hamdani

Councller (250+ posts)

Casting Doubt On The Patriotism Of Overseas Pakistanis Is Gross Injustice: Altaf Hussain
Appeals to the Chief Justice of Pakistan and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on dual nationality
Political parties should also reconsider their stance on the issue of dual nationality
The Founder and Leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) Mr Altaf Hussain has said that casting doubt on the patriotism of overseas Pakistanis and disallowing them to take part in the elections was gross injustice. He appealed to the Chief Justice of Pakistan Mr Justice Iftakhar Muhammad Chaudhry and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on the issue of dual nationality in the larger interest of the country and the nation.
He also called upon other political parties to reconsider their stance on the dual nationality. He said that the president of Pakistan should hold a referendum on the issue of dual nationality and Pakistanis living in foreign countries should be asked if they wanted to take part in elections and exercise their right to vote.
Mr Hussain expressed these views at a meeting in Lal Qila Ground in Azizabad that was specifically convened on the issue of dual nationality. Deputy Conveners and members of the Co-ordination Committee, Senators, MNAs, MPAs, ministers, office-bearers of various organizational wings, members of resident committees, members of the council of professionals and in-charges of Karachi sectors were present in the meeting.
Addressing political leaders, analysts, lawyers, judges, and people from different spheres of life, Mr Hussain presented the case of overseas Pakistanis having dual nationalities in a forceful manner by giving cogent arguments and references. He invited everyone to think on the issue of dual nationality.
Mr Hussain said that he was expressing the sentiments of hundreds of thousands of Overseas Pakistanis who always pray for Pakistan in difficult times and making efforts for their country. These Pakistanis celebrate 23rd March and 14th August wherever they be throughout the world including Europe and the United States.
He said that Pakistanis living abroad had to go out because of force of circumstances. They got education and started businesses in foreign countries. These Pakistanis sent huge money to Pakistan in terms of foreign remittances that was the lifeblood of the economy of the country.
He asked if it was not sheer injustice to deprive these Pakistanis from their right of voting and not allowing them to contest elections. He asked what the rationale behind the federal ministry for overseas Pakistanis was if the overseas Pakistanis had nothing to do with Pakistan. He said that the people at the helm of affairs in Pakistan, policy-making institutions and members of the parliament must deliberate on the issue anew.
Mr Hussain asked the audience what they would do if they were forced by the circumstances to leave their city or their country. They replied that they would migrate to other places or countries.
He said that even the Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) had to leave Makkah when the persecution of the infidels increased and life in Makkah was made difficult for him and his companions. He not only left Makkah himself but asked his companions also to leave Makkah. Hence leaving once city or country and settling somewhere else because of circumstances was the way of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).
He asked if someone who was born and raised in Pakistan would become disloyal to Pakistan if they had to acquire dual nationality because of circumstances. He asked if they would be called less loyal to the country where they were born and where their elders were buried.
Mr Hussain asked if the acquisition of dual nationality takes away the right to be the loyal citizen of Pakistan. He asked what the fault of the people was who had to leave their homeland because of the tyranny of martial laws in order to save their lives. He said that even though these people acquired dual nationality yet their hearts continued to beat for their country.
He asked if their loyalty to their country could be called into question just because they had acquired nationality of some other country as well. He asked if it was not equal to ridiculing their patriotism.
He said that not everyone in the country had the same fortune as Nawaz Sharif and his family who were given relief by governments to stay in a palatial abode in Saudi Arabia as a state guest. Had Nawaz Sharif and his family gone to a western country instead of Saudi Arabia, they would have to apply for political asylum after the expiry of their visas.
He said that the MQM workers who were employed in Saudi Arabia were handed over to Pakistani authorities during the ferocious state operation against the MQM. They were subjected to inhuman torture in the custody.
He said that the Supreme Court should also take notice of the fact that if someone is subjected to torture by the state he is left with no other option but to settle in some other country and acquire its citizenship. He said that those who force people to leave their country should also be punished.
Shedding light on the services of overseas Pakistanis, Mr Hussain said that the services rendered overseas Pakistan when the country was devastated by natural disasters were highly praiseworthy.
He said that whenever the economy of the country is in deep troubles, the overseas Pakistan are pleaded to send remittances. He asked what the logic was to bar these Pakistanis to take part in elections when their money was so much needed to support the economy of the country.
He said that the decision to proscribe overseas Pakistani from elections would have far reaching consequences for the country as their love for the country was being ridiculed they were being isolated from the rest of the country.
He said that holding dual nationality was permitted in various other countries as well. He asked if various Pakistanis having dual nationalities were not members of the British Parliament. He asked if the Pakistanis living in foreign countries were prohibited from contesting the election on the same premise, it would be a great national loss as they would not be able to serve Pakistan in an effective manner.
He said that Mrs Sonia Gandhi was the head of the ruling Congress party in India was not Indian by birth, yet she was allowed to take part in the election for the office of the prime minister. Father of the US president Mr Barack Obama was not American by birth, yet Mr Obama was allowed to be the president of the most powerful country of the world.
Mr Hussain argued that the decision of allowing Pakistanis having dual nationality to stand in elections should be left to the people of Pakistan. The decision of the people should be respected if they were willing to elect them by their votes.
He said that the issue should not be looked from the standpoint of differences between the executive and the judiciary. It should be looked into in a broader perspective. He said that the constitution had been amended in the past on several occasions, and it can be changed even today.
He asked the people opposing the dual nationality to reconsider their stance lest they should be forced into exile and settle in some other country because of circumstances. He said that he was well aware of the pain of living in exile as he was himself away from the country for the past 22 years. He assured the overseas Pakistanis that the MQM would continue to raise its voice for their rights at every forum and restore their lawful rights.

