قرآن مجید میں حضرت عیسی علیہ سلام کا تذکرہ

Wake up Pak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
قرآن مجید میں حضرت مریم علیہ سلام اور فرشتے کے مابین مقالمہ درج ہے. آپ کے اور قوم کے مابین مقالمہ درج ہے. جس سے ثابت ہوتا ہے کے آپ کی شادی نہیں ہوئی تھی. قرآن مجید سے کوئی دلیل ہے تو بتاؤ
baar baar wohi sawal jao phelay jo link post Kiya tha who parh lo. Parhna bhi nahi aur behas bhi karni hay wah Kia logic hay.
 

atensari

President (40k+ posts)
baar baar wohi sawal jao phelay jo link post Kiya tha who parh lo. Parhna bhi nahi aur behas bhi karni hay wah Kia logic hay.
کسی منکر مولوی کی کہانیوں کا لنک نہیں آیت کا حوالہ جس سے ثابت ہو آپ کی شادی ہوئی تھی
 

Wake up Pak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کسی منکر مولوی کی کہانیوں کا لنک نہیں آیت کا حوالہ جس سے ثابت ہو آپ کی شادی ہوئی تھی
How do you know he is a munkir moulvi.
Read the link it is proven from the Quranic ayat. If you don't want to read then don't give the excuses.
 

atensari

President (40k+ posts)
How do you know he is a munkir moulvi.
Read the link it is proven from the Quranic ayat. If you don't want to read then don't give the excuses.
آپ کسی حدیث ماننے والے مولوی کی کہانیاں تو نہیں سنائیں گے

ہو سکے تو اس آیت کا حوالہ بتا دیں​
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

azeezam atensari sb, main ye chahun ga keh aap mojzaat ka aqeeda drust saabit karen aqlo fikar ki roshni main. agar aap ye aqeeda saabit ker den to alag alag mojzaat per behs kerne ki koi zaroorat hi nahin rehti.

asal baat jo bahot se logoon ke liye mughaalte ka baais banti hai woh ye hai keh aksar log qanoon ki definition hi nahin jaante. woh qawaneen jin ke teht is duniya ka nizaam chalta hai.

main chahta hun aap is qanoon ko saheeh tarah se define ker den is ke baad baat saaf ho jaaye gi.

regards and all the best.
 

atensari

President (40k+ posts)
azeezam atensari sb, main ye chahun ga keh aap mojzaat ka aqeeda drust saabit karen aqlo fikar ki roshni main. agar aap ye aqeeda saabit ker den to alag alag mojzaat per behs kerne ki koi zaroorat hi nahin rehti.

asal baat jo bahot se logoon ke liye mughaalte ka baais banti hai woh ye hai keh aksar log qanoon ki definition hi nahin jaante. woh qawaneen jin ke teht is duniya ka nizaam chalta hai.

main chahta hun aap is qanoon ko saheeh tarah se define ker den is ke baad baat saaf ho jaaye gi.

regards and all the best.
معجزات عقیدہ نہیں حقیقت ہے. عقل و فکر کی روشنی میں الله کو ثابت کریں. آسمان سے احکامات الہی انسان تک کیسے پہنچے ثابت کریں

الله ان قوانین سے بالا تر ہے یہ قوانین آئے روز معطل ہونے لگیں تو معجزات معجزات نا رہیں معمول بن جائیں

ٹریفک کے بھی قوانین ہوتے ہیں لیکن کسی حادثاتی صورتحال میں قوانین بنانے والے اور نافذ کرنے والے دونوں ان قوانین کو معطل کر دیتے ہیں
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
معجزات عقیدہ نہیں حقیقت ہے. عقل و فکر کی روشنی میں الله کو ثابت کریں. آسمان سے احکامات الہی انسان تک کیسے پہنچے ثابت کریں

الله ان قوانین سے بالا تر ہے یہ قوانین آئے روز معطل ہونے لگیں تو معجزات معجزات نا رہیں معمول بن جائیں

ٹریفک کے بھی قوانین ہوتے ہیں لیکن کسی حادثاتی صورتحال میں قوانین بنانے والے اور نافذ کرنے والے دونوں ان قوانین کو معطل کر دیتے ہیں

azeezam atensari sb, sab se pehle aap ye baat samajhne ki koshish kijiye keh saboot hota hi woh hai jo aqlo fiker se taaluq rakhe. is liye keh saboot woh baat hoti hai jo kisi na kisi lihaaz se samajh main aa sake. jo baat jis lihaaz se samajh main aa hi na sake woh baat us lihaaz se saboot ko ponch hi nahin sakti.

koi haqeeqat chahe kitni hi aashkaara ho woh saboot nahin hoti na saboot kehlaa sakti hai jab tak us ki explanation majood na ho ya di na jaa sake.

is ki misaal aap yun samjhen keh main aur aap jaa rahe aik raaste per aur hamaare saamne aik drakht aa gayaa hai. kia woh drakht aik haqeeqat hai ya aik saboot ya dono?

matlab ye keh kisi shai ke wajood ki mojoodagi us ki mojoodagi ka saboot nahin hoti balkeh us ki mojoodagi ki saheeh understanding us ki mojoodagi ka saboot hoti hai.

ye duniya jahaan to mojood hai magar ye aik haqeeqat hai ya wehmo khayaal is per log abhi tak behs ker rahe hen. is liye keh un ke paas abhi tak is ki drust understanding nahin hai. jab ye baat logoon ko theek tarah se samajh main aa jaaye gi to woh jaan len ge is duniya jahaan ki haqeeqat kia hai.

regards and all the best.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
معجزات عقیدہ نہیں حقیقت ہے. عقل و فکر کی روشنی میں الله کو ثابت کریں. آسمان سے احکامات الہی انسان تک کیسے پہنچے ثابت کریں

الله ان قوانین سے بالا تر ہے یہ قوانین آئے روز معطل ہونے لگیں تو معجزات معجزات نا رہیں معمول بن جائیں

ٹریفک کے بھی قوانین ہوتے ہیں لیکن کسی حادثاتی صورتحال میں قوانین بنانے والے اور نافذ کرنے والے دونوں ان قوانین کو معطل کر دیتے ہیں

azeezam atensari sb, quraan aisi explanations se pur hai jin se khudaa ke wajood ko saabit kiya gayaa hai. kia aap nahin samajhte keh agar khudaa hamaare saamne bhi hota to bhi ham ko us ke wajood ke baare main ghoro fiker aur soch samajh darkaar thi? insaan kisi bhi baat ko aqlo fiker ke baghair ghoro fiker ke baghair samajh hi nahin sakta to woh jis baat ko samajhta hi nahin us ko saabit kaise ker sakta hai?

agar khudaa ke wajood ko baghair explanation saabit kiya jaa sakta to khudaa quraan kyun utaarta? aur agar explanation saboot hi nahin hai to phir bhi quraan ke nazool ka kia maqsad?

khudaa ke wajood ke saboot ke liye sirf itni baat hi kaafi hai keh agar kuchh nahin tha to ibtadaa kaise hui aur agar kuchh tha to woh kia tha jis ne ye sab kuchh ker diya jo hamaare saamne hai?

regards and all the best.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
معجزات عقیدہ نہیں حقیقت ہے. عقل و فکر کی روشنی میں الله کو ثابت کریں. آسمان سے احکامات الہی انسان تک کیسے پہنچے ثابت کریں

الله ان قوانین سے بالا تر ہے یہ قوانین آئے روز معطل ہونے لگیں تو معجزات معجزات نا رہیں معمول بن جائیں

ٹریفک کے بھی قوانین ہوتے ہیں لیکن کسی حادثاتی صورتحال میں قوانین بنانے والے اور نافذ کرنے والے دونوں ان قوانین کو معطل کر دیتے ہیں

azeezam atensari sb, jin mojizaat ki ham baat ker rahe hen woh aqeeda hi hen haqeeqat nahin. is liye keh her baat ko apne maqsad ke tanaazur main hi dekhna padta hai. baatun ko aur cheezun ko maqsad se hat ker dekhne ka hi nateeja hai keh insaan confused hen.

