Should we do a complete lock down in order to contain coronavirus now?

[Adeel]

https://www.facebook.com/adeel.siasat/posts/2589604631323402

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241107421432553472

 

[Mafialeaks]

Will the Shaytan Munafiq Niazi do it? No because he wants money $$$ from West.

Just like 70k Pashtuns were slaughtered like pigs for American dollars. Same game will be played with coronavirus.

Residents of Bani Gala and GHQ are safe from coronavirus. It will be the poor who will suffer meanwhile Niazis pockets will be full with American $$$ gained through an intentionally created epidemic in Pakistan.

By the way, oil prices are lowest in 18 years. What's Munafiq e Azam doing who used to make us hate Nawaz Sharif when we got petrol @68rs?

Here's the proof of coronavirus being used just like terrorism was used. US has stopped giving us money for terrorism, now coronavirus will be the new terrorism and our leaders Niazi and Bajwa will beg like whores for $$$.

US announces $1mn aid for Pakistan to combat coronavirus

"US government is responding to coronavirus in Pakistan with initial $1 million under USAID programme," Alice Wells

www.brecorder.com

 

[pinionated]

It is a very tough call for a poor country like Pakistan. Not only Pakistan’s economy is not in a good shape (thanks to dakoos), the poor and day laborers will start dying of hunger

 

[Masud Javed]

This is the only time to contain or we are in a heck of a mess

 

[Masud Javed]

Will the Shaytan Munafiq Niazi do it? No because he wants money $$$ from West.

Just like 70k Pashtuns were slaughtered like pigs for American dollars. Same game will be played with coronavirus.

Residents of Bani Gala and GHQ are safe from coronavirus. It will be the poor who will suffer meanwhile Niazis pockets will be full with American $$$ gained through an intentionally created epidemic in Pakistan.

By the way, oil prices are lowest in 18 years. What's Munafiq e Azam doing who used to make us hate Nawaz Sharif when we got petrol @68rs?

Here's the proof of coronavirus being used just like terrorism was used. US has stopped giving us money for terrorism, now coronavirus will be the new terrorism and our leaders Niazi and Bajwa will beg like whores for $$$.

US announces $1mn aid for Pakistan to combat coronavirus

"US government is responding to coronavirus in Pakistan with initial $1 million under USAID programme," Alice Wells

www.brecorder.com

mods, this scumbag is a propaganda master of PMLN gang and he is only here to bring the govt down in every possible way using the pandemic. Filthy corrupt scumbag he is A Abbasi

 

[FaisalKh]

You will have to do it at some point. You can either do it now or you have to wait when things get out of your hands. Do it now and you will come out with less damage. Do it later and you will be in a mess just like Italy, Spain etc...

 

[Citizen X]

https://www.facebook.com/adeel.siasat/posts/2589604631323402

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241107421432553472

I would first suggest to stop fear mongering with posts like this that the world is coming to an end, stop becoming the next Dr Dabarddoos, and better than lock downs are massive awareness campaigns. Not many in Pakistan are taking it seriously at all for various reasons and with this same jahil qoum a lock down will also be ineffective unless a military style shoot on sight curfew is imposed.

Just stay short of a complete lockdown that some semblance of a normal life can still remain A lot of good steps have been taken and more need to be taken as well as heavy and vigilant monitoring of public gatherings, article 144.

But ALL of this will be in vain including lockdown if the public does not co-operate.

 

[FaisalKh]

بہتر ہو گا تمام ایرانی زارئین جن لوگوں نے پچھلے 3 ماہ میں زیارت کی ہے۔ سب کو پکڑ کر کاترینا میں رکھ دینا چاہیے۔​

It is not about Iranian, Chinese or European anymore. It is already in the country and in a few weeks it will spread like fire if people does not listen to the advice

I remember when it started in UK and they would publish everything about travel history, area and all that but now they dont even report cases any more as it is increasing in large numbers

 

[Nightcrawl]

Yes no doubt it'll stop the spread

 

[Dream Seller]

Will the Shaytan Munafiq Niazi do it? No because he wants money $$$ from West.

Just like 70k Pashtuns were slaughtered like pigs for American dollars. Same game will be played with coronavirus.

Residents of Bani Gala and GHQ are safe from coronavirus. It will be the poor who will suffer meanwhile Niazis pockets will be full with American $$$ gained through an intentionally created epidemic in Pakistan.

