it starts it takes on a life of it's own and circumstances develop accordingly. If foolish people like you were around 1947 we'd still be waiting for Pak to come in to creation as circumstances would not be right for fkn idiots like you!! You'd still be waiting for the situation of Muslim's to improve and for the Hindu's to give their blessings then parting ways with a friendly handshake. There is never a right time to go to war, people and economies adjust too it. If India were to attack us cowards like you...yes cowards like you would beg them to make peace coz our economy is poor. You'd be shitting and pissing in your pants waiting for the economy to improve when the enemy drives their tanks in to Islamabad. I know cowards when I listen to them. You'd be waiting for the next 100 years to liberate Kashmir so that the economy improves. There is never a right time for cowards to do anything other then make excuses. If Kashmiris as we claim are our people then we must fight for them now otherwise they have no reason wanting to merge with Pakistan. Millions of Kashmiris are already furious with Pak for not doing anything and you are worried about the economy! I am sure your views would be very different if your sisters were stuck in IoK surrounded by Indian soldiers.
 
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Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Take your time and see where china and india conflict goes. PK itself is a corrupt regime where sood is like wildfire, corruption is still rapid, injustice courts are a joke, poverty, crap economy the list goes on.

You need money to fight wars, pk is too busy borrowing money to keep afloat alsi asking for lians to be written off.
Does the pk army have a strategy too take kashmir and once taken too withold it from an indian assault.

Then if pk and india go into a full scale conflict what implications will it have regionally and worldwide. There is US and Isreal that will back India against Pakistan in order for pk to become weaker than it is. Also there are chances if a nuclear war if a nuclear lands in Pakistan then you can kiss goodbye to pk, what implicatuons will that have on pk people?

Do not get me wrong pk should help kashmir muslims from the oppresive regime of INDIA/modi.

US and Isreal will want sooner or later want a conflict to take place, so that the whole region becomes in fire. Isreal will benefit moSt from a weak Pakistan.

Wait let modi make a move he is a walking time bomb, there is no point going into a war if Pakistan does not have a plan to take kashmir, if both india and pk are gonna bomb each other and no kashmir resolve then it is waste of time. How long will pk have until there weaponary runs out?

May Allah swt forgive me for saying anything wrong.
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your ignorance of world history and warfare is astounding.

Pakistan and India came into existence not because of faith but because of Roosevelt twisting Churchill arm. Roosevelt asked for independence of India and Pakistan in return for US joining war against Germany which UK desperately needed.

Faith has nothing to do with war, even Prophet Muhammad lost in Uhad when his soldiers did not follow proper procedure.

In modern war, manufacturing is everything, this is how Russia Defeated Germany. They out manufactured them in tanks, aircraft and artillery. I do not know if you have been up to date but stones and sticks are no longer used in wars.

Its uneducated mindset like this that led to disastrous wars in Pakistan's past. Too much importance given to faith, too little importance on logic and reasoning.

What happened to faith when millions of Muslim women were raped by mongols and mountains were made out of their skulls from Afghanistan to Palestine. Do you not learn from history or has someone robbed you of your brains?

Russians did not lose militarily in Afghanistan. There were 14,000 Soviet deaths against 50,000+ mujaheddin killed. Russians did not even exert their full power of tanks airplanes, not even talking about nukes.

If we had the means of taking Kashmir we would have it by now. But after 3 wars we were unsuccessful maybe its time to try a different strategy rather than attempting to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result.


It is shocking how stupid you are that even a monkey is wiser! Of course Pak came in to existence in the name of Islam otherwise there was no need for it to be so. Keep the Churchill shit and stories to yourself!

From where I am standing the Afghans have defeated both the old USSR and America is well with very modest weapons. This is a fact that no sane person can deny. It is bravery at it's best that a pacifist and coward won't understand.

Faith has everything to do with war. This is not to suggest that it guarantees victory but just picking up a rifle requires courage. Obviously you no nothing about it like many other things.

To fools like you logic is waiting for the enemy to attack! To always be on the defensive shaking in your boots in the name of peace mongering. As I say so pathetic are you that you will seek talks when the enemy is attacking us openly just like your coward PM Imran Khan. So we should do nothing for the Kashmiris then keep talking rubbish? Even IK's weekly protests in Islamabad have now ended. Each war is different although I agree getting involved in the Afghanistan one after 9/11 was a mistake.