creation aur revelation acts of God hen mojze nahin hen. khudaa ke in dono kaamun ka maqsad aik hi hai, kia aap bataa sakte hen woh maqsad kia hai? jin baatun ko ham log mojize kehte hen un ka maqsad kia hai aap zaraa us maqsad ko explain karne ki koshish karen.

aap ki ye baat drust nahin hai hai keh Allah taala ki zaat per us ke apne banaaye huwe qawaneen ka itlaaq nahin hota. bilkul hota hai. haan jab tak khudaa ne woh qawaneen laagu nahin kiye the tab tak aap ki baat drust thi.

jab khudaa ne aik maqsad ko saamne rakh ker ye kaainaat takhleeq farmayee to phir khudaa bhi apne maqsad ko poora karne ka paband ho gayaa. yahee wajah hai khudaa koi aisa kaam ab nahin ker sakta jo us ke maqsad ke bhar aane ke raaste main rukaawat bane. khud khudaa hi ka maqsad us ki qudrat ko limit ker deta hai. yahee baat aap ki tawajo main nahin hai jis ki wajah se aap ko baat samajhne main uljhan paish aa rayee hai. thoda ghoro fiker karen ge to Allah kere ga aap ko bhi baat samjh main aa jaaye gi.

regards and all the best.
 

atensari

President (40k+ posts)
azeezam atensari sb, sab se pehle aap ye baat samajhne ki koshish kijiye keh saboot hota hi woh hai jo aqlo fiker se taaluq rakhe. is liye keh saboot woh baat hoti hai jo kisi na kisi lihaaz se samajh main aa sake. jo baat jis lihaaz se samajh main aa hi na sake woh baat us lihaaz se saboot ko ponch hi nahin sakti.

koi haqeeqat chahe kitni hi aashkaara ho woh saboot nahin hoti na saboot kehlaa sakti hai jab tak us ki explanation majood na ho ya di na jaa sake.

is ki misaal aap yun samjhen keh main aur aap jaa rahe aik raaste per aur hamaare saamne aik drakht aa gayaa hai. kia woh drakht aik haqeeqat hai ya aik saboot ya dono?

matlab ye keh kisi shai ke wajood ki mojoodagi us ki mojoodagi ka saboot nahin hoti balkeh us ki mojoodagi ki saheeh understanding us ki mojoodagi ka saboot hoti hai.

ye duniya jahaan to mojood hai magar ye aik haqeeqat hai ya wehmo khayaal is per log abhi tak behs ker rahe hen. is liye keh un ke paas abhi tak is ki drust understanding nahin hai. jab ye baat logoon ko theek tarah se samajh main aa jaaye gi to woh jaan len ge is duniya jahaan ki haqeeqat kia hai.

regards and all the best.
ضروری نہیں ہے کے ہر ثبوت ہر کسی کی عقل میں آ جائے. الله، وحی، فرشتے جن کی عقل میں نہیں آتے وہ خود بہت بڑا عقل پرست سمجھتے ہیں. شکر ہے آپ اور آپ کے ہم خیال اتنے عقل پرست نہیں ہے جتنے ملحد ہیں

اتنے لمبے لیکچر کا جواب دینا ممکن نہیں. دو ٹوک جس بات کا جواب دینا ممکن اور ضروری تھا وہ عرض کر دیا ہے
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ضروری نہیں ہے کے ہر ثبوت ہر کسی کی عقل میں آ جائے. الله، وحی، فرشتے جن کی عقل میں نہیں آتے وہ خود بہت بڑا عقل پرست سمجھتے ہیں. شکر ہے آپ اور آپ کے ہم خیال اتنے عقل پرست نہیں ہے جتنے ملحد ہیں

اتنے لمبے لیکچر کا جواب دینا ممکن نہیں. دو ٹوک جس بات کا جواب دینا ممکن اور ضروری تھا وہ عرض کر دیا ہے

azeezam atensari sb, khudaa ne insaanu ko quran de diya hai aur is ko samajhne ke liye lawazmaat bhi de diye hen. ab ye khud insaanu ki apni marzi hai keh woh is per kitni mehnat kerte hen is ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye aur is ko theek tarah se samajh ker is per theek tarah se amal kerne ke liye.

her aik ko Allah taala us ki menat ka poora poora sila de ga us ki mehnat aur maqsad ke mutaabiq.

khud quraan hi main hai keh Allah taala ne insaau ko quraan diya hi issi liye hai taa keh woh aqal seekhen. issi liye saath ye bhi kahaa hai keh jo log aqlo fiker se kaam nahin lete woh kis darje ke log hen.

lihaaza woh kitaab kia jo insaanu ko aqal na sikhaaye aur woh insaan kia jo aqal seekhne ke liya koshish hi na kare? kitaaben ikathi kerne ka kia faaida agar un ko samajhne ke liye padhna hi nahin hai? khud quraan hi main hai gadhe ki misaal jis per kitaaben ladi hun.

quraan ke mutaabiq her aik insaan ko apni apni khudaadaad taaqat ke mutaabiq poori poori mehnat kerni chahiye ilm haasil kerne ke liye taa keh woh khudaa ki baaten theek theek samajh saken aur un per theek theek amal ker saken.

Allah taala se duaa hai keh woh ham sab insaanu ko woh maqsad poora kerne ki towfeeq ataa farmaaye jis ke liye us ne ham ko peda kiya hai.

agar quraan ya us ka ilm insaanu ke darmiyaan se nikaal diya jaaye to insaanu ke paas koi thos bunyaad hi baaqi nahin rehti jis per woh apne aqal ko sahaara de saken. yahee wajah hai insaani duniya identity crisis main hai. aur to aur khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waalun ka bhi yahee haal hai. is liye keh unhune quraan ke nazool ke maqsad ko aik taraf ker diya hai aur yun quraan ko chhor diya huwa hai sadyun se. musalmaanu ke ye haalat jo aaj hamaare saamne hai aise hi nahin ho gayee hai.

quraan sirf aur sirf aqlo fiker ki madad se samjha jaa sakta hai haqaaiq ki roshni main bebunyaad toham parasti ya wehmo gumaan se nahin.

regards and all the best.
 
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atensari

President (40k+ posts)
azeezam atensari sb, khudaa ne insaanu ko quran de diya hai aur is ko samajhne ke liye lawazmaat bhi de diye hen. ab ye khud insaanu ki apni marzi hai keh woh is per kitni mehnat kerte hen is ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye aur is ko theek tarah se samajh ker is per theek tarah se amal kerne ke liye.

her aik ko Allah taala us ki menat ka poora poora sila de ga us ki mehnat aur maqsad ke mutaabiq.

khud quraan hi main hai keh Allah taala ne insaau ko quraan diya hi issi liye hai taa keh woh aqal seekhen. issi liye saath ye bhi kahaa hai keh jo log aqlo fiker se kaam nahin lete woh kis darje ke log hen.

lihaaza woh kitaab kia jo insaanu ko aqal na sikhaaye aur woh insaan kia jo aqal seekhne ke liya koshish hi na kare? kitaaben ikathi kerne ka kia faaida agar un ko samajhne ke liye padhna hi nahin hai? khud quraan hi main hai gadhe ki misaal jis per kitaaben ladi hun.

quraan ke mutaabiq her aik insaan ko apni apni khudaadaad taaqat ke mutaabiq poori poori mehnat kerni chahiye ilm haasil kerne ke liye taa keh woh khudaa ki baaten theek theek samajh saken aur un per theek theek amal ker saken.

