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Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
When I hear our media pundits discuss the state of Pakistan’s economy, I am stunned by their ignorance. During the past two years, Pakistan has made a remarkable recovery, but most people seem oblivious of this fact. It’s a simple and shocking story, based purely on numbers and maybe it remains obscured for this reason — numbers are boring.

In 2013, when Nawaz Sharif came to power, Pakistan’s imports of goods and services were around $48 billion and its exports of goods and services stood just over $31 billion. Remittances were approximately $13 billion and while the situation was precarious, as foreign exchange reserves were around $6 billion, the situation was manageable.

Over the next few years, under the PML-N) government, our imports skyrocketed to almost $68 billion — an increase of over 40%, while our exports stagnated and fell to $30 billion — a decline of 3%. Remittances increased to about $19 billion. For a country with extremely limited foreign exchange, this was suicide on steroids. The massive and growing imbalance between our exports and imports, should have forced the rupee to depreciate, but in a dangerous political move, the PML-N artificially maintained the rupee-dollar exchange rate between 100-110, bleeding the reserves of the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP). In the final two years of the PML-N government, the SBP reserves fell by more than half to around $9 billion, when Imran Khan became the Prime Minister.

In August of 2018, Pakistan was in the midst of a full blown economic catastrophe. A massive current account deficit, which when combined with our long-term financial debt obligations, created a hole of $25-30 billion, while the SBP had foreign exchange reserves of less than $10 billion. This impending financial disaster, resulted in Imran Khan’s infamous tours around the world to beg for financial help due to the criminal mismanagement of the economy by PML-N.

I am astonished that none of our anchors have ever bothered to question the financial geniuses belonging to PML-N about these numbers. How could they justify the increase in imports or the bleeding of the forex reserves by artificially maintaining an unsustainable exchange rate? What was their plan?

Anyway, when you need $20-30 billion and have less than $10 billion, what do you do? You beg, borrow and... And then you fix the mess, created by your predecessor. Reduce imports, increase exports, stop the bleeding of SBP reserves by artificially maintaining an overvalued exchange rate and pray for continued growth of remittances.

In two years, the government of Imran Khan achieved an unbelievable turnaround. Pakistan’s imports went down to $50 billion, a decline of $18 billion. Exports declined by $2 billion, to about $28 billion. Remittances crossed $23 billion, an increase of over $3 billion and SBP forex reserves have just crossed $12 billion. The PML-N left Pakistan with a current account deficit of almost $20 billion, while the PTI government is now expected to post a current account deficit of around $1-2 billion, in the current fiscal year. No one predicted such a quick turnaround, not even the IMF.

In essence, the PML-N government turned Pakistan into the Titanic, searched for the biggest iceberg and rammed into it, but somehow the PTI government has managed to turn the ship around and plugged the hole — a $20 billion hole. Unfortunately, this recovery, just like any recovery, came at a cost. In order to reduce imports and prevent the complete decimation of forex reserves at the SBP, the PTI had to end the delinquent exchange rate policy of PML-N. They allowed the depreciation of the currency, and the rupee-dollar exchange rate went from 110 to around 160, in a short period of time. This not only helped curb imports, by making them more expensive but helped the SBP boost its reserves.

Pakistan’s biggest import is oil and as the rupee depreciated, oil became expensive and this led to high inflation within the country. Inflation in Pakistan has always been closely linked to oil prices. For example, when the PPP came into power in 2008, oil prices increased from around $100/barrel to $150/barrel and Pakistan subsequently experienced double digit inflation. Similarly, when the PML-N came into power in 2013, average annual price of oil was around $100/barrel but by 2015 fell to about $50/barrel and PML-N was able to boast of low inflation below 5%. The double digit inflation being suffered by the PTI is again linked to the increase in oil prices, which was due to the depreciation of the rupee – a depreciation which was inevitable due to the inexcusable management of our imports and forex reserves by PML-N, especially in their final two years.

It is beyond belief that despite the availability of these harrowing figures, the PML-N continues to get a free ride in the media vis-à-vis their handling of the economy while the PTI is crucified for preventing a complete financial collapse.