How thick is your brain or do you even have one? Every war is different and as I stated faith does not guarantee victory however here we claim Kashmir as being part of Pakistan so are morally obliged to fight for it. You can't compare this situation to various Arab wars pee brains! Faith or Jihad like it or not is an integral part Islam. Lets stick to the Kashmir situation here, the Palestine one is a different thing altogether. I by and large agree that we should not get involved in Arab wars unless they help us.

Russians lost and that is a fact. Not only that but the whole USSR went crashing afterwards as well much to your annoyance. How much did you cry that day?? No one stopped the Russians from using whatever they wanted when they entered the Afghanistan to occupy it for centuries. So they lost heart and the will to remain there knowing the Afghans would continue killing them. We had to get involved not outta choice but compulsion when the Russians were ready to cross over in to Pak. What world do you live in with your rubbish!!?

The only way to liberate IoK is war I am afraid. We'll lose our Kashmir as well if we have pacifist defence advisors like you for goodness sake who know nothing! You'd give India our Kashmir then boast about having made peace with them. We will need the help of other Muslim armies to defeat a much larger one hence the Ghazwa-e-Hind prophecy. Now you will start refuting that as well.
 
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Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Hum log awein hi Kashmir ke mamay banay huway hai, Kashmiris don't want anything to with Pakistan, they want an independent Kashmir.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
It is shocking how stupid you are that even a monkey is wiser! Of course Pak came in to existence in the name of Islam otherwise there was no need for it to be so. Keep the Churchill shit and stories to yourself!

From where I am standing the Afghans have defeated both the old USSR and America is well with very modest weapons. This is a fact that no sane person can deny. It is bravery at it's best that a pacifist and coward won't understand.

Faith has everything to do with war. This is not to suggest that it guarantees victory but just picking up a rifle requires courage. Obviously you no nothing about it like many other things.

To fools like you logic is waiting for the enemy to attack! To always be on the defensive shaking in your boots in the name of peace mongering. As I say so pathetic are you that you will seek talks when the enemy is attacking us openly just like your coward PM Imran Khan. So we should do nothing for the Kashmiris then keep talking rubbish? Even IK's weekly protests in Islamabad have now ended. Each war is different although I agree getting involved in the Afghanistan one after 9/11 was a mistake.

How thick is your brain or do you even have one? Every war is different and as I stated faith does not guarantee victory however here we claim Kashmir as being part of Pakistan so are morally obliged to fight for it. You can't compare this situation to various Arab wars pee brains! Faith or Jihad like it or not is an integral part Islam. Lets stick to the Kashmir situation here, the Palestine one is a different thing altogether. I by and large agree that we should not get involved in Arab wars unless they help us.

Russians lost and that is a fact. Not only that but the whole USSR went crashing afterwards as well much to your annoyance. How much did you cry that day?? No one stopped the Russians from using whatever they wanted when they entered the Afghanistan to occupy it for centuries. So they lost heart and the will to remain there knowing the Afghans would continue killing them. We had to get involved not outta choice but compulsion when the Russians were ready to cross over in to Pak. What world do you live in with your rubbish!!?

The only way to liberate IoK is war I am afraid. We'll lose our Kashmir as well if we have pacifist defence advisors like you for goodness sake who know nothing! You'd give India our Kashmir then boast about having made peace with them. We will need the help of other Muslim armies to defeat a much larger one hence the Ghazwa-e-Hind prophecy. Now you will start refuting that as well.
Baba I knew you grew up drinking the Kool Aid of Pakistani propaganda of Kashmir hamara hai blah blah like most Pakistanis but use your little brain also sometimes.

How did Pakistan gain its independence? Some "Islami Biradar Mulk" came and fought a war with the British and liberated us? No an honest leader arose and rallied the people under him and fought on the diplomatic front without firing even one shot. And this is the reason why both Kashmir and Palestine are still occupied. All they have had is corrupt leaders till now.

Also don't take Imran Khans politics on Kashmir too seriously, He has to do that on the international stage because that is India's soft belly and to counter Indias propaganda against Pakistan.

Also Gazwa Hind came and went, what do you think India being ruled by Muslims until just 200 years ago was? How are there half a billion Muslims today in the Indian subcontinent.

So yeah stop knee jerking and start using your critical thinking skills
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Baba I knew you grew up drinking the Kool Aid of Pakistani propaganda of Kashmir hamara hai blah blah like most Pakistanis but use your little brain also sometimes.

How did Pakistan gain its independence? Some "Islami Biradar Mulk" came and fought a war with the British and liberated us? No an honest leader arose and rallied the people under him and fought on the diplomatic front without firing even one shot. And this is the reason why both Kashmir and Palestine are still occupied. All they have had is corrupt leaders till now.

