Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Threads - Collection

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

Admin do not merge thread, I have already asked Adeel to If you want to move threads, move it after 2 days of inactivity!


 
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khanaman

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

Awesome programme. All the key questions were raised and really well answered by Ghamdi Sb.
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

These points are not dealt before by Ahmed Pervez sb, topic is Fikr e Javed Ghamidi...
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

Good points that have already been dealt with by allaama parwez similarly. This is why aqeedah ki bunyaad hi ghalat hai jo nayee daryaaft se rok deta hai aur yahee islam ke khilaf gehri saazish hai. abhi yeh saazish logoon per wazeh nahin hui.

http://www.parwez.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=844&Itemid=41

I have listen criticism of Javed Ghamidi and others on Pervez sb, does Talu e Islam have answer to those criticism especially of Ghamidi sahib, Im willing to listen, please only share reply (Answer) to criticism.... here are two videos.....


 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

People like watching him on TV, what else choice TV channels got? :(
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

I hope you did not miss the discussion threads dear indigo wherein I explained the difference and the reason behind it. ghamdi bhai was wrong in criticising parwez sb marhoom because of not realising how the arabic language came about and why the word have the meanings that they have. Only and only parwez sb realised this fact and dealt with it.

Ghamdi sb gives importance to grammar just like molavi sahibaan not realising that grammar does not decide meanings of the words rather it tries to make sense how the language works and tries to extract rules and the study finds that no language follows grammatical rules 100%. There are ample exceptions to grammatical rules in all languages but these are special studies which are beyond scope of general public and even most scholars.

To realise the degree to which parwez sb studied the quran one has to listen to his lectures and read his book. I never came across a scholar of that calibre. Of course ghamdi is also realising things as time goes on because he too is an independent thinker and that is the basic requirement for true scholar but scholar is also a human and grow from knowing nothing to whatever one gathers in one's life time. All great thinkers and leaders including prophets were born children.

This however does not mean that parwez sb got everything right, he too stuck with traditional views where he did not understand thing any better just like sir syed, farahi, iqbal etc. We all do that because we are born in a an existing environment and we stay in it always and only change what we can and the rest remains as it is ie rome was not built in a day.

So if you want to know anything about views of parwez sb you can listen to his lectures and read his books, they are best ones available because they deal with so many different issues very nicely that others fear taking on eg look at molvies changing their stance on pooja paat by saying islam is nor pooja paat but they condemned parwez several decades back for saying these things. Today they want worldly educattion but they condemned sir syed for telling them that. Ghamdi sb is also target because he talks a lot of sense to which we are not used to.

regards and all the best
 
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indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

reply was very convincing and eye opener, thanks
 

hammad78

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sb. ki Fikr per Guftagu- Saleem Safi ke Sath

Munkir-e-hadees din ba din barhtay he chalay ja rahay hain
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

No need to waste precious time on this man of fitna!
 

enigma_1357

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

No need to waste precious time on this man of fitna!

app logoon key iss attitude ki wajah say haam yeh sam bughat rahey hein. dekhi nahi app nein shias ko bussoon say utaar kar marney ki? khuda key lieyey reham karoo apney oper aur issi ghareeb qoum per. app baat sono aghar oss ki daleel theek nahi laghti to ossay behtar daleel ley aoo. fitna kyoon kehtey ho kissi ko.
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

app logoon key iss attitude ki wajah say haam yeh sam bughat rahey hein. dekhi nahi app nein shias ko bussoon say utaar kar marney ki? khuda key lieyey reham karoo apney oper aur issi ghareeb qoum per. app baat sono aghar oss ki daleel theek nahi laghti to ossay behtar daleel ley aoo. fitna kyoon kehtey ho kissi ko.

Are you nuts? The SHIA killing is absolutely deplorable! Who is saying that is jayez? The killing was done by TTP (who are kharejees, pakistanis but kharijees, funded and brainwashed by militant mindsets).

Problem with Ghamidi is that he distorts the actual facts and tries to preach "enlightened moderation" like Mushy wanted.
 

enigma_1357

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

Are you nuts? The SHIA killing is absolutely deplorable! Who is saying that is jayez? The killing was done by TTP (who are kharejees, pakistanis but kharijees, funded and brainwashed by militant mindsets).

Problem with Ghamidi is that he distorts the actual facts and tries to preach "enlightened moderation" like Mushy wanted.

Mind your language man. no need to be furious. he always talks with Quran and Hadith. he presents his point of view with strong arguments. ppl blame him but fail to counter his arguments. I request you come up stronger arguments and counter him rather than calling him fitna.
 

seekers

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

i am agree with ghamdi policy about madresas. all madresa should be start from college level not before age of 15
 

great30

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Musalman, Ger Muslim aur Kafir - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ,Must Watch.

No need to waste precious time on this man of fitna!

fitna??? good job! if you don't like someone's opinion just label him as a fitna or kafir or something. I mean, Why can't we disagree politely in our society? Ghamidi is one of the greatest scholar of the present times and we should feel lucky that we had someone who is making it easier to understand Islam unlike other so called mullas who likes to make things more complicated and because of them we are where we are right now!
 
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