I will conclude this article by stating that the economy is a large subject and the external sector, discussed above, is an important part of the picture but not the entire story. However, it was the criminal mismanagement of this sector that brought Pakistan to the brink of economic collapse, adversely affecting other variables such as inflation, growth and unemployment and the recovery in this sector is the most significant development for our economy, at the moment. It has laid the groundwork for achieving objectives related to growth, unemployment, and inflation over the coming years which would have been a pipe dream had the PTI failed to overcome this herculean challenge.

 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The macroeconomic legacy of PML-N government is comprises the following:

• Massive external current account deficit. The external current account deficit reached $ 18 billion in FY2018 (5.8% of GDP), which is the highest ever in the country’s history in absolute terms. Even in FY2017, when NS himself was the PM, the current account deficit was $12.6 billion, which was 5 times the size of current account deficit of $2.5 billion in FY2013 – the last year of PPP government in office.

Record trade deficit due to snowballing imports and relatively weak exports has been the primary reason behind surging external current account deficit. SBP’s FX reserves of currently around $ 9.5 billion are equivalent to less than 2 months of country’s imports, which is a dangerously low level.

• Huge budget deficit. Consolidated budget deficit for FY2018 is estimated at Rs. 2,300 billion (6.8%) of GDP. Even in FY2017, the budget deficit was a hefty Rs. 1,860 billion (5.8% of GDP).

• Large external debt. Total external debt and liabilities have increased to a massive $ 92 billion by March 2018 and the number would be much higher for June 2018. Total external debt & liabilities were $61 billion in June 2013.

• Large public debt burden. Total public debt (external plus domestic) has crossed 72% of GDP in June 2018, which is far higher than the mandatory limit of 60% set under the fiscal responsibility and debt limitation act.

• Energy sector iceberg. PML-N government’s policy adding massive power generation capacity on long-term (25-30 years) take-or-pay contracts which has pushed the country into a capacity trap. New power generation projects shall add around $ 4.0 billion annually to total capacity payments pool of CPPA (Central Power Purchasing Agency). The burden of additional capacity payments shall be passed on to consumers in shape of substantially higher electricity tariff.

Similarly, natural gas prices shall also see huge increases to meet higher cost of imported LNG and to provide return on investment due to large expansion of pipeline transmission network by Sui gas companies for upcountry transportation of LNG.

PML-N government was one of luckiest governments of recent times to enjoy massive tailwind resulting from a confluence of following factors:

• Collapse of international oil prices: Brent oil averaged $68 per barrel during 5 years of PML-N government i.e. from FY2014 to FY2018. This was more than $40 per barrel lower than the average of $110 per barrel in FY2012-13, the last 2 years of PPP government. Cumulative savings in oil import bill alone amounted to more than $25 billion in 5 years of PML-N government.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So let's talk about Nooranomics. Inflation was kept low because oil prices over the 5 yrs averaged less 45 dollars, GDP was high because of unsustainable imports, with a 37bn trade gap, imports were kept cheap by keeping an artificially low Rp not backed by any economic basics, the artificial Rps brought exports down to 23bn and destroyed any industrial base we had and the end result was bankruptcy. When you put such shit find tossers like yourself to believe it.
My friend things were different back the. Ishaq Dar went to IMF and took three year package first month and finances were secured by this action. Dolar stabilised, investors, traders, industrialist got confidence with that. Khan government was playing muzakrat muzakrat and foreign currency reserves were going down and down. Loan was taken after six months which caused dollar to drop and caused uncertainty in economy. Khan was challenging everyone that I will not leave anyone. Inverters, industrialist and, traders were terrified and they stop investing money. These things caused big problems in economy and caused inflation & dollar to rise and taxes & jobs to reduce.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
• CPEC as part of Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Xi Jinping assumed office in 2012 and unveiled by Xi Jinping in late 2013. CPEC is a subset of BRI and not any original idea conceived by PML-N. Regardless of the political party in the government, Pakistan would have been included in the BRI.

• Improved domestic law and order situation: Sustained military operation against terrorism resulted in marked improvement in domestic law and order situation creating a more conducive environment for investment.