By the way, oil prices are lowest in 18 years. What's Munafiq e Azam doing who used to make us hate Nawaz Sharif when we got petrol @68rs?

Here's the proof of coronavirus being used just like terrorism was used. US has stopped giving us money for terrorism, now coronavirus will be the new terrorism and our leaders Niazi and Bajwa will beg like whores for $$$.

US announces $1mn aid for Pakistan to combat coronavirus

"US government is responding to coronavirus in Pakistan with initial $1 million under USAID programme," Alice Wells

www.brecorder.com

What a pathetic individual you are...
Pakistan isn’t west. Millions of people are daily wagers who work during the day and feed their kids at night. Total lockdown means more deaths from hunger than virus.

 

[Dream Seller]

Sitting here on this platform means most of you can afford to stay home for months without worrying about food but that’s not the case with millions of Pakistanis. They’ll starve to death even before corona gets to them. May Allah help all of us.

 

[Sohail Shuja]

https://www.facebook.com/adeel.siasat/posts/2589604631323402

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241107421432553472

Just a little ground check first

1- Corona has a mortality rate of about 3%
2- Corona is more effective in elderly and children below 7 years of age (with underdeveloped immunity)

So, a complete lock down is advisable for the elderly and the children.
Rest can take a chance, because we all do face dangerous/life threatening situations everyday.

So, I would suggest a partial lock down, which should be logical and cares for the people who are more at risk than others.

 

[knowledge88]

I would first suggest to stop fear mongering with posts like this that the world is coming to an end, stop becoming the next Dr Dabarddoos, and better than lock downs are massive awareness campaigns. Not many in Pakistan are taking it seriously at all for various reasons and with this same jahil qoum a lock down will also be ineffective unless a military style shoot on sight curfew is imposed.

Just stay short of a complete lockdown that some semblance of a normal life can still remain A lot of good steps have been taken and more need to be taken as well as heavy and vigilant monitoring of public gatherings, article 144.

But ALL of this will be in vain including lockdown if the public does not co-operate.

Looks exactly what a PTI representative would say.
Also I would like you to share your opinion as well sometimes. It is good to present party policy but sometimes it is good to know what you think about it.

 

[samy99]

I THINK PAKISTAN SHOULD TAKE SOME VERY SERIOUS ACTIONS NOW BEFORE SITUATION GETS OUT OF CONTROL LIKE ITALY AND PAY THE HEAVY PRICE . AS FOR DAILY WAGERS ARE CONCERNED , GOVT HAVE TO GIVE SUPPORT TO THOSE PEOPLE . LOTS OF BUSINESSES AND POOR WILL NEED THE SUPPORT , ITS A NATURAL CALAMITY (DISASTER) AND HAVE TO FACE IT . ALL THE GOVTS IN THE WORLD HAVE THEIR SUPPORT FUND ESTABLISHED . INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTONS SHOULD HELP THE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES IN THIS PRECARIOUS SITUATIONS . IMF , WORLD BANK AND OTHER FOREIGN LENDERS SHOULD WRITE OFF AT LEAST 50% LOANS OF THESE COUNTRIES AND THE REST 50% RESCHEDULE THEM OTHERWISE THEY WILL DEFAULT . THE ELITES OF PAKISTAN HAVE MORAL OBLIGATIONS TO HELP PAKISTAN AND POORS FINANCIALLY AS THEY HAVE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF PAKISTAN . IF THEY DONT HELP THIS TIME THEN WHEN ? I HOPE GOD WILL GIVE THEM SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND ACT ON IT.
IMF SHOULD ALSO WRITE THE NEW TERMS WITH PAKISTAN , LOWER THE INTEREST RATES AND UTILITIES .

 

[desan]

There is a lot of discussion going on about the management COVID. Most of our Media Pundits are in favor of a European style shut down.

What we supposed to achieve with this lock down?

Are we going to decrease the number of people who are infected with COVID?​

Decrease the morbidity & mortality?​

It is estimated that COVID will affect 60 – 80% of the population in US and Europe, probably regardless of the total lock down.

If the total number of people affected by COVID is not significantly decreased than why there is so much emphasis on a lockdown?

Simple reason is to avoid clogging the system with a surge of sick patients and that’s why so much emphasis on “flattening the curve”.