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aamirksa

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کسی مینڈک سے تکریر کروا لو ، وہ اس سے اچھی آواز نکا لےگا
 

wadera

Senator (1k+ posts)
Is this a joke? I really hope it is.

How is it anti-Pakistani if we don't allow dual nationals to become our ELECTED representatives?

The fact that they have DUAL nationalities and want to come to power means that they want to have an option to run as soon as it becomes difficult for them in Pakistan. By this argument, why should we give any chance to bhagoras?

If these dual nationals are so KEEN to govern Pakistan then they should show their patriotism by surrendering their other nationality.

Before some half-brain nut comes to argue that over-seas pakistanis contribute to the development of Pakistan through remittance, let me tell you .. no one is doubting them on this claim and in fact we are proud of that. However, this does not mean that they should be able to govern Pakistanis.

Besides Altaf and his followers have really a low IQ. This is obvious from that fact that they are linking the Hijrat by our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) to issue of dual nationals being able to govern and patriotism.

Seriously. . .if anyone had doubts that MQM ppl are uneducated than this is the best example. Shame on this mafia!
 

Rizwan2012

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Its not matter of any injustice, I strongly oppose anyone with dual nationality to be involved Politics in Pakistan see what happened with all those imported Prime ministers in the last 15 years as soon as their government went down they were no more there and just vanished. It is ALTAF HUSSAINS munafiqat he went to UK for kidney treatment (must be a lie) and instead of treatment applied for the British citizenship. He is living in London for the last 2 decades and living on the BHATTA accumulated by his CRONIES in any name some time party fund, some time Jalsa expense, sometime even ZAKAT AND FITRA I know in a local hospital they collected FORCED ZAKAT from the Doctors and and one peon they were asking for Zakat had to Pay FITRA these B.....ds are extortionists and take money in any name. If a person wants a foreign nationality why does he want to play in the politics back home it is like you are trying to go in 2 boats at one time. If someone really wants to get involved in the politics than he should drop his citizenship of the other country showing all the relevant paperwork in that regard and than come to Pakistan and be in it. Overseas Pakistanis LOVE PAKISTAN but there are lots of BLACK SHEEP in the crowd who wants to get the benefits of all sides and make illegal money in Pakistan and run to Canada, Europe or America.
WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OF THESE CORRUPT POLITICIANS TO PLAY THE MUSICAL CHAIR GAME IN PAKISTAN POLITICS WHO EVER IT MAY BE.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is this a joke? I really hope it is.

How is it anti-Pakistani if we don't allow dual nationals to become our ELECTED representatives?