The above factors created an ideal opportunity for the government to put the economy on the path of higher, sustainable and inclusive growth by strengthening institutions, restructuring and privatisation of PSEs, investment in critical areas such as education, healthcare, water resources, agriculture, environment and infrastructure, providing long-term policies for export growth and import substitution. Instead, the PML-N government squandered away the golden opportunity.

The dangerous of mix of arrogance, incompetence and malfeasance would perhaps be a better description of what PML-N proclaimed as “Good Governance”. The key element of patently flawed policies pursued by PML-N government included:

• Overvalued Exchange Rate: The Real Effective Exchange Rate (REER) series, published by SBP, is the most credible indicator of exchange rate valuation. REER value of 100 reflects fair valuation, while values higher than 100 represents overvaluation and less than 100 undervaluation. REER was at 104 in June 2013 when PML-N government came into office. However, it climbed up to 127 by December 2016, which was indicative a massive exchange rate overvaluation of 27%.

The analyst and economists who raised concerns about exchange rate overvaluation were ridiculed and criticised by the then finance minister Ishaq Dar. The overvalued exchange rate had twin negative effects. Firstly, it stimulated demand for imported goods. Secondly, it hurt exports by adversely affecting competitiveness, which along with absence of focus on export sectors resulted in underinvestment in export oriented industries. It is no surprise that the country’s exports fell from $25 billion in FY2014 to $20 billion in FY2017. Imports on the other hand jumped from $45 billion in FY2014 to $61 billion in FY2018.

• Fixation with Visibility over Value. PML-N government has been fixated with high visibility infrastructure projects even if they had low or negative value. Projects like metro bus in Islamabad or orange train in Lahore are a few cases in point.

• Unsustainable Energy Sector Expansion. The massive capacity expansion in the power sector have been undertaken without professional due diligence of the country’s demand/supply projections and impact on affordability and sustainability. Annual capacity payment of one 660 MW coal base power plant is $190 million while that of one 1200 RLNG based power plant is $170 million. Already, 4 x 660 MW coal based and 3 x 1200 MW RLNG based power plants have been completed. These projects shall entail aggregate annual capacity payments of $1.3 billion. A large number of power projects are under construction and their capacity payment burden shall start to accumulate in coming months/years.

• Absence of focus on agriculture and exports. These two sectors have been weakest performers in the last several years. As mentioned, exports have fallen over the last few years. Misplaced agriculture policies have added to the external account burden. Despite being an agriculture economy, Pakistan’s annual import of food/agriculture products is around USD 7.5 billion including over USD 2.0 billion of Palm Oil and more than USD 1.0 billion of cotton. Wrong agriculture policies have resulted in surplus production of sugarcane (which is a highly water intensive crop) and wheat. The commodities have to be exported at massive subsidies. According to latest SBP quarterly report, Pakistan’s domestic sugar production is nearly twice the domestic demand.

• Lack of Reforms in Public Sector. There has been a sustained decay of institution capacity of public sector institutions include regulatory institutions and public sector enterprises. Contrary to its traditional policies of privatisation, the PML-N government actually expanded the role of public sector by setting up a large number of new public sector enterprises. The stated claims of containing circular debt have been disingenuous. The number of months of overdue receivables of power sector increased to 12 by March 2018 from 2 in June 2013.

The financial position of Sui gas companies is very weak. Sui North had Gas Differential Margin payable of PKR 26 billion June 2013, which has turned into a net deficit of PKR 109 billion as of March 2018. Gas tariffs shall have to be increased substantially to recover these amounts from consumers.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My friend things were different back the. Ishaq Dar went to IMF and took three year package first month and finances were secured by this action. Dolar stabilised, investors, traders, industrialist got confidence with that. Khan government was playing muzakrat muzakrat and foreign currency reserves were going down and down. Loan was taken after six months which caused dollar to drop and caused uncertainty in economy. Khan was challenging everyone that I will not leave anyone. Inverters, industrialist and, traders were terrified and they stop investing money. These things caused big problems in economy and caused inflation & dollar to rise and taxes & jobs to reduce.
Rubbish, the Nooras borrowed 37bn in 5 years, where was that money spent? I will tell you, it was spent on financing Noora incompetence. Just answer me a simple question, how did you expect to finance a trade deficit of 37bn excluding remittances.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
• CPEC as part of Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Xi Jinping assumed office in 2012 and unveiled by Xi Jinping in late 2013. CPEC is a subset of BRI and not any original idea conceived by PML-N. Regardless of the political party in the government, Pakistan would have been included in the BRI.

