Who would you rate a better person & leader of a nation?

saqibmkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
!). A man who is reputed to be one of the most notorious embezzlers, money launderers, and looters of his country's coffers and thrice thrown out as the prime minister of his country.

2) A man who won his country the 2nd World War, slept until noon every day and drank a lot of Whisky every night.

3). He was a war hero, won his country's medal for bravery in the 1st Word war, and was a vegetarian as well as a mediocre painter.
 
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Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
!). A man who is reputed to be one of the most notorious embezzlers, money launderers, and looters of his country's coffers and thrice thrown out as the prime minister of his country.

2) A man who won his country the 2nd World War, slept until noon every day and drank a lot of Whisky every night.

3). He was a war hero, won his country's medal for bravery in the 1st Word war, and was a vegetarian as well as a mediocre painter.
Obviously the better person was person number 1 as he believed that even if you did not succeed three times, come back to try try again…..Ab is mien kia ?
 

@@@O.P

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Obviously the better person was person number 1 as he believed that even if you did not succeed three times, come back to try try again…..Ab is mien kia ?
i agree #1 as he came in power 3 X = 3x the maaza, wasay what was the point of this thread? lol
 

pinionated

Minister (2k+ posts)
for people who don’t know
1. Nawazoo
2. Churchill
3. Hitler
To be honest, the ranking is in order, starting from the worst
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why these options
Options should be

(A) The person in his tenure there were more positive economical indicators (GDP, Dollar Rate, Inflation, Stock Market, joblessness etc.). When important infrastructure in transportation health and power was built. The person who restored piece in the country. The person who ended 18 hours load shedding. The person who practically started CPEC

(B) The person under which financial indicators went negative from previous era or worst in last several decades. Era when not only PIA saw worst time in history but also world refused to take Pakistani pilots. The era when Saudis, UAE, USA & China were angry with Pakistan together. The time when energy deficient reached to all time high. The time when international loans were taken the most by any government. The person who filled all civilian institutions with retired or on service military persons.
pinionated
Saboo
Mulhid
saqibmkhan
 

surfer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why these options
Options should be

(A) The person in his tenure there were more positive economical indicators (GDP, Dollar Rate, Inflation, Stock Market, joblessness etc.). When important infrastructure in transportation health and power was built. The person who restored piece in the country. The person who ended 18 hours load shedding. The person who practically started CPEC

(B) The person under which financial indicators went negative from previous era or worst in last several decades. Era when not only PIA saw worst time in history but also world refused to take Pakistani pilots. The era when Saudis, UAE, USA & China were angry with Pakistan together. The time when energy deficient reached to all time high. The time when international loans were taken the most by any government. The person who filled all civilian institutions with retired or on service military persons.
pinionated
Saboo
Mulhid
saqibmkhan
Why is person A scared to come back to pak?
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Why is person A scared to come back to pak?
Well person A transferred large sums of money ( off-course by mistake ) to England and after realizing his mistake he now wants to return the money but his 2 fatty sons used it all….and now he can't come back.. ?
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why is person A scared to come back to pak?
When a beast is behind you, running is first reaction. This is tactical move, he will come back. He has done that several time. Focus is not on anyone but performance of a government. Please don't go to irrelevant discussions.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Why these options
Options should be

(A) The person in his tenure there were more positive economical indicators (GDP, Dollar Rate, Inflation, Stock Market, joblessness etc.). When important infrastructure in transportation health and power was built. The person who restored piece in the country. The person who ended 18 hours load shedding. The person who practically started CPEC

(B) The person under which financial indicators went negative from previous era or worst in last several decades. Era when not only PIA saw worst time in history but also world refused to take Pakistani pilots. The era when Saudis, UAE, USA & China were angry with Pakistan together. The time when energy deficient reached to all time high. The time when international loans were taken the most by any government. The person who filled all civilian institutions with retired or on service military persons.
pinionated
Saboo
Mulhid
saqibmkhan
When a beast is behind you, running is first reaction. This is tactical move, he will come back. He has done that several time. Focus is not on anyone but performance of a government. Please don't go to irrelevant discussions.
and you are the one who starts the most irrelevant discussions as the one above. ?
 