The fact that they have DUAL nationalities and want to come to power means that they want to have an option to run as soon as it becomes difficult for them in Pakistan. By this argument, why should we give any chance to bhagoras?

If these dual nationals are so KEEN to govern Pakistan then they should show their patriotism by surrendering their other nationality.

Before some half-brain nut comes to argue that over-seas pakistanis contribute to the development of Pakistan through remittance, let me tell you .. no one is doubting them on this claim and in fact we are proud of that. However, this does not mean that they should be able to govern Pakistanis.

Besides Altaf and his followers have really a low IQ. This is obvious from that fact that they are linking the Hijrat by our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) to issue of dual nationals being able to govern and patriotism.

Seriously. . .if anyone had doubts that MQM ppl are uneducated than this is the best example. Shame on this mafia!

My friend, question is not wheather they will run questrion is that those and all other Leaders if they acted like good Muslims than it does not matter if they have dual citizenship, so In my humble openion, create good Muslims as your leaders than they will automaticaly do good thing/acts and Pakistan will win, by invoking their citizenship would we stop moron fron taking riens of Pakistan.

So the Question is that if we fired those who have dual citizenship would that action clean the house, the answer is no, so the real question is that how can Pakistan have those leaders who will act like good Muslims, all are corrupt and firing some will not help, they will be replaced by other crooks.

The only solution is to bring those Leaders who will act wisely, honestly and with patriotism, to do ,this, Pakistanis have to create a body of known pious people who than will judge acts of all politicians and fire them and or reward them for their good Muslim action, action that are Islamic, Patriotic, fair, just and supported by most Pakistanis.

And that is my tweo cents worth.

Getting dual citizen Pakistanis out will give the oppertunity to the corrupt ones to bring in more of their croonies and stack the assemblies with thier kind.

This is my two cents worth and i hope that this will be of some help.
 
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Dr Asif

New Member
All political parties to reconsider their stance on the dual nationality?????


Casting doubt on the patriotism of overseas Pakistanis is gross injustice: Altaf Hussain

Appeals to the Chief Justice of Pakistan and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on dual nationality
Political parties should also reconsider their stance on the issue of dual nationality
London: 4[SUP]th[/SUP] October 2012
The Founder and Leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) Mr Altaf Hussain has said that casting doubt on the patriotism of overseas Pakistanis and disallowing them to take part in the elections was gross injustice. He appealed to the Chief Justice of Pakistan Mr Justice Iftakhar Muhammad Chaudhry and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on the issue of dual nationality in the larger interest of the country and the nation.
He also called upon other political parties to reconsider their stance on the dual nationality. He said that the president of Pakistan should hold a referendum on the issue of dual nationality and Pakistanis living in foreign countries should be asked if they wanted to take part in elections and exercise their right to vote.
Mr Hussain expressed these views at a meeting in Lal Qila Ground in Azizabad that was specifically convened on the issue of dual nationality. Deputy Conveners and members of the Co-ordination Committee, Senators, MNAs, MPAs, ministers, office-bearers of various organizational wings, members of resident committees, members of the council of professionals and in-charges of Karachi sectors were present in the meeting.
Addressing political leaders, analysts, lawyers, judges, and people from different spheres of life, Mr Hussain presented the case of overseas Pakistanis having dual nationalities in a forceful manner by giving cogent arguments and references.
Mr Hussain said that he was expressing the sentiments of hundreds of thousands of Overseas Pakistanis who were always praying for Pakistan in difficult times and making efforts for its survival.
He said that Pakistanis living abroad had to go out because of force of circumstances. They got education and started businesses in foreign countries. These Pakistanis sent huge money to Pakistan in terms of foreign remittances that was the lifeblood of the economy of the country.
He asked if it was not sheer injustice to deprive these Pakistanis from their right of voting and not allowing them to contest elections. He asked what the rationale behind the federal ministry for overseas Pakistanis was if the overseas Pakistanis had nothing to do with Pakistan.
He said that even the Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) had to leave Makkah when the persecution of the infidels increased. He not only left Makkah himself but asked his companions also to emigrate.
He asked if someone who was born and raised in Pakistan would become disloyal to Pakistan if they had to acquire dual nationality because of circumstances. He asked if they would be called less loyal to the country where they were born and where their elders were buried.
Mr Hussain asked if the acquisition of dual nationality takes away the right to be the loyal citizen of Pakistan. He asked what the fault of the people was who had to leave their homeland because of the tyranny of martial laws in order to save their lives. He said that even though these people acquired dual nationality yet their hearts continued to beat for their country.
He asked if their loyalty to their country could be called into question just because they had acquired nationality of some other country as well. He asked if it was not equal to ridiculing their patriotism.
He said that holding dual nationality was permitted in various other countries as well. He asked if various Pakistanis having dual nationalities were not members of the British Parliament. He asked if the Pakistanis living in foreign countries were prohibited from contesting the election on the same premise, it would be a great national loss as they would not be able to serve Pakistan in an effective manner.
He said that Mrs Sonia Gandhi was the head of the ruling Congress party in India was not Indian by birth, yet she was allowed to take part in the election for the office of the prime minister. Father of the US president Mr Barack Obama was not American by birth, yet Mr Obama became the president of the most powerful country of the world.
Mr Hussain argued that the decision of allowing Pakistanis having dual nationality to stand in elections should be left to the people of Pakistan. The decision of the people should be respected if they were willing to elect them by their votes.
He said that the issue should not be looked from the standpoint of differences between the executive and the judiciary. It should be looked into in a broader perspective. He said that the constitution had been amended in the past on several occasions, and it can be changed even today.
Mr Hussain assured the overseas Pakistanis that the MQM would continue to raise its voice for their rights at every forum.