• Improved domestic law and order situation: Sustained military operation against terrorism resulted in marked improvement in domestic law and order situation creating a more conducive environment for investment.

The above factors created an ideal opportunity for the government to put the economy on the path of higher, sustainable and inclusive growth by strengthening institutions, restructuring and privatisation of PSEs, investment in critical areas such as education, healthcare, water resources, agriculture, environment and infrastructure, providing long-term policies for export growth and import substitution. Instead, the PML-N government squandered away the golden opportunity.

The dangerous of mix of arrogance, incompetence and malfeasance would perhaps be a better description of what PML-N proclaimed as “Good Governance”. The key element of patently flawed policies pursued by PML-N government included:

• Overvalued Exchange Rate: The Real Effective Exchange Rate (REER) series, published by SBP, is the most credible indicator of exchange rate valuation. REER value of 100 reflects fair valuation, while values higher than 100 represents overvaluation and less than 100 undervaluation. REER was at 104 in June 2013 when PML-N government came into office. However, it climbed up to 127 by December 2016, which was indicative a massive exchange rate overvaluation of 27%.

The analyst and economists who raised concerns about exchange rate overvaluation were ridiculed and criticised by the then finance minister Ishaq Dar. The overvalued exchange rate had twin negative effects. Firstly, it stimulated demand for imported goods. Secondly, it hurt exports by adversely affecting competitiveness, which along with absence of focus on export sectors resulted in underinvestment in export oriented industries. It is no surprise that the country’s exports fell from $25 billion in FY2014 to $20 billion in FY2017. Imports on the other hand jumped from $45 billion in FY2014 to $61 billion in FY2018.

• Fixation with Visibility over Value. PML-N government has been fixated with high visibility infrastructure projects even if they had low or negative value. Projects like metro bus in Islamabad or orange train in Lahore are a few cases in point.

• Unsustainable Energy Sector Expansion. The massive capacity expansion in the power sector have been undertaken without professional due diligence of the country’s demand/supply projections and impact on affordability and sustainability. Annual capacity payment of one 660 MW coal base power plant is $190 million while that of one 1200 RLNG based power plant is $170 million. Already, 4 x 660 MW coal based and 3 x 1200 MW RLNG based power plants have been completed. These projects shall entail aggregate annual capacity payments of $1.3 billion. A large number of power projects are under construction and their capacity payment burden shall start to accumulate in coming months/years.

• Absence of focus on agriculture and exports. These two sectors have been weakest performers in the last several years. As mentioned, exports have fallen over the last few years. Misplaced agriculture policies have added to the external account burden. Despite being an agriculture economy, Pakistan’s annual import of food/agriculture products is around USD 7.5 billion including over USD 2.0 billion of Palm Oil and more than USD 1.0 billion of cotton. Wrong agriculture policies have resulted in surplus production of sugarcane (which is a highly water intensive crop) and wheat. The commodities have to be exported at massive subsidies. According to latest SBP quarterly report, Pakistan’s domestic sugar production is nearly twice the domestic demand.

• Lack of Reforms in Public Sector. There has been a sustained decay of institution capacity of public sector institutions include regulatory institutions and public sector enterprises. Contrary to its traditional policies of privatisation, the PML-N government actually expanded the role of public sector by setting up a large number of new public sector enterprises. The stated claims of containing circular debt have been disingenuous. The number of months of overdue receivables of power sector increased to 12 by March 2018 from 2 in June 2013.