Allah taala se duaa hai keh woh ham sab insaanu ko woh maqsad poora kerne ki towfeeq ataa farmaaye jis ke liye us ne ham ko peda kiya hai.

agar quraan ya us ka ilm insaanu ke darmiyaan se nikaal diya jaaye to insaanu ke paas koi thos bunyaad hi baaqi nahin rehti jis per woh apne aqal ko sahaara de saken. yahee wajah hai insaani duniya identity crisis main hai. aur to aur khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waalun ka bhi yahee haal hai. is liye keh unhune quraan ke nazool ke maqsad ko aik taraf ker diya hai aur yun quraan ko chhor diya huwa hai sadyun se. musalmaanu ke ye haalat jo aaj hamaare saamne hai aise hi nahin ho gayee hai.

quraan sirf aur sirf aqlo fiker ki madad se samjha jaa sakta hai haqaaiq ki roshni main bebunyaad toham parasti ya wehmo gumaan se nahin.

regards and all the best.

الله نے قرآن مجید اور دیگر کتب انسانوں کو اس طرح نہیں دیں جس طرح اور چیزیں بلکہ ایک انسان (نبی) کو چنا جو قرآن مجید کو دوسرے انسان تک پہنچاتا ہے. قرآن مجید کو سمجھنے کے لئے پہلا لازم نبی صللھ علیہ وسلم کی ذات ہے. سب انسان صرف اپنی اپنی سمجھ کے مطابق سمجھنے اور سمجھانے لگیں تو گویا جتنے منہ اتنی سمجھیں
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آپ کی سمجھ اس آیت کے بارے میں کیا کہتی ہے. یہ صرف پڑھ کر ثواب حاصل کرنے کے لئے ہے یا کسی عمل کا نام ہے. وہ عمل کیسے ہو گا، کب ہو گا، کون کرے گا، کون نہیں. آپ کی عقل، کسی اور کی نہیں کیا کہتی ہے
Wake up Pak
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

الله نے قرآن مجید اور دیگر کتب انسانوں کو اس طرح نہیں دیں جس طرح اور چیزیں بلکہ ایک انسان (نبی) کو چنا جو قرآن مجید کو دوسرے انسان تک پہنچاتا ہے. قرآن مجید کو سمجھنے کے لئے پہلا لازم نبی صللھ علیہ وسلم کی ذات ہے. سب انسان صرف اپنی اپنی سمجھ کے مطابق سمجھنے اور سمجھانے لگیں تو گویا جتنے منہ اتنی سمجھیں
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آپ کی سمجھ اس آیت کے بارے میں کیا کہتی ہے. یہ صرف پڑھ کر ثواب حاصل کرنے کے لئے ہے یا کسی عمل کا نام ہے. وہ عمل کیسے ہو گا، کب ہو گا، کون کرے گا، کون نہیں. آپ کی عقل، کسی اور کی نہیں کیا کہتی ہے
Wake up Pak

azeezam atensari sb, aap ki ye baat drust hai keh Allah taala ne insaanu ko apna paighaam insaanu hi ke zariye pohnchaaya hai.

albatta Allah taala ne khud insaanu ko mayaar nahin banaaya hai apne kalaam ki sachayee ka, balkeh apne kalaam ko hi un ki sachayee ka saboot banaaya hai. is liye keh insaan ghalatiyan ke baghair ho hi nahin sakta agarche woh khudaa ka paighamber hi ho. lihaaza khudaa aisoon ko mayaar kyun banaaye ga jin se ghalatiyan sarzad hoti hen? paighamber bhi insaan hone ke naate insaani fitrat se waraa nahin the na ho sakte the warna woh insaan khelaa hi nahin sakte the. unhune jo bhi bulando baala kaam kiye insaan ho ker hi kiye. issi main un ki azmat thi keh woh behtareen insaan the.

rahee kisi baat ko theek tarah se samajhne ki baat to us ke liye drust mayaar ya formula laazmi hai. us ke baghair koi bhi kisi baat ko saheeh tarah se samajh hi nahin sakta. phir agar koi kisi baat ko khud drust tarah se samjhe ga nahin to us ko doosrun ko theek tarah se samjhaaye ga kaise? yahee nahin us ko kisi ke aage batore saboot kaise pesh kare ga?

is baat main kisi ko shak nahin hona chaiye keh khudaa ne paighambar chuna hi un logoon ko hai jo us ke mission ko poora kerne ke ehal the. aisa nahin hai keh khuda ne kisi naa ehal ko chuna aur phir us ko ehal ker diya. yahee wajah hai khudaa ke paighamber khudaa ki baatun ko apne dor ke sab insaanu se behtar samajhne waale the.

un main ye ehliyat bhi thi keh woh doosrun ko saheeh tareeqe se saheeh taleem de saken. yahee wajah hai logoon ne un ko support kiya un ki baaten sun ker, is liye keh un ki baaten khud logoon hi ke liye achhi thin. jin logoon ne un ko oppose kiya unhune bhi un ki baatun ko samajh ker hi oppose kiya apne apne zaati mufadaat ke khilaaf samajh ker.

khudaa ne unpadh jahil aur ganwaar logoon ko paighamber banaa ker nahin bhaija jaisa keh aksar molvi hazraat bataate hen. un ka yahee khayaal hai keh hamaari taraf bhaije ge khudaa ke aakhari paighamber unpadh the. ye baat quraan ke mizaaj ke saath mail hi nahin khaati, jo insaanu ki taleemo tarbiyat per intahee zor deta hai.

khud aqalmand aur samajhdaar insaaniyat bhi taleemo tarbiyat ko intahayee aham samajhti hai issi liye insaanu main se baaz log aqalmand bane aur un logoon ne bahot contribute kiya hai is maamle main aur ker bhi rahe hen.

is main shak nahin hai keh khudaa ke paighambrun ne khudaa ke kalaam ko hamesha aam logoon tak bahot hi achhe tareeqoon se pohnchaaya hai. magar un ki baatun ki drustagi ka mayaar bhi khud khudaa ka paighaam hi tha.

khud khudaa ke paighamberun ne bhi aqalmandi issi duniya main mojood cheezun hi se seekhi deegar logoon ki tarah. woh log bahot hi keen observer the aur learner the. issi liye duniya ko un ki zahaanat ka lohaa maanana hi pada. yaad rakhen her insaan ka ilm issi duniya ki chezun ka hi motaaj hai. yahee wajah hai jo log duniya ki cheezun se ilm haasil kerne main kamzor hun woh khudaa ke paighaam ko samajhne main bhi kamzor hi hun ge aur hote hen.

baatun ki drustagi ka wohee mayaar aaj bhi hai jo khudaa ki tarah se hamesha se tha. yani quraan ki baatun ke drust hone ka mayaar khud quraan hi hai. paighamber ki baaten nahin. aik to is liye ke paighamber insaan hote hen aur ghalatiyan ker jaate hen jaisa keh khud quraan hi main mojood hai. doosra is liye bhi keh, ye baat bhi sirf aur sirf quraan hi bataa sakta hai keh kon si baat jo logoon ne paighamber se mansoob ki hai paighmbar ki ho sakti hai aur kon si nahin.

lihaaza asal sawaal ye hai, quraan ki baatun ki drustagi ka saboot khud quraan kaise ho sakta hai?

is per bahot hi ziyaada tafseel ke saath baat ki zaroorat hai ta keh logoon ko ye haqeeqat theek traah se samajh main aa sake. albatta aasaan jawaab yahee hai keh quraan se woh usool jama ker liye jaayen jo is ko samajhne main madad dene ke liye seekhne laazmi hen. yani khud quraan hi se woh formula haasil kiye jaaye jo hamaari ye uljhan suljhaa sake.

kuchh bunyaadi baatun ki tafseel ke liye see posts 110 aur 112 ie HERE and HERE

For a detailed explanation of things about the quran, deen of islam and pakistan see HERE, HERE.