They want to avoid the Italian example where the mortality rate from COVID went up as high as 8% as they could not cope with the flood of critically ill patients, as compared to China where the mortality rate was much much lower by early containment.

It is yet to be seen if these Western countries will be able to achieve same success as in China which is an authoritarian as well as a rich country with huge foreign reserves.

Question: Can we afford and achieve similar results in our country?
Ans: Highly improbable.

Our hospitals are having a tough time coping with the sick patients under normal circumstances, let alone in a global pandemic of a highly contagious virus.

Who doesn’t remember this gut wrenching video of a child dying in mother’s arms after traveling far and wide in search of a simple treatment for her child.

We not only have to flatten the curve, but make a chapati out of it in order save a meaningful number of people from dying. Even if we were able to make the curve really flat, then we have to keep it that way for a protracted length of time; else it will pop right back up and we will be back to square one.

Rich, well developed and technologically advanced countries are having a tough time dealing with the economic impact of this plague with stock markets plummeting to more 30% within few weeks in US and the GDP supposed to be negative 24% during this nightmare due to the wheel of the industry coming to a screeching halt!

We on the other hand don’t stand a chance in managing the disastrous economic impact of a total shut down for several weeks, both at the state and personal/household level.

 

[Eyeaan]

Can anyone tell -- What is the meaning of the word "Lock-Down"?
About curfews, we know what it is and what are SOP and who are responsible to impose a curfew.

But what is a lock-down?, What'd be the SOPs?
Who'll impose it? For how long?
Where it is to be imposed? (Let's discuss from Liari to district buner).
What will be criteria that 'lock down' is successful or not?
Who will assess it, health officials or the administration? (Of course media boys will reject it on very first day and unearth videos of some volition and viral them. PPP and Noon will daily bark-shows to highlight the failures of "lock down" but those are least of the problems)
Someone better answer these questions and then public may discuss what is the right option. (Economic, social and health issues are too complicated to be fruitfully discussed by public.)

If the whole image of "lock down: is about DHAs, Cliftons, Behria Town, Liberty Markets, Sadar, Mall road etc. then there is not need to discus it - implement it or not implement it from tomorrow - none of the business.

 

[thinking]

You didn't give solutions.If not going to lock down??
Chinese peoples follow the Gov medical instructions and peoples came forward from other parts of China to help Wuhan province during lock down.They gave regular food supply chain.. built separate temporary field hospitals only treat C virus patients which reduces burden on Gov run and private hospitals.. Pakistan Should at least restrict borders..abroad coming peoples..by 14 days Quarantine..made temporary hospitals nears all airports..borders...then at least partially lock down areas where more cases reported.. Pakistan need to go in-between total lock down..find the middle way.. Worst part of our nation is lack of knowledge..and respect the laws and rules.. Peoples shattered by politics.. religious Firqas.. languages..cultural base..no collective response on national serious issues..that's the sad side for us..

 

[wasiqjaved]

Anchors who dictate such advices are scums. I would want a real-life educated and experienced expert in this particular field to advice us about what and how we can contain such pandemic. Such as Pathologist/Pathogens Expert, Epidemiologists, etc.

Just because you're a corporate paid journalist doesn't make you an expert in every field.

 

[thinking]

Sorry to say...when traders sensed that masks.. sanitizer demand will go up..they started make stock for higher price..Even yesterday..when news came that Malaria medicines can be good for C Virus patients..this very cheap medicine also vanished from the market.. This done by Muslims..who are 5 times namazi..hajiis.. not by kafirs..
If Ours la..nati Molvis started giving Fatwas of Kafir..Jahanamis who stocked things during need of houre.. rather than giving free tickets to Jannat for giving chandas to Thiers Firqas madarsas.. Masajids..then peoples will change Thiers minds gradually..

 

[MHAMZA]

Just a little ground check first

1- Corona has a mortality rate of about 3%
2- Corona is more effective in elderly and children below 7 years of age (with underdeveloped immunity)

So, a complete lock down is advisable for the elderly and the children.
Rest can take a chance, because we all do face dangerous/life threatening situations everyday.

So, I would suggest a partial lock down, which should be logical and cares for the people who are more at risk than others.

Bhi jan it is not about who is more immune , most of the virus transfer has taken place from healthy carriers , so these young full of immunity people can bring back home the corona virus to their elderly parents and young children.