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<ChOuDhArY>

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Koi media wala PPP se swal nhi kr rha kh Sindh mn PPP ke 11 candidates kiyoon hn..

Munafiq Media and Patwari Election commission
 

Multani Malang

Voter (50+ posts)
Amazed! Earlier they claimed 12 MNAs of PTI are with them on condition of PMLN tickets and now MQM. It seems Zardari's strategy is failing against the establishment. 🤣

Let us see 3rd March isn't far away.
 

Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
PTI estimates that it will get 2 Senate seats from Sindh based on its strength. But, keeping in view the utmost ‘efforts’ of Zardari, PPP will get one more seat from Sindh and PTI will have to be content with one Senate seat only. Either Saifullah Abro or Vowda will win but not both.

From Islamabad, Hafeez Sheikh will win over Gilani.
 

Nice2MU

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
پی پی پی والے مرے جا رہے ہیں سینٹ کی سیٹوں کے لیے۔۔۔ ہر جگہ میڈیا کے ذریعے بہت ایک ہنگامہ بنایا ہوا ہے لیکن اندر سے کچھ نہیں۔۔۔ سندھ میں اپنی سیٹیں بچائے۔۔۔ باقی کی فکر چھوڑ دے۔
 

Nice2MU

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
PTI estimates that it will get 2 Senate seats from Sindh based on its strength. But, keeping in view the utmost ‘efforts’ of Zardari, PPP will get one more seat from Sindh and PTI will have to be content with one Senate seat only. Either Saifullah Abro or Vowda will win but not both.

From Islamabad, Hafeez Sheikh will win over Gilani.

No more Saifullah... NAB gona arrest him.

I don't know which idiot had get ticket for this Saifullah....? And is there any covering candidate for him or not?
 

<ChOuDhArY>

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No more Saifullah... NAB gona arrest him.

I don't know which idiot had get ticket for this Saifullah....? And is there any covering candidate for him or not?

Its not only Saifullah.. but the other seat might create problems for PTI..

Once Faisal is elected, PPP can approach Courts and there are big chances that Courts will give decision against him and if he is disqualified then it means another sure seat for PPP in Sindh. you know how courts usually provide quick justice to selected families.

Difficult to understand Why taking such a big risk when PTI can easily win 1 general seat in Sindh.

- Similar blunder in Baluchistan.. and PTI is effectively giving away 1 seat.

In general it seems that PTI has no real policy on senate elections.. and PTI is only relying on SCP's order.. they are expecting that court will order traceable voting.. but if this will not happen then it will be a greatest blunder of this Govt.

One side PDM is spending billions to get 1 extra seats.. and on other PTI is distributing its seats to others.
 

Nice2MU

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Its not only Saifullah.. but the other seat might create problems for PTI..

Once Faisal is elected, PPP can approach Courts and there are big chances that Courts will give decision against him and if he is disqualified then it means another sure seat for PPP in Sindh. you know how courts usually provide quick justice to selected families.

Difficult to understand Why taking such a big risk when PTI can easily win 1 general seat in Sindh.

- Similar blunder in Baluchistan.. and PTI is effectively giving away 1 seat.

In general it seems that PTI has no real policy on senate elections.. and PTI is only relying on SCP's order.. they are expecting that court will order traceable voting.. but if this will not happen then it will be a greatest blunder of this Govt.

One side PDM is spending billions to get 1 extra seats.. and on other PTI is distributing its seats to others.

About Wada... No man. This time his documents would be clear and correct. In MNA applications, I think he had applied for withdrawal of Nationality after applying.

IK is surrounded by idiots and greedy people for sure. People like Imran Ismail is poisonous for PTI. IK trusts him because he is among the founding members but Imran Ismail seems so greedy. 1st he had won MPA seat and all of sudden he wanted to be the governor. Arif Alvi and Shah Farman did the same. They didn't bother that whether PTI would win those seats again or not.

All these three exploited IK for being the founding members. I don't like them at all. They all are useless and greedy people. Shah Farman left over seat lost by PTI in by-elections.
 
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<ChOuDhArY>

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
About Wada... No man. This time his documents would be clear and correct. In MNA applications, I think he had applied for withdrawal of Nationality after applying.

IK is surrounded by idiots and greedy people for sure. People like Imran Ismail is poisonous for PTI. IK trusts him because he is among the founding members but Imran Ismail seems to greedy. 1st he had won MPA seat and all of sudden he wanted to be the governor. Arif Alvi and Shah Farman did the same. They didn't bother that whether PTI would won those seats again or not.

All these three exploited IK for being the founding members. I don't like them at all. They all are useless and greedy people. Shah Farman left over seat lost by PTI in by-elections.

Agree !!

They were appointed Governors with a simple thought that a strong ideological party member can handle provincial politics but you are right they haven't done any thing in this regard and infact they are in headlines due to their cheap tactics.

Strong Governor in Sindh would have created problems for PPP but I never heard that PTI Governor created any space for PTI in rural sindh.. or tried to create any hurdle for PPP.. Infact it seems that he enjoys full backing of PPP
 

Nice2MU

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Agree !!