What you think(omg)?
Plz Comments....
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
بیرون ملک مقیم پاکستانیوں سے ریفرنڈم کرا لیا جائے کے وہ اس پابندی کو غداری کا الزام سمجھتے ہیں یا وقت کی ضرورت
 

wadera

Senator (1k+ posts)
My friend, question is not wheather they will run questrion is that those and all other Leaders if they acted like good Muslims than it does not matter if they have dual citizenship, so In my humble openion, create good Muslims as your leaders than they will automaticaly do good thing/acts and Pakistan will win, by invoking their citizenship would we stop moron fron taking riens of Pakistan.
If they are such good Muslims and worried about the ummah then why do they need to pledge their loyalty to the queen of england? Please help me understand this simple thing. ....

So the Question is that if we fired those who have dual citizenship would that action clean the house, the answer is no, so the real question is that how can Pakistan have those leaders who will act like good Muslims, all are corrupt and firing some will not help, they will be replaced by other crooks.

well, having dual nationality and ruling the country at the same time is also corruption. Yes, granted other leaders are bad and corrupt BUT I find that those having dual nationality by pledging their allegiance to the queen of england etc are even more corrupt by virtue of their admitted hypocrisy.

The only solution is to bring those Leaders who will act wisely, honestly and with patriotism, to do ,this, Pakistanis have to create a body of known pious people who than will judge acts of all politicians and fire them and or reward them for their good Muslim action, action that are Islamic, Patriotic, fair, just and supported by most Pakistanis.

And that is my tweo cents worth.

Getting dual citizen Pakistanis out will give the oppertunity to the corrupt ones to bring in more of their croonies and stack the assemblies with thier kind.

This is my two cents worth and i hope that this will be of some help.

wow .. what planet are you living on? How will YOU decide who is a good Muslim and not a Good Muslim? What yardstick will you use? Your intention is good but your suggestion is not practical at all.

Utter nonsense .. dual nationals cannot and should not govern Pakistan. If they pledge their loyalty to Queen of England etc .. then they are simply not eligible to govern Pakistanis. Simple as that.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
آپ پاکستان کی بربادی کا سد باب کریں اور پاکستان کے بد ترین دشمن کو تکلیف نہ ہو یہ کیسے ممکن ہے. جو بھی دوغلی شہریت کے حق میں بولے وہ ملک کا سب سے برا بد خواہ ہے
 

Dr Asif

New Member
Mr Justice Iftakhar Muhammad Chaudhry and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on the issue of dual nationality.....


