Is this what Fazlurehman was referring to?

[Will_Bite]

I remember when Fazlurehman called off his failed dharna, he was asked what he achieved from the exercise. And his response, along with a cunning smile was, "hum khali haath wapis nahin aye".

It seems like this verdict against Musharraf was what he was referring to. Perhaps someone told him that this verdict would be given, in an attempt to break the morale of the armed forces, and that would result in a weakened government, and as a result, the opposition would be in a stronger position to topple the govt. Seems like this news was leaked out by the judges to be fed to fazlurehman, in order to launch a combined 'strike' against the govt and army.

But as we have it, things seem to have backfired for both.....specifically the judiciary. The judiciary is reeling from the ignominy of the attack on PIC by their lawyers, and in the absence of any real criticism from the judges, the judiciary has drawn a lot of criticism and disgust towards them. This , combined with an overall lack of any meaningful decisions by the judiciary have resulted in the department being mocked openly. The number of lawyers that have openly called this judgement flat out 'wrong' is increasing daily. Everyone knows this verdict has no legs to stand on, and will be reversed, either on appeal, or by a presidential pardon.

The fact that the judges are happy to give a death sentence to a person on his death bed in a hospital, and a medical bail to walking and talking a-holes in Punjab and Sindh, has made them a laughing stock.

 

[concern_paki]

Judiciary is completely exposed

 

[Democratic]

I always knew that you were an idiot and naive youthia but the extent is known only now

 

[Will_Bite]

I always knew that you were an idiot and naive youthia but the extent is known only now

I dont respond to personal insults. If you have a meaningful response, by all means, go ahead.....

 

[mhafeez]

I remember when Fazlurehman called off his failed dharna, he was asked what he achieved from the exercise. And his response, along with a cunning smile was, "hum khali haath wapis nahin aye".

It seems like this verdict against Musharraf was what he was referring to. Perhaps someone told him that this verdict would be given, in an attempt to break the morale of the armed forces, and that would result in a weakened government, and as a result, the opposition would be in a stronger position to topple the govt. Seems like this news was leaked out by the judges to be fed to fazlurehman, in order to launch a combined 'strike' against the govt and army.

But as we have it, things seem to have backfired for both.....specifically the judiciary. The judiciary is reeling from the ignominy of the attack on PIC by their lawyers, and in the absence of any real criticism from the judges, the judiciary has drawn a lot of criticism and disgust towards them. This , combined with an overall lack of any meaningful decisions by the judiciary have resulted in the department being mocked openly. The number of lawyers that have openly called this judgement flat out 'wrong' is increasing daily. Everyone knows this verdict has no legs to stand on, and will be reversed, either on appeal, or by a presidential pardon.

The fact that the judges are happy to give a death sentence to a person on his death bed in a hospital, and a medical bail to walking and talking a-holes in Punjab and Sindh, has made them a laughing stock.

جسٹس کھوسہ نے کہا ہے کہ ایکسٹنشن والے فیصلے کے بھی دوررس تنائج نکلیں گے ، کچھ دنوں میں پتا چلے گا

 

[Lone_Fighter]

You are right. I had the same thing in mind. Fazal Ur Rahman was probably counting on it, but in the current situation after the PIC incident this is badly backfired.

Don't forget that the Extension matter was the first step towards weakening the govt.

 

[Will_Bite]

جسٹس کھوسہ نے کہا ہے کہ ایکسٹنشن والے فیصلے کے بھی دوررس تنائج نکلیں گے ، کچھ دنوں میں پتا چلے گا

So is it safe to say that the judiciary was complicit with Fazlurehman, and shared with him privileged information? The judiciary is turning itself into a mockery.

I just read the news about Justice Khosa talking about having 'sped up' Musharrafs case. He has some answering to do.

As for the extension, if the opposition doesnt engage the govt, it will make it clear that the opposition and judiciary, in cahoots, are trying to find petty ways to malign the forces. It would be a huge misfire it that happens.

 

[Will_Bite]

You are right. I had the same thing in mind. Fazal Ur Rahman was probably counting on it, but in the current situation after the PIC incident this is badly backfired.

Don't forget that the Extension matter was the first step towards weakening the govt.

If Fazlurehman was counting on it, he was obviously told this by the judges. Which makes it a major breach.

 

[Oldwish]

Youthias gone mad but the question should be, are these really youthias?
Imran Khan himself was against and stated Musharraf ke khilaf gadari ka makadima banta hy. Imran khan also spoke about Lal masjid brutality. But today youthias are gone mad in the love of Musharraf.
What to say, PTI support people like Musharraf ? or people like Musharraf support PTI?