They were appointed Governors with a simple thought that a strong ideological party member can handle provincial politics but you are right they haven't done any thing in this regard and infact they are in headlines due to their cheap tactics.

Strong Governor in Sindh would have created problems for PPP but I never heard that PTI Governor created any space for PTI in rural sindh.. or tried to create any hurdle for PPP.. Infact it seems that he enjoys full backing of PPP


دو صوبوں میں کھسرے گورنر لگائے ہیں اور دونوں کا نام حرامخوری میں آرہا ہے۔ کے-پی میں تو چلو اپنی حکومت ہے لیکن سندھ میں تو ایک بدمعاش قسم کا گورنر ہونا چاہیے تھا۔۔ یہ لوگ عمران کیساتھ اس حرامخوری کے لیے دے رہے ہیں۔
 
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Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
Its not only Saifullah.. but the other seat might create problems for PTI..

Once Faisal is elected, PPP can approach Courts and there are big chances that Courts will give decision against him and if he is disqualified then it means another sure seat for PPP in Sindh. you know how courts usually provide quick justice to selected families.

Difficult to understand Why taking such a big risk when PTI can easily win 1 general seat in Sindh.

- Similar blunder in Baluchistan.. and PTI is effectively giving away 1 seat.

In general it seems that PTI has no real policy on senate elections.. and PTI is only relying on SCP's order.. they are expecting that court will order traceable voting.. but if this will not happen then it will be a greatest blunder of this Govt.

One side PDM is spending billions to get 1 extra seats.. and on other PTI is distributing its seats to others.
Vowda will not be disqualified by Courts if he is elected Senator on March 3. He would have been disqualified if ECP had decided against him in dual-nationality case before 3rd March. Now, this is not possible because ECP’s next hearing is on 10th March but Vowda will resign from his NA seat before that time if he is elected as Senator on 3rd March. So, on 10th March, ECP will dispose off case against him saying that no relief can be granted to complainant ( the one who filed case against Vowda) as Mr. Vowda has vacated his seat. ( When IK vacated NA-125 Lahore seat in August 2018, the petition against him by Saad Rafique was disposed off by Election Tribunal).

Now, let’s consider the next thing that what will happen if someone challenged Vowda’s Senatorship after 3rd March. It will have no effect on him because he was not dual citizen when he filed nomination papers last month for Senate elections. He was, perhaps, US citizen when he filed nomination papers for NA elections in July 2018. However, he left his dual-citizenship immediately afterwards. So, if someone challenges his Senatorship, he will have to prove that he was a dual citizen when he filed nomination papers for Senate Elections.

I hope that everyone will now understand why Vowda was given Senate ticket despite already being Member National Assembly. And everyone will also understand why Vowda was delaying his case for the past two years or so. If ECP had disqualified him from National Assembly before 3rd March 2021, he would have been automatically disqualified from contesting Senate elections.
 

<ChOuDhArY>

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Vowda will not be disqualified by Courts if he is elected Senator on March 3. He would have been disqualified if ECP had decided against him in dual-nationality case before 3rd March. Now, this is not possible because ECP’s next hearing is on 10th March but Vowda will resign from his NA seat before that time if he is elected as Senator on 3rd March. So, on 10th March, ECP will dispose off case against him saying that no relief can be granted to complainant ( the one who filed case against Vowda) as Mr. Vowda has vacated his seat. ( When IK vacated NA-125 Lahore seat in August 2018, the petition against him by Saad Rafique was disposed off by Election Tribunal).

Now, let’s consider the next thing that what will happen if someone challenged Vowda’s Senatorship after 3rd March. It will have no effect on him because he was not dual citizen when he filed nomination papers last month for Senate elections. He was, perhaps, US citizen when he filed nomination papers for NA elections in July 2018. However, he left his dual-citizenship immediately afterwards. So, if someone challenges his Senatorship, he will have to prove that he was a dual citizen when he filed nomination papers for Senate Elections.

I hope that everyone will now understand why Vowda was given Senate ticket despite already being Member National Assembly. And everyone will also understand why Vowda was delaying his case for the past two years or so. If ECP had disqualified him from National Assembly before 3rd March 2021, he would have been automatically disqualified from contesting Senate elections.

Agree with you dear. You explain it well.

But still never underestimate the "speedy justice against PTI" from Corrupt courts and Corrupt ECP. They don't need any reason to give their decisions against PTI.. just see the latest ECP decision.

Its the same example as Shahid khaqan's sister was disqualified from senate probably due to nationality issue in 2018 and now she is elected again. but ECP or Court will not consider the previous disqualification as dishonesty.. Similar Gillani is allowed to contest as well.. There are serious loopholes in laws.

Off course from logical point of view it is nearly impossible for corrupt judges and corrupt ECP to take up case against Faisal.. but sometimes when judges have no shame then they can do any thing to please their PDM Masters.. even something illegal..
 
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