Casting doubt on the patriotism of overseas Pakistanis is gross injustice: Altaf Hussain

Appeals to the Chief Justice of Pakistan and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on dual nationality
Political parties should also reconsider their stance on the issue of dual nationality
London: 4[SUP]th[/SUP] October 2012
The Founder and Leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) Mr Altaf Hussain has said that casting doubt on the patriotism of overseas Pakistanis and disallowing them to take part in the elections was gross injustice. He appealed to the Chief Justice of Pakistan Mr Justice Iftakhar Muhammad Chaudhry and other judges of the Supreme Court to review their judgment on the issue of dual nationality in the larger interest of the country and the nation.
He also called upon other political parties to reconsider their stance on the dual nationality. He said that the president of Pakistan should hold a referendum on the issue of dual nationality and Pakistanis living in foreign countries should be asked if they wanted to take part in elections and exercise their right to vote.
Mr Hussain expressed these views at a meeting in Lal Qila Ground in Azizabad that was specifically convened on the issue of dual nationality. Deputy Conveners and members of the Co-ordination Committee, Senators, MNAs, MPAs, ministers, office-bearers of various organizational wings, members of resident committees, members of the council of professionals and in-charges of Karachi sectors were present in the meeting.
Addressing political leaders, analysts, lawyers, judges, and people from different spheres of life, Mr Hussain presented the case of overseas Pakistanis having dual nationalities in a forceful manner by giving cogent arguments and references.
Mr Hussain said that he was expressing the sentiments of hundreds of thousands of Overseas Pakistanis who were always praying for Pakistan in difficult times and making efforts for its survival.
He said that Pakistanis living abroad had to go out because of force of circumstances. They got education and started businesses in foreign countries. These Pakistanis sent huge money to Pakistan in terms of foreign remittances that was the lifeblood of the economy of the country.
He asked if it was not sheer injustice to deprive these Pakistanis from their right of voting and not allowing them to contest elections. He asked what the rationale behind the federal ministry for overseas Pakistanis was if the overseas Pakistanis had nothing to do with Pakistan.
He said that even the Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) had to leave Makkah when the persecution of the infidels increased. He not only left Makkah himself but asked his companions also to emigrate.
He asked if someone who was born and raised in Pakistan would become disloyal to Pakistan if they had to acquire dual nationality because of circumstances. He asked if they would be called less loyal to the country where they were born and where their elders were buried.
Mr Hussain asked if the acquisition of dual nationality takes away the right to be the loyal citizen of Pakistan. He asked what the fault of the people was who had to leave their homeland because of the tyranny of martial laws in order to save their lives. He said that even though these people acquired dual nationality yet their hearts continued to beat for their country.
He asked if their loyalty to their country could be called into question just because they had acquired nationality of some other country as well. He asked if it was not equal to ridiculing their patriotism.
He said that holding dual nationality was permitted in various other countries as well. He asked if various Pakistanis having dual nationalities were not members of the British Parliament. He asked if the Pakistanis living in foreign countries were prohibited from contesting the election on the same premise, it would be a great national loss as they would not be able to serve Pakistan in an effective manner.
He said that Mrs Sonia Gandhi was the head of the ruling Congress party in India was not Indian by birth, yet she was allowed to take part in the election for the office of the prime minister. Father of the US president Mr Barack Obama was not American by birth, yet Mr Obama became the president of the most powerful country of the world.
Mr Hussain argued that the decision of allowing Pakistanis having dual nationality to stand in elections should be left to the people of Pakistan. The decision of the people should be respected if they were willing to elect them by their votes.
He said that the issue should not be looked from the standpoint of differences between the executive and the judiciary. It should be looked into in a broader perspective. He said that the constitution had been amended in the past on several occasions, and it can be changed even today.
Mr Hussain assured the overseas Pakistanis that the MQM would continue to raise its voice for their rights at every forum.

Ab bolo tum loooog??????????(clap)


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cashkash

MPA (400+ posts)
i am overseas pakistani but i agree with the cj and supreme court .we shouldnot have any right to be mna or mpa in pakistan ,this mendak is b h o n king again and again the same issue bec he is british national and lots of other mqms r also .so let him b a r k .
 

Pakistan 1st

Minister (2k+ posts)
Jis din bhi Ex.pats nay dollar bhaijna band kiye, usi din Pakistani leaders peron main gir kar dual nationality ko accept karain gay..