asal baat samajhne ki ye hai keh quraan aik mukammal formula hai insaanu ki guidance ke liye keh woh is duniya main kaise jiyen. is tarah jeena kyun zaroori hai insaanu ke liye jis tarah quraan bataata hai? is liye ke isse khudaa kuchh maqsad haasil kerna chahta hai insaanu ke zariye. woh maqsad kia hai jo khudaa insaanu ke zariye haasil kerna chahta hai? ye maqsad pooja paat nahin hai na hi khudaa ki taraf se insaanu ki koi aazmaaish hi hai. jab koi insaan itni baat ko ghoro fiker ker ke maloom ker leta hai to bahot kuchh us ki samajh main aa jaata hai. aur jab tak jo koi bhi itni baat ko nahin samjhe ga woh uljhanoo hi main rahe ga.

lihaaza quraan is liye diya gayaa hai taa keh log quraan se khudaa ke us maqsad ko samjhen jis ke liye us ne ye sab kuchh banaaya hai aur ye saara khail rachaaya hai. quraan woh raasta bataata hai jis ko apnaa ker log khudaa ka woh maqsad poora ker sakte hen jis ke liye un ko bahaaya gayaa hai. sirf aur sirf yahee asal deene islam hai baaqi sab logoon ki mangharat baaten hen jo unhune quraan ko samjhe baghair apni taraf se banaa leen hen.

aap itni baat per zaroor ghoro fiker karen keh agar khudaa ka is duniya ko peda kerne ka kuchh maqsad hai to woh kia ho sakta hai aur us maqsad ko poora kerne ke liye kia kia lawazmaat laazmi hen aur kia woph mojood hen? yahee baaten sab se ziyaada zaroori hen insaanu ke jaananae ke liye taa keh woh deene islam ko theek tarah se samajh saken quraan se.

ya aap yoon samjhen keh insaanu ko khudaa ne jis maqsad ke liye bhi peda kiya hai us ko poora kerne ke liye un ka zinda hona aur rehna aur khud mukhtaar hona az bas zaroori hai, to asal baat kia hui? khudaa ka maqsad ya us ko poore kerne ke lawazmaat ya dono?

yahaan se ye baat samajhna mushkil nahin honi chahiye keh khudaa ka jo bhi masqsad hai woh to sirf aik set target hai khudaa ki taraf insaanu ke haasil kerne ke liye baaqi baaten to us maqsad ke lawaazmaat ke zumre main aati hen. ab sawaal peda hota hai kia khudaa ka maqsad koi aik insaan poora ker sakta hai ya is maqsad ko sab insaanu ne mil ker poora kerna hai aik doosre ki madad se?

quraan bataata hai kuchh bunyaadi kaam insaanu ko infiraadi tor per anjaam dene hun ge jaise quraan ko khud theek tarah se samajhna ki poori poori koshish kerna. magar sab se pehle aise insaan ko jo quraan ko theek tarah se samajhna chahta hai us ke samajhne ke liye lawaazmaat haasil kerne hun ge warna quraan ko woh kabhi samajh hi nahin paaye ga theek tarah se. phir jab khud samajh jaaye to us ko usse doosrun ko samjhaane ki koshish kerni ho gi theek tarah se aur woh lawaazmaat haasil kerne hun jo aisa kerne ke liye darkaar hen. itna kaam kerne ke liye aik insaan ko kia kia kerna ho ga? kia ye kaam aise insaan ker sakte hen jo din raat un kaamun main lage rehte hen jin se kuchh bhi haasil nahin magar woh in kaamoo ko khudaa ki ibaadat samajh ker kerte hen? aise logoon ko to sirf insaani skakal main bhaid bakiyan hi kahaa jaa sakta hai.

aisi baatun se deeno mazhab ka farq saaf saaf saamne aa jaata hai. yaheen se ye baat bhi saaf saaf maloom ho jaata hai keh bahot se logoon ke khudsaakhta aqeede aur amaal bebunyaad aur ghalat hote hen aur un main logoon ke liye koi khaas bhalayee nahin hoti balkeh un se insaaniyat ko ulta shadeed nuqsanaat pohnchate hen.

kia is tanaazur main ye baat saheeh nahin hai keh jo koi bhi quraan ko theek tarah se samajhna chahta hai us ke liye sab se pehle zinda rehna aur khud mukhtar hona zaroori hai taa keh us ko is kaam se koi zabardasti roke na sake? yahee wajah hai insaanu ko sab se pehle aik aise maashre ko peda kerne ki zaroorat hai jo un ko ye mahol de sake jis main woh aisa ker saken. ye hai deene islam jis ki taraf quraan guide kerta hai. yahee wajah hai islam ki bunyaad hi jihaad hai. yani us waqt tak logoon ka aapas main aik doosre ko aqal sikhaate rehna jab tak aisa maashra wajood pazeer nahin ho jaata. ye hen deene islam ke asal pillars jin se mullah ne insaanu ko door rakha huwa hai.

mullah ne insaanu ko khudaa ke naam per aisi baatun main lagaaya huwa hai jin ka na sar hai na paer. asal bunyaadi baat to insaanu ka saheeh tarah se organise aur regulate hona hai yani aik ummat banana hai taa keh woh achhe tareeqe se is duniya main zinda reh saken taa keh phir woh khudaa ke maqsad ki taraf aasaani se badh saken.

yahee wajah hai ham ko asal deene islam ko quraan se theek tarah se samajhne ki poori poori koshish kerni chahiye aur mullah ki ghulaami se nikalna chahiye. links main main ne bataa diya hai quraan ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye insaanu ko kia kia kerna ho ga. apna sar zameen per patakhna aur apna pichhla hissa hawa main lehraana deene islam nahin hai na hi khudaa ki ibaadat hai is liye keh aise kaamoon se khudaa ka diya huwa maqsad na maloom kiya jaa sakta hai na hi poora kiya jaa sakta hai. jin logoon ne ye baaten ijaad ki hen un ka maqsad logoon ko aise kaamun main lagaana tha jin se log bewaqoof bane rahen taa keh un ka kaam chalta rahe aur yun un ka maqsad poora hota rahe. in kaamun ka parchaar kerne waale issi liye insaaniyat ke dost nahin dushman hen.

insaanu ne is duniya main sirf aik baar hi aana hota hai agar woh apna apna waqt yun zaaya ker ke chale jaayen ge to un ko kia haasil ho ga? un ke aise kaamun se duniya main kia behtari aaye gi insaaniyat ke liye?

regards and all the best.
 
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atensari

President (40k+ posts)
azeezam atensari sb, aap ki ye baat drust hai keh Allah taala ne insaanu ko apna paighaam insaanu hi ke zariye pohnchaaya hai.

albatta Allah taala ne khud insaanu ko mayaar nahin banaaya hai apne kalaam ki sachayee ka, balkeh apne kalaam ko hi un ki sachayee ka saboot banaaya hai. is liye keh insaan ghalatiyan ke baghair ho hi nahin sakta agarche woh khudaa ka paighamber hi ho. lihaaza khudaa aisoon ko mayaar kyun banaaye ga jin se ghalatiyan sarzad hoti hen? paighamber bhi insaan hone ke naate insaani fitrat se waraa nahin the na ho sakte the warna woh insaan khelaa hi nahin sakte the. unhune jo bhi bulando baala kaam kiye insaan ho ker hi kiye. issi main un ki azmat thi keh woh behtareen insaan the.

rahee kisi baat ko theek tarah se samajhne ki baat to us ke liye drust mayaar ya formula laazmi hai. us ke baghair koi bhi kisi baat ko saheeh tarah se samajh hi nahin sakta. phir agar koi kisi baat ko khud drust tarah se samjhe ga nahin to us ko doosrun ko theek tarah se samjhaaye ga kaise? yahee nahin us ko kisi ke aage batore saboot kaise pesh kare ga?

is baat main kisi ko shak nahin hona chaiye keh khudaa ne paighambar chuna hi un logoon ko hai jo us ke mission ko poora kerne ke ehal the. aisa nahin hai keh khuda ne kisi naa ehal ko chuna aur phir us ko ehal ker diya. yahee wajah hai khudaa ke paighamber khudaa ki baatun ko apne dor ke sab insaanu se behtar samajhne waale the.