The financial position of Sui gas companies is very weak. Sui North had Gas Differential Margin payable of PKR 26 billion June 2013, which has turned into a net deficit of PKR 109 billion as of March 2018. Gas tariffs shall have to be increased substantially to recover these amounts from consumers.
کسی نے نہیں کہا یہ نون کا آییڈیا تھا -یہ بیلٹ اینڈ روڈ منصوبے کا حصہ تھا - بیلٹ اور روڈ منصوبے میں سے سی پیک سب سے پہلے شروع ہوا چیک کر لیں - پانچ سال زرداری حکومت نے کوئی خاص پیش رفت نہیں کی - کسی بھی منصوبے کے لئے میمورنڈم آف انڈر سٹینڈنگ پہلا کنکریٹ سٹیپ ہوتا ہے اور وہ نواز نے اپنے اقتدار کے پہلے مہینے کیا - پہلا دورہ لوگ کہتے تھے سعودیہ کا ہو گا مگر نواز نے چین کو اہمیت دی - اس کے بھد دونوں طرف کے بیورو کریٹ کام کرتے رہے اور چین کے صدر کے دورے میں دستخط ہوئے - چینی تو شہباز شریف کے منصبوں کو پنجاب سپیڈ کہتے تھے کہ یہ ہر کام بہت تیز کرتا ہے اور سی پیک میں شہباز اور احسن اقبال کا بہت اہم کردار تھا -
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
World Commodity Prices Indices increase by December 2020 compared to June 2020. Energy = 30.1

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Non-Energy = 21.8

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Food = 18.8

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Metal = 31.9

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Crude Oil = 50.9

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Cotton = 30.1

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Palm Oil = 49

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Soya Bean Oil = 35.3

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Gold = 6.8

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Sugar = 9.5

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Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
1/3)Economic Indicators under PTI 1. Exports - $2.37B in Dec 2020, highest in last 7 years, 2nd highest for any month 2. Textile Exports - $1.4B in Dec 2020, highest ever for any month 3. Remittances - Highest half-year growth since 2007, crossed $2B in 7 consecutive months
4. SBP Reserves - Highest since January 2018 5. Current Account - July to Nov Surplus after 16 years 6. PSX - KSE100 closed above 46000 after April 2018 7. Large Scale Manufacturing - Highest monthly growth in 12 years 8. Ease of Doing Business - Best ranking since 2013
9. Primary Budget Balance - First Time in Surplus 10. Social Spending (Ehsaas)- Doubled since 2018 11. External Debt - The lowest increase in 5 years in FY2020 12. Cement Sales - Highest Ever Monthly sales in Oct 2020 13. Commercial Bank Deposits - Highest growth in 18 years
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Textile Exports of Pakistan December 2019 = US$ 1.14 Billion December 2020 = US$ 1.40 Billion Highest Ever Textile Exports in one month (Dec 2020) with a growth of 22.7% compared to last year. Source: Pakistan Bureau of Statistics
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Export Growth (July - Dec) Home Textiles 2019 = $1738 million 2020 = $2017 million Growth

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of 16% Readymade Garments 2019 = $944 million 2020 = $1181 million Growth

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of 25%
Double Digit Growth of 14.5% in Large Scale Manufacturing for Nov 2020 Textile = 3%