Also don't take Imran Khans politics on Kashmir too seriously, He has to do that on the international stage because that is India's soft belly and to counter Indias propaganda against Pakistan.

Also Gazwa Hind came and went, what do you think India being ruled by Muslims until just 200 years ago was? How are there half a billion Muslims today in the Indian subcontinent.

So yeah stop knee jerking and start using your critical thinking skills

Did you piss in your pants all night long like cowards do retard!!? M A Jinnah was the one who gave us independence for fk sake what world do you live in dumbass! So what are you saying that we attained independence bu fluke, I think you too are a piss drinker Pak wannbe!

So I agree with you that IK is a coward who came in to power by lying as well. All the pre election promises he made were as much lies as Nawaz or Zardari. I supported him at the time but now realize he's another woos and sissy! I knew all along that IK is more interested in wooing Indian chicks then liberating Kashmir meaning the military may have to over rule him.

Ghazwa-e-Hind is a different matter to Muslim's ruling India for centuries. It speaks of many Muslim countries joining Pak in this war then heading to the Middle East to liberate Palestine, this is still to happen. It also tells us that initially India may conquer some Pak land in a war that will last six years. This is still to happen. Try using your head for once or buy a good one in the market! Muslims are gonna rule India again, it has little to do with so many Muslims in the sbcontinent at present you clown. Stick to Kashmir that is the subject here, not Palestine. Let the Arabs worry about the latter.
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hum log awein hi Kashmir ke mamay banay huway hai, Kashmiris don't want anything to with Pakistan, they want an independent Kashmir.

I am happy for them to be given complete independence. Only thing is that the Kashmiris living in Pak but leave the country. They can not have it both way and if they do not want to be part of Pak then we should officially declare we'll no longer be supporting them in any way.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Did you piss in your pants all night long like cowards do retard!!? M A Jinnah was the one who gave us independence for fk sake what world do you live in dumbass! So what are you saying that we attained independence bu fluke, I think you too are a piss drinker Pak wannbe!
Go get some English reading and comprehension lessons first little boy. Who the hell do you think I was referring to when I said an honest leader arose, should I known I was talking to a 6 year old child .


it speaks of many Muslim countries joining Pak in this war
? ? ? ? ? ? ? So according to you there is some hadith in which Pakistan will be joined by many countries blah blah blah .....??????????
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
I am happy for them to be given complete independence. Only thing is that the Kashmiris living in Pak but leave the country. They can not have it both way and if they do not want to be part of Pak then we should officially declare we'll no longer be supporting them in any way.
Baba then they also want Kashmir which is in Pakistan right now, GB. Deosai plains and so on and so forth. Which will cut off Pakistans border to China, then kiss CPEC good bye.

Grown up little boy, learn a thing or two about history, Don't just be jizzing, frothing at the mouth and knee jerking all the time.

The current status quo suits both countries thats why its a status quo
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Baba then they also want Kashmir which is in Pakistan right now, GB. Deosai plains and so on and so forth. Which will cut off Pakistans border to China, then kiss CPEC good bye.

Grown up little boy, learn a thing or two about history, Don't just be jizzing, frothing at the mouth and knee jerking all the time.

The current status quo suits both countries thats why its a status quo

We need to ask our Kashmiris what they want. Those in IoK may want complete independence but there is nothing to suggest AJK does too. We need to firstly explain that India will fake independence then invade the entire valley once Pak pulls out. I really think you are a baby of sorts who knows very little about the world. Really kid how old are you? Be honest. Have you ever been abroad in your life coz you really are an embarrassment here. Think before you write or join a kid's forum. I am a passionate man which reflects in my mails. No it does not suit us watching Kashmiris being killed you idiot! Bewakoof!
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Go get some English reading and comprehension lessons first little boy. Who the hell do you think I was referring to when I said an honest leader arose, should I known I was talking to a 6 year old child .



? ? ? ? ? ? ? So according to you there is some hadith in which Pakistan will be joined by many countries blah blah blah .....??????????

Honest leader for me could also be the great Allama Iqbal kid whose idea Pak was before the Quaid became his disciple. You obviously know fk all about Pak history and how the country came about! You just stepped in to it there kid! I am not saying the Quaid was not a great leader however the idea of Pak belongs to Allama Iqbal. If you were to be clearer in your comments I would believe you have left your pram and milk bottle!???

