مفتی منیب الرحمان کی کل قضاء روزہ رکھنے کی اپیل

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
islam deen hai mazhab nahin hai, for better understanding of deen of islam from the quran see HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE. kyun deene islam ko mazhab saabit kerne ki nakaam koshishen ker rahe ho?
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Raj Bhai, I wish you had read the whole article before making any comment. Let me copy part of the last paragraph:

فقہ حنفی کی مشہور کتاب ’درمختار‘ میں درج ہے ؛’’مطلع مختلف ہونے کا کوئی اعتبار نہیں ۔ اگر مغربی ممالک والے چاند دیکھ لیں تو مشرقی ممالک کو اس کے مطابق عمل کرنا ضروری ہے۔‘‘(جلد اول، صفحہ 149)۔ احناف کی دیگر کتابوں جیسے فتاویٰ عالمگیری، فتح القدیر، بحرالرائق، طحاوی، زیلعی وغیرہ میں بھی یہی درج ہے۔
Following is a quotation from an article "The obligation of beginning Ramadhan when the Moon is sighted in any country":

A rather lengthy list of prominent scholars (both classical and contemporary) endorses the global sighting opinion. This list includes: Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Malik, Imam Hambal, many students of Imam Sha’fai, Imam Ibn Al-Arabi, Imam Ibn Taymiyyah, Imam Nawwai, Imam Kasanee, Imam Al-Shawkani, Imam Juzairi, Imam Sarkhasi, Maulana Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi (co-founder Dar-al-Uloom Deoband), Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi, Mufti Kifayat ullah, Maulana Mohammed Zakaria Kandhalvi, Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi among many others. Famous books of fiqh such as Fatawa Alamgeeri, Fatawa Dar ul Uloom Deoband, Bahar e Sharee’at, Durr al-Mukhtar among others endorse the global sighting opinion.

For detailed article click here: https://hizb-america.org/the-obliga...dhan-when-the-moon-is-sighted-in-any-country/
"Darmukhtar" doesn't matter. Half of these scholars (last ones) have controversy attached to them.
Answer only one thing, if we to accept this moon sighting as per these books, then why not "Same Azaan" and namaz time?
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"Darmukhtar" doesn't matter. Half of these scholars (last ones) have controversy attached to them.
Answer only one thing, if we to accept this moon sighting as per these books, then why not "Same Azaan" and namaz time?
سب سے پہلے سمجھنے والی بات یہ ہے کہ زمین کی گردش کی وجہ سے زمین کے مختلف حصوں میں عید کی نماز اور روزانہ 5 نمازوں کے لئے مختلف وقت ہونا لازمی ہے۔ لہذا کوئی بھی، دنیا کے مختلف حصوں میں ایک ہی وقت میں عید یا ہر روز پانچ نمازیں ادا کرنے کی وکالت نہیں کررہا ہے، بلکہ ایک ہی دن عید، اگر ممکن ہو سکے، کی نماز کی ادائیگی کی بات ہو رہی ہے۔

جس بات کی وکالت کی جا رہی ہے وہ یہ ہے کہ (مثال کے طور پر) یکم شوال کی فجر کی نماز ہماری زمین کے کسی بھی دو مقامات کے درمیان زیادہ سے زیادہ 24 گھنٹوں (تقریبا) کے اندر انجام پا جائے۔ موجودہ نظام کے مطابق یکم شوال کی فجر ہماری زمین کے کسی بھی دو مقامات کے درمیان 12 سے 48 گھنٹے کے فاصلے یا فرق تک ممکن ہوسکتی ہے۔ اسی طرح ، نماز عید (یعنی یکم شوال کی صبح کی عید کی نماز ) اس دنیا کے کسی بھی دو مقامات پر زیادہ سے زیادہ 24گھنٹے (تقریبا) سے زیادہ نہیں ہونا چاہئے۔

یہ تب ہی ممکن ہے اگر دنیا کے کسی بھی حصے سے چاند نظر آنے کے قابل اعتماد شہادت موصول ہوجائے تو بقیہ دنیا کے ممالک اور علاقاجات چاند دیکھنے کی کوئی ضرورت محسوس نہ کریں۔ اور اگلی صبح کے لئے عید کی تیاری کریں۔

مجھے امید ہے کہ میں نے آپ کے لئے یہ نکتہ واضح کردیا ہے۔

The first thing to be understand is that due to rotation of earth there has to be different time for Eid Prayers and daily 5 prayers at different part of the planet. Hence no one is advocating to have Eid or each daily five prayers be performed at the same time at different parts of the world. On the contrary, it is a matter of offering Eid prayers on the same day, if possible.

What is being advocated is that (for example) the Fajr prayer of the first Shawwal should be performed within a maximum of 24 hours (approximately) between any two places on our planet. According to the current system, the dawn of the first Shawwal may be possible at a distance of 12 to 48 hours between any two places on our planet. Similarly, the Eid prayers (ie the morning Eid prayers on the first of Shawwal) should not exceed a maximum of 24 hours (approximately) between any two places in the world.

This is possible only if reliable evidence of moon sightings is received from any part of the world, then rest of the world's countries and regions do not feel the need to see the new moon. And prepare for Eid the next morning.

I hope I have made this point clearer for you.
 
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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Stupidity is at its best when people who cannot even tell how to make proper sense of the quranic text try to justify their religious nonsense in the name of deen of islam. The main question for people to consider is, is it at all possible to become united on basis of religious mumbo jumbo? No, not at all. It is because religion by its very nature is a very divisive thing. It has no solid basis to begin with which is necessary for unity of humanity.

Not only that but do religious rituals and their timing make sense at all? No. Its only senseless people who believe whatever nonsense they like due to their remaining ignorant about real world realities. For better understanding of deen of islam from the quran see HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE. This is the main reason why muslims in particular are at their worst ie because they waist their life in knowing things which have no real benefits for them in here or in hereafter.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

dear pakistani sb, ghamidi sb hun ya mirza m ali sb ya dr zakir naik sb ya deegar mullaan log, deene islam per ye log koi authority nahin hen. is liye keh ye log deene islam ke mutaliq bunyaadi tareeqe tak bhi nahin jaante jin ki wajah se quraan ko theek tarah se samjhaa jaa sake.

ghamidi sb ke mutaabiq quran ka science se koi taaluq hi nahin hai quraan bas aik mazhabi kitaab hai jo mazhabi aqeede aur amaal bayaan kerti hai. science is ka mozoo hi nahin hai.

khudaa logoon per azaab bhaijta hai. khudaa ne logoon ko apni pooja paat ke liye peda kiya hai. khudaa ne logoon ko aazmaane ke liye peda kiya hai. ye hai ghamidi sb aur deegar mullaan logoon ki aqal ki intahaa. khudaa se daraana dhamkaana waghera waghera hi in logoon ka kaam hai. lihaaza in logoon ko chhoren aur apni aqal ko istemaal main laayen taa keh aap ko quraan ko theek tarah se samajhne ka moqa mil sake.For better understanding of deen of islam from the quran see HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.

regards and all the best.
 
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