un main ye ehliyat bhi thi keh woh doosrun ko saheeh tareeqe se saheeh taleem de saken. yahee wajah hai logoon ne un ko support kiya un ki baaten sun ker, is liye keh un ki baaten khud logoon hi ke liye achhi thin. jin logoon ne un ko oppose kiya unhune bhi un ki baatun ko samajh ker hi oppose kiya apne apne zaati mufadaat ke khilaaf samajh ker.

khudaa ne unpadh jahil aur ganwaar logoon ko paighamber banaa ker nahin bhaija jaisa keh aksar molvi hazraat bataate hen. un ka yahee khayaal hai keh hamaari taraf bhaije ge khudaa ke aakhari paighamber unpadh the. ye baat quraan ke mizaaj ke saath mail hi nahin khaati, jo insaanu ki taleemo tarbiyat per intahee zor deta hai.

khud aqalmand aur samajhdaar insaaniyat bhi taleemo tarbiyat ko intahayee aham samajhti hai issi liye insaanu main se baaz log aqalmand bane aur un logoon ne bahot contribute kiya hai is maamle main aur ker bhi rahe hen.

is main shak nahin hai keh khudaa ke paighambrun ne khudaa ke kalaam ko hamesha aam logoon tak bahot hi achhe tareeqoon se pohnchaaya hai. magar un ki baatun ki drustagi ka mayaar bhi khud khudaa ka paighaam hi tha.

khud khudaa ke paighamberun ne bhi aqalmandi issi duniya main mojood cheezun hi se seekhi deegar logoon ki tarah. woh log bahot hi keen observer the aur learner the. issi liye duniya ko un ki zahaanat ka lohaa maanana hi pada. yaad rakhen her insaan ka ilm issi duniya ki chezun ka hi motaaj hai. yahee wajah hai jo log duniya ki cheezun se ilm haasil kerne main kamzor hun woh khudaa ke paighaam ko samajhne main bhi kamzor hi hun ge aur hote hen.

baatun ki drustagi ka wohee mayaar aaj bhi hai jo khudaa ki tarah se hamesha se tha. yani quraan ki baatun ke drust hone ka mayaar khud quraan hi hai. paighamber ki baaten nahin. aik to is liye ke paighamber insaan hote hen aur ghalatiyan ker jaate hen jaisa keh khud quraan hi main mojood hai. doosra is liye bhi keh, ye baat bhi sirf aur sirf quraan hi bataa sakta hai keh kon si baat jo logoon ne paighamber se mansoob ki hai paighmbar ki ho sakti hai aur kon si nahin.

lihaaza asal sawaal ye hai, quraan ki baatun ki drustagi ka saboot khud quraan kaise ho sakta hai?

is per bahot hi ziyaada tafseel ke saath baat ki zaroorat hai ta keh logoon ko ye haqeeqat theek traah se samajh main aa sake. albatta aasaan jawaab yahee hai keh quraan se woh usool jama ker liye jaayen jo is ko samajhne main madad dene ke liye seekhne laazmi hen. yani khud quraan hi se woh formula haasil kiye jaaye jo hamaari ye uljhan suljhaa sake.

kuchh bunyaadi baatun ki tafseel ke liye see posts 110 aur 112 ie HERE and HERE

For a detailed explanation of things about the quran, deen of islam and pakistan see HERE, HERE and HERE

asal baat samajhne ki ye hai keh quraan aik mukammal formula hai insaanu ki guidance ke liye keh woh is duniya main kaise jiyen. is tarah jeena kyun zaroori hai insaanu ke liye jis tarah quraan bataata hai? is liye ke isse khudaa kuchh maqsad haasil kerna chahta hai insaanu ke zariye. woh maqsad kia hai jo khudaa insaanu ke zariye haasil kerna chahta hai? ye maqsad pooja paat nahin hai na hi khudaa ki taraf se insaanu ki koi aazmaaish hi hai. jab koi insaan itni baat ko ghoro fiker ker ke maloom ker leta hai to bahot kuchh us ki samajh main aa jaata hai. aur jab tak jo koi bhi itni baat ko nahin samjhe ga woh uljhanoo hi main rahe ga.

lihaaza quraan is liye diya gayaa hai taa keh log quraan se khudaa ke us maqsad ko samjhen jis ke liye us ne ye sab kuchh banaaya hai aur ye saara khail rachaaya hai. quraan woh raasta bataata hai jis ko apnaa ker log khudaa ka woh maqsad poora ker sakte hen jis ke liye un ko bahaaya gayaa hai. sirf aur sirf yahee asal deene islam hai baaqi sab logoon ki mangharat baaten hen jo unhune quraan ko samjhe baghair apni taraf se banaa leen hen.

aap itni baat per zaroor ghoro fiker karen keh agar khudaa ka is duniya ko peda kerne ka kuchh maqsad hai to woh kia ho sakta hai aur us maqsad ko poora kerne ke liye kia kia lawazmaat laazmi hen aur kia woph mojood hen? yahee baaten sab se ziyaada zaroori hen insaanu ke jaananae ke liye taa keh woh deene islam ko theek tarah se samajh saken quraan se.

ya aap yoon samjhen keh insaanu ko khudaa ne jis maqsad ke liye bhi peda kiya hai us ko poora kerne ke liye un ka zinda hona aur rehna aur khud mukhtaar hona az bas zaroori hai, to asal baat kia hui? khudaa ka maqsad ya us ko poore kerne ke lawazmaat ya dono?

yahaan se ye baat samajhna mushkil nahin honi chahiye keh khudaa ka jo bhi masqsad hai woh to sirf aik set target hai khudaa ki taraf insaanu ke haasil kerne ke liye baaqi baaten to us maqsad ke lawaazmaat ke zumre main aati hen. ab sawaal peda hota hai kia khudaa ka maqsad koi aik insaan poora ker sakta hai ya is maqsad ko sab insaanu ne mil ker poora kerna hai aik doosre ki madad se?

quraan bataata hai kuchh bunyaadi kaam insaanu ko infiraadi tor per anjaam dene hun ge jaise quraan ko khud theek tarah se samajhna ki poori poori koshish kerna. magar sab se pehle aise insaan ko jo quraan ko theek tarah se samajhna chahta hai us ke samajhne ke liye lawaazmaat haasil kerne hun ge warna quraan ko woh kabhi samajh hi nahin paaye ga theek tarah se. phir jab khud samajh jaaye to us ko usse doosrun ko samjhaane ki koshish kerni ho gi theek tarah se aur woh lawaazmaat haasil kerne hun jo aisa kerne ke liye darkaar hen. itna kaam kerne ke liye aik insaan ko kia kia kerna ho ga? kia ye kaam aise insaan ker sakte hen jo din raat un kaamun main lage rehte hen jin se kuchh bhi haasil nahin magar woh in kaamoo ko khudaa ki ibaadat samajh ker kerte hen? aise logoon ko to sirf insaani skakal main bhaid bakiyan hi kahaa jaa sakta hai.

aisi baatun se deeno mazhab ka farq saaf saaf saamne aa jaata hai. yaheen se ye baat bhi saaf saaf maloom ho jaata hai keh bahot se logoon ke khudsaakhta aqeede aur amaal bebunyaad aur ghalat hote hen aur un main logoon ke liye koi khaas bhalayee nahin hoti balkeh un se insaaniyat ko ulta shadeed nuqsanaat pohnchate hen.

kia is tanaazur main ye baat saheeh nahin hai keh jo koi bhi quraan ko theek tarah se samajhna chahta hai us ke liye sab se pehle zinda rehna aur khud mukhtar hona zaroori hai taa keh us ko is kaam se koi zabardasti roke na sake? yahee wajah hai insaanu ko sab se pehle aik aise maashre ko peda kerne ki zaroorat hai jo un ko ye mahol de sake jis main woh aisa ker saken. ye hai deene islam jis ki taraf quraan guide kerta hai. yahee wajah hai islam ki bunyaad hi jihaad hai. yani us waqt tak logoon ka aapas main aik doosre ko aqal sikhaate rehna jab tak aisa maashra wajood pazeer nahin ho jaata. ye hen deene islam ke asal pillars jin se mullah ne insaanu ko door rakha huwa hai.