 

[mhafeez]

So is it safe to say that the judiciary was complicit with Fazlurehman, and shared with him privileged information? The judiciary is turning itself into a mockery.

I just read the news about Justice Khosa talking about having 'sped up' Musharrafs case. He has some answering to do.

As for the extension, if the opposition doesnt engage the govt, it will make it clear that the opposition and judiciary, in cahoots, are trying to find petty ways to malign the forces. It would be a huge misfire it that happens.

یہ بات تو ہم پچھلے چار سال سے کہہ رہے ہیں ، یہ عدالت فضل الرحمٰن کے ساتھ نہیں کھڑی تھی بلکہ ان لوگوں کے اشارے پر چلتی ہے جنہوں نے فضل الرحمٰن کو اسلامآباد بھیجا آج بھی اور نواز شریف کے خلاف بھی ، سیاستدانوں کو آپس میں مضبوط ہوکر ان لوگوں کا راستہ روکنا چاہیے یا دوسرے الفاظ میں ووٹ کو عزت دینی چاہیے ​

 

[mhafeez]

If Fazlurehman was counting on it, he was obviously told this by the judges. Which makes it a major breach.

فضل الرحمٰن کو ججز نے نہیں بلکہ ان لوگوں نے بتایا جو شیخ رشید کے مطابق اس سے رابطے میں تھے اور جنھیں بات سلیقہ آتا ہے اور مولانا سے جب پوچھا جاتا تھا تو وہ کہتا تھا کہ وہ آتے ہیں اور مزید شاباش دے کر جاتے ہیں​

 

[Will_Bite]

یہ بات تو ہم پچھلے چار سال سے کہہ رہے ہیں ، یہ عدالت فضل الرحمٰن کے ساتھ نہیں کھڑی تھی بلکہ ان لوگوں کے اشارے پر چلتی ہے جنہوں نے فضل الرحمٰن کو اسلامآباد بھیجا آج بھی اور نواز شریف کے خلاف بھی ، سیاستدانوں کو آپس میں مضبوط ہوکر ان لوگوں کا راستہ روکنا چاہیے یا دوسرے الفاظ میں ووٹ کو عزت دینی چاہیے ​

Samajh nahi ayee bhai.
If judiciary wasnt in cahoots with him, then how did this info get shared with him? And who are you referring to when you talk about the people who 'sent Fazlurehman to Islamabad'? A little clarity would be nice.

 

[Lone_Fighter]

فضل الرحمٰن کو ججز نے نہیں بلکہ ان لوگوں نے بتایا جو شیخ رشید کے مطابق اس سے رابطے میں تھے اور جنھیں بات سلیقہ آتا ہے اور مولانا سے جب پوچھا جاتا تھا تو وہ کہتا تھا کہ وہ آتے ہیں اور مزید شاباش دے کر جاتے ہیں​

Samajh nahi ayee bhai.
If judiciary wasnt in cahoots with him, then how did this info get shared with him? And who are you referring to when you talk about the people who 'sent Fazlurehman to Islamabad'? A little clarity would be nice.

mhafeez
Vote ko Izzat ka naara laganay walay toh Platellets ka bahana le kar NRO kar k chal diye hai. Masla hi yahi hai k yeh masla vote ko izzat ka nhi Iqtedar ko izzat dene ka hai, jiskay liye Nawaz Sharif, Zardari aur Fazal Ur rahman tayar betay rehtay hai.

 

[jee_nee_us]

Jaan boojh ker saazish ke tehet iss mulk ki corrupt adlia foje ko insult ker rehee he. Musharraf ko kisi bhi ilzaam per sazae mote di ja sakti he lekin ghaddari per? Bhai 3 jangain lerne wala aik ghaddar he? Mulki salamti ke raaz afsha kerne waale clutch plates serhne la bahana ker ke mulk ke baaher paaye naan kha rahe hen.

 

[mhafeez]

Samajh nahi ayee bhai.
If judiciary wasnt in cahoots with him, then how did this info get shared with him? And who are you referring to when you talk about the people who 'sent Fazlurehman to Islamabad'? A little clarity would be nice.

These are the persons in the ranks who are not happy with the extension, with extension they will be extincted.

 

[Will_Bite]

These are the persons in the ranks who are not happy with the extension, with extension they will be extincted.

The field of candidates for COAS post is 1 or 2 officers at best. The senior most generally gets the nod. So im not sure why you are making it sound as if a large number of officers will be affected by an extension to Bajwa.
Secondly, army is a disciplined force, with a proper infrastructure and rules. Dont equate their behavior with that of civil servants.