Absolutely, Pak in the Ghazwa-e-Hind will not be alone but joined by Afghanistan, Turkey, Arabs and perhaps the Chinese too. The Quaid practically implemented Dr Iqbal's thought of creating Pakistan, do you understand now pee brains!?
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
We need to ask our Kashmiris what they want. Those in IoK may want complete independence but there is nothing to suggest AJK does too. We need to firstly explain that India will fake independence then invade the entire valley once Pak pulls out. I really think you are a baby of sorts who knows very little about the world. Really kid how old are you? Be honest. Have you ever been abroad in your life coz you really are an embarrassment here. Think before you write or join a kid's forum. I am a passionate man which reflects in my mails. No it does not suit us watching Kashmiris being killed you idiot! Bewakoof!
? ? ? ? LOL what stories you are making up man, first we will do this blah blah blah, then we will do that blah blah, then we will ask xyz for blah blah, then abc will do blah blah. WTH is this some children's backyard game? Bachoo mian this is not how the real world works.

Go outside of Pakistan where ethnic kashmiris reside, in places like the UK and they will tell you exactly. Ethnic Kashmiris lay claim to all of pre partition Kashmir. If you do not know how big that is, go look up a map of pre partion Kashmir. Basically everything north of Sialkot up to the Chinese border.

We are signatories to the UN and we will then have to follow the terms set out in the UN resolution on this issue which if it comes into effect in one way or the other we will have to give up all of Kashmir too.


Honest leader for me could also be the great Allama Iqbal
Thats because you are a dumb ass, even Indians know Iqbal died before independence.


Absolutely, Pak in the Ghazwa-e-Hind will not be alone but joined by Afghanistan, Turkey, Arabs and perhaps the Chinese too
LOOOOL Please bring me this hadith, any hadith even a dhaief, no forget dhaief bring me a totally mawdu hadith about Pakistan and Gizwa e hind!

FYI : Puttar I'm probably older than your dad at almost 45 years of age, majority of which were spent outside of Pakistan, even while I write this, I'm not in Pakistan.

Boy grow up first until you are old enough to wear big boy pants and have learned a thing or two before you go off running off your mouth.

P.S : Waiting for you to post the hadith about Pakistan and Gizwa e hind etc etc
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
? ? ? ? LOL what stories you are making up man, first we will do this blah blah blah, then we will do that blah blah, then we will ask xyz for blah blah, then abc will do blah blah. WTH is this some children's backyard game? Bachoo mian this is not how the real world works.

Go outside of Pakistan where ethnic kashmiris reside, in places like the UK and they will tell you exactly. Ethnic Kashmiris lay claim to all of pre partition Kashmir. If you do not know how big that is, go look up a map of pre partion Kashmir. Basically everything north of Sialkot up to the Chinese border.

We are signatories to the UN and we will then have to follow the terms set out in the UN resolution on this issue which if it comes into effect in one way or the other we will have to give up all of Kashmir too.



Thats because you are a dumb ass, even Indians know Iqbal died before independence.



LOOOOL Please bring me this hadith, any hadith even a dhaief, no forget dhaief bring me a totally mawdu hadith about Pakistan and Gizwa e hind!

FYI : Puttar I'm probably older than your dad at almost 45 years of age, majority of which were spent outside of Pakistan, even while I write this, I'm not in Pakistan.

Boy grow up first until you are old enough to wear big boy pants and have learned a thing or two before you go off running off your mouth.

P.S : Waiting for you to post the hadith about Pakistan and Gizwa e hind etc etc

You should be awarded for being the greatest dumb ass ever!!?? The real world that you are talking about ghade is all about might is right! America did not ask the UN when it invaded Afghanistan. When Muslim's are strong we will make our own rules as well kid, you can keep waiting for the UN to intervene sleeping in your pram.

I have been o the UK many times kid and can tell you then Kashmiri community have two opinions. One is independence and the other is to join Pakistan so stick your ancient map that doesn't mean anything up your ass boy!!?? Never mind what we signed,such so called rules are broken by America every day, we just need to do the same as well. Mr Retard I did not say that Iqbal witnessed to see Pakistan come in to existence rather that a Pakistan was his idea! Then again reading your drivel I realise that you are writing from your pram!

Beta my son I am not disclosing my age at all so rest easy. Your Dad would surely be embarrassed to have a thick son like you so think off him if nothing else before writing bullshit! The hadiths are many for those who have eyes, no matter what I provide you will not believe because a man born blind recognizes no colou so stop making an ass of yourself.

I have lost hope of you ever growing up, you are a lost cause who will never learn. I only feel sorry for those who tried to teach you if you ever attended school that his. Allah have mercy on your teachers for having such a thick student. I pity you, I really do. As you do not know how to copy and paste I will post just one Ghazwa-e-Hind video here okay beta!