surfer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When a beast is behind you, running is first reaction. This is tactical move, he will come back. He has done that several time. Focus is not on anyone but performance of a government. Please don't go to irrelevant discussions.
Tactical move? That’s hilarious
I guess Biden is also getting praise for a tactical move in your book?
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
i agree #1 as he came in power 3 X = 3x the maaza, wasay what was the point of this thread? lol
Hahaha….If you are looking for a point of this thread, then you are on a wrong forum.
Well, come to think of it, what is even the point of being on this planet? and not on any other like moon, mars, jupiter? ?
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tactical move? That’s hilarious
I guess Biden is also getting praise for a tactical move in your book?
Biden has nothing to do with the mess in Afghanistan. It was started by CIA/Pentagon in cooperation with Junior Bush in October 2001. CIA/Pentagon was embarrassed to accept defeat and did not pulled out forces since 2011 when USA claimed that they have found Osama in Pakistan. I think Biden did well to finally end this game to pull out all troops and save his economy billions of dollars every year. Nawaz's story with hundreds of leadersin the world who went in exile and came back when things were in their favour. It is all political and political people do tactical moves. Nawaz went out in 2000 and came back in 2008. PML(N) got Punjab government in 2008 and Nawaz sworn in as PM in 2013. Nawaz may be hoping similar outcome; who knows this will happens or not but he adapted the tried and test route.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
and you are the one who starts the most irrelevant discussions as the one above. ?
Yes I turned options to right direction. A ruler's performance is the key measure to decide who is better. Thread starter drafted the terms to suit his favourite. I have put options which everyone in the world will agree that yes governments should be judged through their performances. When we talk in detail about performances with numbers and evidence then Insafi either run away or they divert attention to "Why Nawaz Bhag gia?". Mera khiyal mein 2023 mein awam is hakumat ko bhagne nahi deinge aur hisab mangein ge. Na is sawal ki ahmiat ho gi kea nawaz kion bhaga aur na pichle karapt they wali goli chale ge
 

surfer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Biden has nothing to do with the mess in Afghanistan. It was started by CIA/Pentagon in cooperation with Junior Bush in October 2001. CIA/Pentagon was embarrassed to accept defeat and did not pulled out forces since 2011 when USA claimed that they have found Osama in Pakistan. I think Biden did well to finally end this game to pull out all troops and save his economy billions of dollars every year. Nawaz's story with hundreds of leadersin the world who went in exile and came back when things were in their favour. It is all political and political people do tactical moves. Nawaz went out in 2000 and came back in 2008. PML(N) got Punjab government in 2008 and Nawaz sworn in as PM in 2013. Nawaz may be hoping similar outcome; who knows this will happens or not but he adapted the tried and test route.
So you don’t think nawaz is ill and it was all a plan to escape?
 

@@@O.P

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Hahaha….If you are looking for a point of this thread, then you are on a wrong forum.
Well, come to think of it, what is even the point of being on this planet? and not on any other like moon, mars, jupiter? ?
Letd ask space x to give us free ride to the moon!
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So you don’t think nawaz is ill and it was all a plan to escape?
If he was not ill government should have not let him go. He did not escaped through a container and went with the permission of government. I think this discussion should stop as he was not even opposition leader and it does not matter he live in Pakistani jail or abroad. All that is important; government's performance in economy and governance.
 

surfer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If he was not ill government should have not let him go. He did not escaped through a container and went with the permission of government. I think this discussion should stop as he was not even opposition leader and it does not matter he live in Pakistani jail or abroad. All that is important; government's performance in economy and governance.
Ok, so he was tactically ill. Got it

govt performance will be judged in about two years at GE (since Maryum and PDM utterly failed to send govt gone) - If they haven’t performed they will get voted out. It’s simple
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ok, so he was tactically ill. Got it

govt performance will be judged in about two years at GE (since Maryum and PDM utterly failed to send govt gone) - If they haven’t performed they will get voted out. It’s simple
Then why Khan was criticising PML(N) all 5 years? We have to discuss government performance as no one can sit and wait for 5 years. People of Pakistan are facing problems in economy and bad governance.