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Food etc = 56%

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Pharmaceuticals = 7.7%

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Chemicals = 11%

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NM Minerals = 12%

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Fertiliser = 9.2%

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Paper = 10%

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Automobiles = 44.5%

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Iron & Steel = 3.4%

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Cement = 13%

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Electronics = 3%

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Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Some of the achievements of the PTI government.
• Healthcare - Sehat Card • Education - Single National Curriculum • Welfare State - Ehsaas, Panagahs • Industrialisation - Export-led Economy • Employment - Construction Package • Low-Cost Housing • Aggressive Foreign Policy
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Some of the achievements of the PTI government.
• Healthcare - Sehat Card • Education - Single National Curriculum • Welfare State - Ehsaas, Panagahs • Industrialisation - Export-led Economy • Employment - Construction Package • Low-Cost Housing • Aggressive Foreign Policy
یہ سب پاکستان میں میں کسی کو کہو گے تو وہ ہنسے گا - لوگوں کو مہنگائی اور بے روزگاری نے مار دیا ہے اور یہاں منصوبے گنوائے جا رہے ہیں - ہیلتھ کئیر اور صحت کارڈ پچھلی حکومت سے چالو ہیں - پیسے جو احساس پروگرام میں بانٹے ہیں وہ دنیا نے ہمیں بھیک دی تھی -کونسی ویلفئیر اسٹیٹ جہاں عوام بھوکی مر رہی ہے اور حکومتی آٹے چینی چور مزے کر رہے ہیں -کسی کو نہیں پکڑا گیا - میں یہاں مورٹگیج دو فیصد پر ادا کر رہا ہوں اور وہاں گھروں کی مورٹگیج کا ریٹ کم از کم دس فیصد ہو گا - یہاں بھی عوام کی کھال اتاری جائیگی - یہ ہے ہاؤسنگ کی تفصیل -جی ڈی پی منفی صفر اعشاریہ پانچ ہے جس میں انڈسٹری اگریکلچر سروس سیکٹر سب آتے ہیں جب یہ اوپر ہو گی تو اصل ترقی ہو گی فلحال اسے پچھلی حکومت کے پانچ اعشاریہ سات تک جانا ہے بہتری بحد میں ہو گی -
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
یہ سب پاکستان میں میں کسی کو کہو گے تو وہ ہنسے گا - لوگوں کو مہنگائی اور بے روزگاری نے مار دیا ہے اور یہاں منصوبے گنوائے جا رہے ہیں - ہیلتھ کئیر اور صحت کارڈ پچھلی حکومت سے چالو ہیں - پیسے جو احساس پروگرام میں بانٹے ہیں وہ دنیا نے ہمیں بھیک دی تھی -کونسی ویلفئیر اسٹیٹ جہاں عوام بھوکی مر رہی ہے اور حکومتی آٹے چینی چور مزے کر رہے ہیں -کسی کو نہیں پکڑا گیا - میں یہاں مورٹگیج دو فیصد پر ادا کر رہا ہوں اور وہاں گھروں کی مورٹگیج کا ریٹ کم از کم دس فیصد ہو گا - یہاں بھی عوام کی کھال اتاری جائیگی - یہ ہے ہاؤسنگ کی تفصیل -جی ڈی پی منفی صفر اعشاریہ پانچ ہے جس میں انڈسٹری اگریکلچر سروس سیکٹر سب آتے ہیں جب یہ اوپر ہو گی تو اصل ترقی ہو گی فلحال اسے پچھلی حکومت کے پانچ اعشاریہ سات تک جانا ہے بہتری بحد میں ہو گی -
Koi nahi hansay ga siraf patwaris jin key aqal ko tala laga hua hua hay siraf woh he hans sakhtay hain. Baqi yeh batao kay economy itni achi thee tu munshi dar kiyon bhaaga hua hay? Nawaz kiyon bhaag gaya? Sara khandaan he bhaaga hua hay jo yahan hain unn per cases chal rahain hain ya parloe per bhar hain.
Nawaz nay jo economy ka hal kiya woh sari details meray upar wali posts may parh lo.
Koi aik department batao jahan nawaz nay phichkay 35 saal may koi islahaat key hoon? Her jaga apnnay bandaay laga kar khud bhi corruption key aur apnay waeeroon aur musheeron ko bhi corruption karnay dee.
Agar economy itni achi thee tu awam nay reject kiyon kar diya? Tum apnay aap ko baywaqoof bana saktay ho awam ab tumharay doo numbri may nahi aain gaay.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Koi nahi hansay ga siraf patwaris jin key aqal ko tala laga hua hua hay siraf woh he hans sakhtay hain. Baqi yeh batao kay economy itni achi thee tu munshi dar kiyon bhaaga hua hay? Nawaz kiyon bhaag gaya? Sara khandaan he bhaaga hua hay jo yahan hain unn per cases chal rahain hain ya parloe per bhar hain.
Nawaz nay jo economy ka hal kiya woh sari details meray upar wali posts may parh lo.
Koi aik department batao jahan nawaz nay phichkay 35 saal may koi islahaat key hoon? Her jaga apnnay bandaay laga kar khud bhi corruption key aur apnay waeeroon aur musheeron ko bhi corruption karnay dee.
Agar economy itni achi thee tu awam nay reject kiyon kar diya? Tum apnay aap ko baywaqoof bana saktay ho awam ab tumharay doo numbri may nahi aain gaay.
