ملک بھر میں 2 شوال کے چاندکا مشاہدہ لاکھوں لوگوں نے کیا،وزارت مذہبی امور

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
jahil awam hai. last year jahil awam keh rahi thi ke fawad ch sahi keh raha. science ka use karo yeh wo halakey eid science ke mutabiq hi hoi thi.

ab wohi fawad ch keh raha ke saudia ke sath karney ki waja se kar rahay tou aus ko side kardia.

please correct me if i am wrong in this

ajeeb masla hai
saudia mai roza -30
pakistan mai -29
india mai -30
bangladesh mai -30
afghanistan mai -30

yeh kesa chand hai jo sirf pakistan ke roza 29 karwa raha baki sab ke 30?

kuch ghalat ho above tou correction karwa deiga thanks. ALLAH hum sab ki ibadatein aur roza qabool farmai aur ghaltio ko Maaf farmai. Ameen.
billions? you need medical help.

chand tha tou kitni gawahi ai lahore, islamabad se karachi se?

bangladesh, india mei chand kaha gaya?

aur kpk se 100 shahdatein kesay mil gai jab ke as per fawad ch tweet jis ko last year tak sab wah wah kartay thai ke 13 hours.ka chand dekhna possible hi nahi 20 hours.ka chand dekhna possible hota hai.

saudia ke sath thats the only reason ab justify kartay raho.

abhi east pakistan west pakistan hota tou east mai chand dekhtay aur west mai bhi eid manatay?

fawad chaudhry is wrong. Usko science ka kukh nahi pata.

Moon was not visible to naked eye but could be seen with optical aid like telescope or binoculars. If optical aid is not available, then moon can also be seen from top of hill if the sky is clear.
 

AZ1

MPA (400+ posts)
fawad chaudhry is wrong. Usko science ka kukh nahi pata.

Moon was not visible to naked eye but could be seen with optical aid like telescope or binoculars. If optical aid is not available, then moon can also be seen from top of hill if the sky is clear.
ok ap ki bat maan li jaye tou ager clear tha tou it took 20-23 hours for video or pics to come even in media news there was nothing yesterday that is one thing.

other is all your surrounding countries are having 30 roza while special pakistani ppl had 29 roza. even i think popalzai had 30 roza because they always started with saudia and saudia and afghanistan had 30 roza.

how come we had 29 roza? are we super special?

hum sab apni islah khud karein. hamare roza ka jawab koiye aur nahi deiga. ke qazi ke uprr hai yeh wo. roza maaf nahi kisi ko baat khatm.
 
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arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ok ap ki bat maan li jaye tou ager clear tha tou it took 20-23 hours for video or pics to come even in media news there was nothing yesterday that is one thing.

other is all your surrounding countries are having 30 roza while special pakistani ppl had 29 roza. even i think popalzai had 30 roza because they always started with saudia and saudia and afghanistan had 30 roza.

how come we had 29 roza? are we super special?

hum sab apni islah khud karein. hamare roza ka jawab koiye aur nahi deiga. ke qazi ke uprr hai yeh wo. roza maaf nahi kisi ko baat khatm.

There were many reports even yesterday and at least 3 photos and 1 video of moon sighting. Check this twitter handle i have shared already.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RegnlTelegraph

It is very much possible that ome country has 30 roza and another country has 29 roza in the same year. It has happened many times before.

The main issue is should we accept the testimony of muslim witness or not. If there are 8-10 people from 1 city claiming to have seen the moon then it can be ignored. But when dozens of people from different cities of different provinces and ethinicities make the same claim then it becomes impossible to ignore. This is what happened yesterday.

Again this twitter handle mentions at least 8-10 different cities of kpk and balochistan all saying the same thing.

Balochistan: Ziarat, Chaman, Pasni, Kohlu, Gawader, Turbat, qila saifullah, Loralai

KpK: Hangu, mardan, charsadda, dir, bajur,

Why would all these people different from remote areas, speaking different language, who have never met each other lie simulatenouesly?
 

AZ1

MPA (400+ posts)
There were many reports even yesterday and at least 3 photos and 1 video of moon sighting. Check this twitter handle i have shared already.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RegnlTelegraph

It is very much possible that ome country has 30 roza and another country has 29 roza in the same year. It has happened many times before.

The main issue is should we accept the testimony of muslim witness or not. If there are 8-10 people from 1 city claiming to have seen the moon then it can be ignored. But when dozens of people from different cities of different provinces and ethinicities make the same claim then it becomes impossible to ignore. This is what happened yesterday.

Again this twitter handle mentions at least 8-10 different cities of kpk and balochistan all saying the same thing.

Balochistan: Ziarat, Chaman, Pasni, Kohlu, Gawader, Turbat, qila saifullah, Loralai

KpK: Hangu, mardan, charsadda, dir, bajur,

Why would all these people different from remote areas, speaking different language, who have never met each other lie simulatenouesly?
bhai then how come this was hidden yesterday from Media News? it should be in news.

Twitter is not an authentic and we see how things manipulated on social media. I don't want to go in detail but then how come all anchors start saying same things against pti and all in many cases?

baki jo hogaya so hogaya jis ko rakhna hoga qaza roza wo rakhey ga jis ko nahi rakhna hoga nahi rakheyga.
29 roza sirf pakistan main baki har jaga 30 roza baki ap dekh lein.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
jahil awam hai. last year jahil awam keh rahi thi ke fawad ch sahi keh raha. science ka use karo yeh wo halakey eid science ke mutabiq hi hoi thi.

ab wohi fawad ch keh raha ke saudia ke sath karney ki waja se kar rahay tou aus ko side kardia.

please correct me if i am wrong in this

ajeeb masla hai
saudia mai roza -30
pakistan mai -29
india mai -30
bangladesh mai -30
afghanistan mai -30

yeh kesa chand hai jo sirf pakistan ke roza 29 karwa raha baki sab ke 30?

kuch ghalat ho above tou correction karwa deiga thanks. ALLAH hum sab ki ibadatein aur roza qabool farmai aur ghaltio ko Maaf farmai. Ameen.
it depends on weather. so if weather is clear and moon is sighted, no need to do 30 roza, but if weather is not fine and none gave shahda of moon sighting, then go ahead do 30 roza and then eid. Simple.
Problem is , in Pakistan we have problems due to sects. I think, yesterday, it was clear that Raut-e-Hilal was right. They accepted KPK/Balochistan sighting reports. Which was right thing to do.
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
bhai then how come this was hidden yesterday from Media News? it should be in news.

Twitter is not an authentic and we see how things manipulated on social media. I don't want to go in detail but then how come all anchors start saying same things against pti and all in many cases?

baki jo hogaya so hogaya jis ko rakhna hoga qaza roza wo rakhey ga jis ko nahi rakhna hoga nahi rakheyga.
29 roza sirf pakistan main baki har jaga 30 roza baki ap dekh lein.

I dont trust mainstream media specially on islamic issues. Their goal is to create confusion so that people become fed up or make fun of islam. For the last many years media covers populzai every year. This year govt and poplzai on same page so the media went to mufti muneeb. He is a nobody now so why interview him? Because they want to create a controversy. Same reason why media highlights with Fawad chaudhry on this issue even though he is no longer minister science and technology.

But in case of fawad chauhdry at least his argument makes sense. He says we should use calculations instead of outdated methods of moon sighting. No other country except pakistan has a ruet -e- hilal committee headed by group of molanas.
 
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