mullah ne insaanu ko khudaa ke naam per aisi baatun main lagaaya huwa hai jin ka na sar hai na paer. asal bunyaadi baat to insaanu ka saheeh tarah se organise aur regulate hona hai yani aik ummat banana hai taa keh woh achhe tareeqe se is duniya main zinda reh saken taa keh phir woh khudaa ke maqsad ki taraf aasaani se badh saken.

yahee wajah hai ham ko asal deene islam ko quraan se theek tarah se samajhne ki poori poori koshish kerni chahiye aur mullah ki ghulaami se nikalna chahiye. links main main ne bataa diya hai quraan ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye insaanu ko kia kia kerna ho ga. apna sar zameen per patakhna aur apna pichhla hissa hawa main lehraana deene islam nahin hai na hi khudaa ki ibaadat hai is liye keh aise kaamoon se khudaa ka diya huwa maqsad na maloom kiya jaa sakta hai na hi poora kiya jaa sakta hai. jin logoon ne ye baaten ijaad ki hen un ka maqsad logoon ko aise kaamun main lagaana tha jin se log bewaqoof bane rahen taa keh un ka kaam chalta rahe aur yun un ka maqsad poora hota rahe. in kaamun ka parchaar kerne waale issi liye insaaniyat ke dost nahin dushman hen.

insaanu ne is duniya main sirf aik baar hi aana hota hai agar woh apna apna waqt yun zaaya ker ke chale jaayen ge to un ko kia haasil ho ga? un ke aise kaamun se duniya main kia behtari aaye gi insaaniyat ke liye?

regards and all the best.
آپ نے اس لیکچر میں اپنا موقف ثابت کرنے کے لئے قرآن مجید سے کوئی حوالہ دیا تو بتا دیں. میں نے ایک آیت نقل کی تھی اس کے بارے میں بھی کچھ عرض کریں
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپ نے اس لیکچر میں اپنا موقف ثابت کرنے کے لئے قرآن مجید سے کوئی حوالہ دیا تو بتا دیں. میں نے ایک آیت نقل کی تھی اس کے بارے میں بھی کچھ عرض کریں

azeezam atensari sb, main quraan ki bahot si aayaat pesh ker chuka hun apne diye ge links main. mazeed ye keh agar aap ne quraan ko kabhi theek tarah se samajhne ke liye ghor se padha hai to meri baaten yaqeenan aap ko bahot si quraani aayaat per mabni milen gi. is ke liye hawaale ki zaroorat nahin hai. aap ko chahiye keh aap khud se poochhen keh aakhir aap ko hawaale ki zaroorat pesh hi kyun aayee hai? mera khayaal hai is ki wajah hamaare nazriyaat main ikhtilaaf hai. agar mera ye andaaza drust hai to phir sawaal peda hota hai hamaare darmiyaan ye ikhtilaaf kyun hai aur is ka hal kia hai?

zahir hai aap quraani aayaat ka mafhoom apne afkaaro nazriyaat ke lihaaz se len ge apni samajh ke mutaabiq aur main apne afkaaro nazriyaat ke mutaabiq apni samajh ke mutaabiq. ab ye kaise maloom ho keh aap ke ke afkaaro nazriyaat drust hen ya mere? is liye jab tak ye baat saabit na ho sake keh kon se afkaaro nazriyaat kyun drust hen quraan ki aayaat quote kerne se ya ahaadis quote kerne se kia haasil? is liye keh bunyaadi ikhtilaaf hi yahee hai keh quraano ahaadis ko interpret kaise kiya jaaye yani kon se context main. issi liye phir ye sawaal bhi peda hota hai keh ye context maloom kaise kiya jaaye? ye woh bunyaadi baaten hen jin per ghoro fiker kerne ke liye khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waalun ke paas waqt hi nahin hai is liye keh woh apne apne zehn aur rawaiye pehle se hi banaaye baithe hen bila saheeh tor per soche samjhe.

mullah aur un ke pechhe aankhen band ker ke chalne waale logoon ke liye islam ki sachayee ka saboot quraano hadis hen. ye baat kerne ko to apni jaga drust hai magar is baat ko saabit kerne ke liye bhi to koi pemaana hona chahiye. is baat ko mullah aur un ke shagird hazam ker jaate hen. mullah is bunyadi baat ko kyun hazam ker jaate hen? kia woh log jahil hen ya koi aur baat hai? mera khayaal hai mullah log qadre anjaan hen jis ki wajah se woh uljhanoo ka shikaar hen aur issi liye un ke chhote chhote zaati mufadaat un ko deene islam se bhatkaa dete hen jis ki wajah se un ko drust baat ko drust tareeqe se samajhne main diqqat paish aati hai aur is baare main un main woh dilchasbi nahin payee jaati jo laazmi hai deene islam ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye.

main ne jo pehle links diya hen un per zara nazar doraayen. wahaan main ne mullah ke bunyaadi usool per baat ki hai yani tafseere quraan quraan ke saath. bilkul aisi hi baat tafseere quraan hadis ke saath usool per bhi ki jaa sakti hai.

ye woh asal baaten hen jin per agar aap ki nazar se aap ke manpasand logoon ki koi explanations guzri hun to mere saath zaroor share karen taa keh isse mujhe bhi pata chal sake keh aap ke afkaaro nazriyaat ki asal bunyaad kia hai aur kia woh bunyaad drust hai ya ho sakti hai ya phir woh bilkul hi ghalat aur bebunyaad aur mangharat hai.

mere nazdeek islam deen hai mazhab nahin hai. quraan ka yahee asal context hai jo meri samajh main abhi tak aaya hai kaafi ghoro fiker ke baad quraan ko samajhne ke liye padh ker. yahee wajah hai jo log islam ko mazhab samajhte hen mere nazdeek woh quraan ko samajh hi nahin sake aur na hi samajh sakte hen jab tak apna ye ghalat nazriya chhor na den. jis ke liye intayee mehnat ki zaroorat hai jo bahot se log kerne ko tayaar hi nahin hen.

aap khud ghor farmayen, aap ke haan bhi islam ko is duniya main drust zindagi guzaarne ka saheeh raasta bataaya jaata hai. ab aap khud sochen, insaanu ko is duniya main theek tarah se jeene ke liye kia kia lawazmaat darkaar hen? yahee lawaazmaat deene islam ki bunyaad hone chahiyen ya kuchh aur? kia jin baatun ko deene islam ke satoon bataaya jaata hai un ka yahee matlab liya jaat hai mullah ke nagar main? agar liya jaata hai to saboot pesh karen ya saabit karen kisi apne manpasand mullah ki video share ker ke aur agar nahin to kyun nahin?

main ne apni zindagi main kisi aik mullah ko bhi aise islam ki baat kerte huwe nahin dekha jis main lawaazmaate zindagi ko deene islam ka satoon bataaya gayaa ho. haan kuchh logoon ne is baare main kuchh baaten zaroor ki hen. aap ka kia khayaal hai aisa kyun nahin kiya gayaa? kia sab ke sab mullah jahil hen ya is duniya ke baashinde nahin hen keh un ko maloom nahin hai is duniya main theek tarah se jeene ke liye kia kia lawaazmaat darkaar hen? aakhir phir kia wajah hai keh mullah logoon ne deene islam ke satoonu ke ghalat mataalib aam kiye hen awaam main jo logoon ka waqt barbaad kerte hen?

aap ne jo quraani aayat quote ki hai usse shaayad aap paanch waqti namaaz saabit kerna chahte hen. main nafse namaaz ke khilaaf nahin hun magar ye baat deene islam ka satoon ho hi nahin sakti, kyun? dekhiye jis cheez ko ham namaaz kehte hen is main hai kia. Allah taala ki tareef. is main kia ghalati hai? kuchh bhi nahin. phir is main duaayen hen. woh bhi agar munaasib aur drust hen to theek hen keh is main insaanu ki apni apni khawaishaat ka izhaar hai apne khudaa ke aage.