Elections are not held abroad or on internet; that is why PTI lost in four all four provinces. Khan came with military help but military is tired of him. Military is neutral now and this is good news for democracy. People will now decide who to bring. Khan was given chance but worst performance in the history of Pakistan. PTI will be history now. If they cannot win a bye-election under their own provincial and federal government then think of election in care taker era. People vote existing government because they think they may help and lot of votes were due to that. No good candidate will even accept PTI ticket in next elections. I am not saying that experts are saying that.
باتیں کروڑوں کی اور دکان پکوڑوں کی
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Elections are not held abroad or on internet; that is why PTI lost in four all four provinces. Khan came with military help but military is tired of him. Military is neutral now and this is good news for democracy. People will now decide who to bring. Khan was given chance but worst performance in the history of Pakistan. PTI will be history now. If they cannot win a bye-election under their own provincial and federal government then think of election in care taker era. People vote existing government because they think they may help and lot of votes were due to that. No good candidate will even accept PTI ticket in next elections. I am not saying that experts are saying that.
باتیں کروڑوں کی اور دکان پکوڑوں کی
Get real, your arguments have flaws and wishful thinking.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Get real, your arguments have flaws and wishful thinking.
It is based on recent elections in all four provinces of Pakistan. It is based on all surveys conducted so far as well.
Significant Majority in Pakistan want Nawaz Sharif to return to Pakistan and face courts : Gallup Pakistan Political Weather Report
47% agree with Nawaz Sharif claim that Imran Khan has destroyed the economy and 41% disagree. Minority agree with general stance taken by Nawaz Sharif at the recent APC however majority agree that Army should stay away with politics, though even this opinion is contested by a large 40% of respondents to this national statistical survey
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
It is based on recent elections in all four provinces of Pakistan. It is based on all surveys conducted so far as well.
Significant Majority in Pakistan want Nawaz Sharif to return to Pakistan and face courts : Gallup Pakistan Political Weather Report
47% agree with Nawaz Sharif claim that Imran Khan has destroyed the economy and 41% disagree. Minority agree with general stance taken by Nawaz Sharif at the recent APC however majority agree that Army should stay away with politics, though even this opinion is contested by a large 40% of respondents to this national statistical survey
About pmlun economy i have posted the details above.
What pti inherited the econmy from pmlun was disastrous and at the brink of default.
Considering the covid 19 pandemic pti has emerged much better then some of the world economies.
All you have left to say that establishment helped pti which is rhetoric with no substantial evidence.
However, Pmlun did come into power with the help of establishment starting with zia ul haq.
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
It is based on recent elections in all four provinces of Pakistan. It is based on all surveys conducted so far as well.
Significant Majority in Pakistan want Nawaz Sharif to return to Pakistan and face courts : Gallup Pakistan Political Weather Report
47% agree with Nawaz Sharif claim that Imran Khan has destroyed the economy and 41% disagree. Minority agree with general stance taken by Nawaz Sharif at the recent APC however majority agree that Army should stay away with politics, though even this opinion is contested by a large 40% of respondents to this national statistical survey
How many pmlun candidates were contesting in Sindh or Balochistan?
In kpk we lost because of khattak dynasty who supported the pdm candidate not pmlun.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How many pmlun candidates were contesting in Sindh or Balochistan?
In kpk we lost because of khattak dynasty who supported the pdm candidate not pmlun.
1-KPK lost election in Nowshehra to PML-N
2-PTI won NA seat in Karam-Tribal Area
3-Balochistan, PB20 Pishin-2 JUI-F won to beat BAP government ally in current government was third.
4-In Karachi lost one seat to PPP (PS 88 Malir Karachi)
5-PS43 Sindh PS88 Malir lost to PPP
PP51 Gujranwala won by PML(N)
NA75 re-election to be held
PTI has won 1 seat and lost 5 seats
These elections are from all four provinces and everywhere except on one place opposition won