magar sawaal peda hota hai aakhir namaaz deen ka satoon kyun nahin ho sakti? is liye ke jo cheez deen ka satoon ho us ki ehmiyat bhi to satoon banane waali honi chahiye ya ke nahin? namaaz main aisi koi baat nahin hai jisse is ki itni ehmiyat saabit ki jaa sake. agar hai to aap saabit karen. kia jo log namaaz nahin padhte woh is duniya main jee nahin sakte? namaaz insaanu ko roti paani nahin deti jis ke na milne se insaan is duniya main jee hi na saken. lihaaza saaf saaf zahir hai namaaz koi itni aham shai nahin hai jis ko deen ka satoon bataa ker saabit bhi kiya jaa sake keh ye deene islam ka satoon hai.

phir ye keh khudaa ki taareef asal main ho hi wohee sakti hai jo insaan dil ki gehraaiyun se karen. insaan hamesha aik haalat main nahin rehte. lihaaza her insaan ka her waqt dil nahin kerta khudaa ki tareef kerne ka. phir ye keh insaani lawaazmaat aise hen jin ko poora kerne ke liye insaan ko alag alag waqt chahiye. lihaaza ye baat insaanu ke liye mumkin hi nahin hai keh woh her waqt khudaa ki taareef main lage rahen. insaanu ke liye sab se pehle un ki zindagi aati hai aur us ke lawaazmaat. jab in baatun se insaan ka dil mutmain hota hai tab us ke dil se khudaa ki sachi taareef nikal sakti hai warna nahin. jab insaan takleef main hota hai us ko khudaa se apni takleef ka hal darkaar hota hai woh waqt khudaa ki jhooti taareefun ke pul baandne ka nahin hota. lihaaza jab insaan per aisi kaifiyat taari ho ke us ke dil se khudaa ki tareef nikle wohee us ki taraf se khudaa ki asal yani sachi tareef hai. baaqi sab banaawati baaten hen.

insaan ko jab kisi shai ki ashad zaroorat hoti hai tabhi woh khudaa se dil se sawaal kerta hai. ab khuda ko kia padi hai keh woh logoon per aisi baaten musallat kare jin main na us ka apna faaida na logoon ka balkeh is main khudaa ki zaat ki toeen chhupi hai keh woh dande ke zor per zabardasti logoon se apni jhooti tareefen kerwaana chahta hai. yahee nahin agar log baithe khudaa ki jhooti taareefen karte rahen ge to khaayen ge kahaan se? khudaa ne aasmaan se logoon per rotiyan nahin bersaani. lihaaza aisi baatun main insaaniyat ka nuqsaan hai. khudaa kaise logoon ko aisi baaten keh sakta hai kerne ko jin se un ko ijtamayee tor per sirf aur sirf nuqsaan hi ho aur un ke waqt ka ziyaa ho? kia waqt ka ziaa sab se ziyaada nuqsaan deh baat nahin hai insaanu ke liye? agar log bekaar baatun main waqt zaaya ker den ge to apni zaroortun ko poora kerne ke liye waqt un ke paas kahaan se aaye ga?

yahee wajah hai khudaa ki asal zimmadaari hi yahee thi keh woh insaanu ko bataaye un ko us ne peda kis liye kiya hai aur ye bhi bataaye keh insaan kaise us ke maqsad ko poora ker sakte hen. agar khudaa se mansoob kisi nizaame hayaat main ye do bunyaadi baaten nahin hen to baaqi jo bhi hai sab bekaar hai. yahee wajah hai mazhab logoon ka khudsaakhta aik jhoot ka palanda hai. isse logoon ko jahaan tak ho sake bachna chahiye warna woh duniya aur aakhirat main kaamyaab ho hi nahin sakte. her mazhab ke log issi liye zaleelo khawaar hen duniya bhar main kyunkeh mazhab insaanu ko sirf aur sirf zaleelo khwaar hi ker sakta hai. kaamyaabiyun ki bulandi per sirf aur sirf deene islam hi pohnchaa sakta hai insaanu ko magar shart ye hai woh is ko theek tarah se samajh ker theek tarah se apnaayen.

khudaa aur insaan ka maamla asal main ye hai keh insaan khud bakhud khudaa ki tareefen kare khudaa ki taraf se kuchh paa ker jo us ke liye achhaa ho aur us ko sawaal bhi kare us baare main jis main us ko khudaa se sawaal kerne ki zaroorat bhi ho. khudaa na banaawati tareefen pasand kerta hai apni logoon se aur na hi bekaaro bemaqsad sawaalaat jo us ke maqsad ke muqaable main kiye jaayen?

ye baat apni jaga bilkul drust hai ke deene islam ke paanch arkaan hen yani towheed, salaah, sowm, zakaah aur hajj. albatta in ilfaaz ke maani woh nahin hen jo mullah logoon ne apni taraf se banaa liye hen aur yoon deene islam ko mazhabe main tabdeel ker liya hai.

is ki misaal kuchh yoon samjhen keh qayaam ka matlab, kisi bhi ghalat nizaam ya baat ke khilaf uth khadaa hona hai. yani uprising. agitation or reaction or movement or campaign waghera.

rukoo ke maani khud ko ya society ko deene islam ke mutaabiq dhalna hai ya bend kerna hai ya turn kerna hai deen ki taraf. yani deen per khud ko ya society ko model kerna hai. quraan ke saheeh context main ambiyaa ki sunnat issi ko kehte hen. mullah ki bebunyaad baatun ko nahin.

sajdah ke maani khudaa ki taraf se di gayee guidance ya guidelines ko qabool ker lena hai yani un ke aage sare tasleem kham kerna. sajde ke maani zameen per apni naak ragarna nahin hen.

issi tarah lazfe salaah ke bhi kayee maani hen yahee wajah hai aap her jaga quraan main lafze salaah ka tarjama namaaz karna bhi chahen to nahin ker sakte.

ye sab is liye taa keh deene islam ka jo maqsad hai woh poora kia jaa sake. aap apni namaaz main uthak baithak se deene islam ka kon sa bunyadi aur aham maqsad poora kerte hen? insaaniyat ki isse kon si laazmi zaroorat poori hoti hai?

salaah ka matlab jamaat bhi hota hai aur aapas main connected rehna khudaa ke liye. salaah qaaim kerne ka matlab insaanu ki jamaat tayaaar kerna hota hai yani ummat banaana. ab aap poochhen ge, to phir zakaat ka kia matlab hai. yahee keh jamaat ki taraqi aur khushhaali ke liye kaam karna apni poori ehliyato qaabliyat ke mutaabiq taa keh jamaat ya ummat mazboot ho. yani jamaat ki her tarah ki behtari ke liye kaam karna. jamaat ko barhoti dena. ab aap poochhen ge to phir sowm ka kia matlab huwa. yahee keh her us kaam se baaz rahna jisse is ummat ya jamaat ko jo wajood main aayee hai nuqsaan pohnche. sowm khud ko bhooka nanga rakhne ka naam nahin hai. inhi ahmqaana tarjamoon ki wajah se ummat bhooki nangi ho ker reh gayee hai. her woh kaam ghalat hai jis kop kerne se yaa to ummat ban hi na sake ya phir bani hui ummat toot phoot ka shikaar ho jaaye. kher ab aap poochhen ge phir hajj ka kia matlab huwa. yahee keh khudaa ki is duniya main khudaa hi ka nizaam qaaim kero. yani bring about kingdom of God.

ap in baatun ke tanaazur main sochen islam deen hai ya mazhab aur kia islam ko mazhab banaa ker aap kabhi bhi apni duniya aur aakhirat sanwaar sakten hen? her giz nahin. ye hai mere aur aap ke afkaaro nazriyaat ka asal ikhtilaaf. ab aap bataayen kia asal baatun ko samjhe baghair sirf quraan ki aayaat ka hawaala dene se ye ikhtilaaf hal ho sakta hai? her giz nahin. issi liye quraan ko theek tarah se samajhne ke tareeqe ko theek tarah se jaanane ki ashad zaroorat hai.

yahee wajah hai main ne tafseere quraan ke usoolun per behs chhairi hai. taa keh aap ko aur deegar logoon ko ye samjhaa sakoon keh in usoolun ka drust maani aur istemaal kia hai. aap ko her mullah yahee kehta nazar aaye ga keh ummat main ikhtilaaf is tarah se khatam kiya jaa sakta hai ya us tarah se kahtam kiya jaa sakta hai magar agar aap thoda bahot ghoro fiker se kaam len ge un ki baatun per to maloom ho ga mullah ki sab baaten jo drust hen sirf un ki rati ratayee hui baaten hen jin per un logoon ne khud bhi kabhi ghor nahin kiya warna ummat main ikhtilaafaat kab ke khatam ho chuka hote.

mullah ke sab ke sab tarjamen quraan ke paighaam ko tor maror ker pesh kerte hen. issi liye taqreeban sab ke sab khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waale shadeed uljhano aur bohraanoon main mubtila hen. in ki duniya bhi barbaad hai aur aakhirat bhi.

aap bhi inhi uljhanoo aur bohraanu ka shikaar hen issi liye aap ne bajaaye asal baat ko samajhne ke quraan se hawaalun ka ziker kiya hai. haalan keh itni baat to aap ko bhi maloom honi chahiye keh jab tarjamoon main hi ikhtilaafaat paaye jaate hen to phir koi usool chahiye jo ye saaf saaf saabit ker sake keh kon sa tarjama drust aur kon sa ghalat hai aur aisa hai kyun.

lihaaza aap ye bataayen quraan ka drust tarjama kerne ke liye kin kin baatun per dhiyaan laazmi hai jis ke baghair quraan ka saheeh tarjama ya quraan ki baatun ki saheeh samajh mumkin hi nahin hai. yani aap ke haan sources of information kon kon si hen jin ke baghair quraan ka drust tarjama mumkin hi nahin hai?

regards and all the best.
 
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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلًا مِّن قَبْلِكَ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُمْ أَزْوَاجًا وَذُرِّيَّةً وَمَا كَانَ لِرَسُولٍ أَن يَأْتِيَ بِآيَةٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ لِكُلِّ أَجَلٍ كِتَابٌ

And, truly, We sent forth apostles before thee, and We appointed for them wives and offspring; and it was not given to any apostle to produce a miracle save at God's behest. Every age has had its revelation:
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
معجزات عقیدہ نہیں حقیقت ہے. عقل و فکر کی روشنی میں الله کو ثابت کریں. آسمان سے احکامات الہی انسان تک کیسے پہنچے ثابت کریں

الله ان قوانین سے بالا تر ہے یہ قوانین آئے روز معطل ہونے لگیں تو معجزات معجزات نا رہیں معمول بن جائیں

ٹریفک کے بھی قوانین ہوتے ہیں لیکن کسی حادثاتی صورتحال میں قوانین بنانے والے اور نافذ کرنے والے دونوں ان قوانین کو معطل کر دیتے ہیں

azeezam atensari sb, qanoone qudrat hota hi woh hai jo kabhi badla nahin jaata aur na hi us ki application hi khatam ki jaati hai. aap yahaan bhi poori baat ko samajhne main ghalati ker rahe hen issi liye aap ne insaanu ke banaaye huwe qawaneen per khudaa ke banaaye huwe qawaneen ko qayaas kiya hai. asal baat ye hai keh her qanoon her situation ke liye nahin hota. balkeh jab jab jo jo situation ho gi usse mutalqa qanoon apply ho ga.

is ki misaal aap yun samjhen keh, agar qanoon ye hai keh jo koi bhi kisi ko nahaq qatal kare ga us ki saza mot hai to phir ye saza sirf aur sirf issi situation main appy ho gi her aik situation main nahin. ab agar koi bhi kisi ko kabhi bhi nahaq qatal kere ga to ye qanoon apply ho ga. haan agar koi bhi kisi ko bhi kabhi bhi naahaq qatal nahin kere ga to phir ye qanoon kabhi bhi apply nahin ho ga. is ka ye matlab nahin hai keh qanoon ab mojood hi nahin hai ya moatal ho gayaa hai balkeh woh moqa hi nahin peda huwa jis moqe per ye qanoon harkat main aata ya motaharrak kiya jaata.

aap ki ye baat bilkul drust hai keh qanoon banaane waala qanoon ko badal sakta hai. albatta khudaa apne qawaaneen ko kabhi bhi nahin badalta, kyun? is liye keh khudaa agar apne banaaye huwe qawaneene qudrat ko badalta rehta to phir ham sab bilkul hi confuse hote aur hamesha confused aur puzzled rehte. woh kaise? woh aise keh agar khudaa kisi kaam ko kabhi aik tareeqe se karta aur kabhi doosre tareeqe se aur kabhi teesre tareeqe se waghera waghera to sochen hamaara kia banta? ham kisi bhi shai per ehtmaad aur bharosa ker hi na sakte.

is duniya ki koi aik shai bhi hamaare istemaal ki ya kaam ki na rehti, kyun? is liye keh farz karen ham ne aik gun banaani hai. ye kaise mumkin hai keh ham gun banaa len jabkeh is ke banaane ke liye jitne bhi ajzaa darkaar hen un ki properties ka ham ko pata hi na chal sake? yani koi shai bhi apna permanent character hi na rakhti ho keh jis ke character ko saamne rakh ker ham us ke mutaliq koi faisla ker saken aainda ke liye. yani agar koi shai apne past main permanent characteristics hi na rakhe to us ke mutaliq ham us ki future ko kaise predict ker sakte hen? kabhi lohaa lohaa ho aur kabhi mom ban jaaye aur kabhi lakdi ya tin ya taanbaa peetal waghera waghera.

jab aap ko itni baat samajh main aa gayee to aap ke dimaagh se ye baat nikal jaaye gi keh khudaa yun powerful hai keh jab chahe jo chahe ker daale. aisa nahin ho sakta is liye keh khudaa ke her kaam ka koi na koi maqsad hota hai aur us maqsad ko haasil kerne ke liye khudaa ko bhi sab kuchh kerne ke liye koi na koi tareeqa hi apnaana padta hai. kun fa yakoon ka matlab bhi ssi context main samajhne ki zaroorat hai warna quraan ka tarjama hi ghalat ho ga.

khudaa powerful hai issi liye woh ye sab kuchh ker saka magar wohee jo us ka maqsad tha us ne kiya aur ussi tareeqe se jo woh chahta tha. issi tarah khudaa hamesha wohee kuchh kare ga aur ussi tarah kare ga jo kuchh jis tareeqe se us ke maqsad ko poora kare ga. khudaa ke acts random nahin hote na ho sakte hen keh kabhi kuchh ker diya aur kabhi kuchh aik bache ki tarah. issi liye aap ko woh aqeede aur afkaaro nazriyaat nahin apnaane chahiyen jo aqali tor per saaf saaf ghalat maloom hun.

issi liye mojzaat aur karamaat ke qisse kahaaniyan haqeeqat nahin ho sakte kyunkeh woh hamaare saamne mojood zameeni haqaaiq se mutasaadam hen. yahee wajah hai in ki bunyaad per kiye ge quraan ke taraajam sab ke sab ghalat hen aur khudaa per zabardasti jhoot baandne waali baat hai. lihaaza asal baat ko talaash kerne ki zaroorat hai. kuchh aisi hi baaten khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waalun aur deegar logoon ke darmiyaan shadeed tanaaza bani hui hen. is liye keh dono taraf kam ilm logoon ki bharmaar hai.

Allah taala ham sab ko quraan ki baaten saheeh tareeqe se samajhne ki towfeeq aata farmaaye.

regards and all the best.
 
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