ڈیڑھ سال میں پاکستانی کرکٹ ٹیم کا بھرکس نکل گیا

[Pakcola]

ورلڈ کپ ٢٠١٩میں پاکستانی ٹیم نے نو میں سے ٦میچ جیتے چیمپئن انگلینڈ نیو زیلنڈ ساؤتھ افریقہ بنگلہ دیش کو شکست دی پر یہ کارکردگی بھی ہمیں پسند نہ ائی ہم نے پہلے مکی آرتھر اور پھر سرفراز احمد کو زبردستی فارغ کیا تاکے اپنے بندے بٹھا سکے مکی آرتھر اور سرفراز احمد کی قیادت میں ٹیم کی پرفارمنس آج سے لاکھ درجے بہتر تھی افسوس ہمارے ،ملک کو میریٹ کے قتل عام نے آج اس نہج پر پوہنچا دیا ، عمران خان کے ہوتے ہوے ٹیم کی اس حالت کی ذمداری انہی پر آتی ہے جن کے علم میں ہوتے ہوے یہ سب فیصلے ہوتے رہے اور من پسند افراد کی بھرتیو ں کی وجہ سے پاکستان کرکٹ آج تباہ ہوچکی ہے, لیکن کوئی شرم کرنے
والا نہیں ہے

 

[Islamabadiya]

ورلڈ کپ ٢٠١٩میں پاکستانی ٹیم نے نو میں سے ٦میچ جیتے چیمپئن انگلینڈ نیو زیلنڈ ساؤتھ افریقہ بنگلہ دیش کو شکست دی پر یہ کارکردگی بھی ہمیں پسند نہ ائی ہم نے پہلے مکی آرتھر اور پھر سرفراز احمد کو زبردستی فارغ کیا تاکے اپنے بندے بٹھا سکے مکی آرتھر اور سرفراز احمد کی قیادت میں ٹیم کی پرفارمنس آج سے لاکھ درجے بہتر تھی افسوس ہمارے ،ملک کو میریٹ کے قتل عام نے آج اس نہج پر پوہنچا دیا ، عمران خان کے ہوتے ہوے ٹیم کی اس حالت کی ذمداری انہی پر آتی ہے جن کے علم میں ہوتے ہوے یہ سب فیصلے ہوتے رہے اور من پسند افراد کی بھرتیو ں کی وجہ سے پاکستان کرکٹ آج تباہ ہوچکی ہے, لیکن کوئی شرم کرنے
والا نہیں ہے

Thank you for making this thread. In my opinion, things were okish before Imran khan decide to being his friend Ahsan mani into pcb again. Everything has gone down since then. We have full fledge open parchis in our team, Wahab Riaz Shan Masood etc

 

[NeutralMafia]

niazi is pay b kuch reason nikal lai ga...

 

[NeutralMafia]

Niazi ko is baat ka ilm hona chahiay aik or saal perform nahi Kia to isay nawaz chor say b zayada ganday anday parain gaye

 

[Pakcola]

Thank you for making this thread. In my opinion, things were okish before Imran khan decide to being his friend Ahsan mani into pcb again. Everything has gone down since then. We have full fledge open parchis in our team, Wahab Riaz Shan Masood etc

you are Right, be Ready for losing against Bangladesh Zimbabwe Afghanistan Scotland Kenya Ireland

 

[Islamabadiya]

Niazi ko is baat ka ilm hona chahiay aik or saal perform nahi Kia to isay nawaz chor say b zayada ganday anday parain gaye

They are hypocrites of highest level, previously they made fun of IPL foreign players calling them Railoo katta
And in their own tenure same players when they visited where their heroes

Pakistanis have very little entertainment when it comes to International sports, cricket was a unifying factor for our nation and now even the cricket has been destroyed due to personal hatred and incompetence

 

[Islamabadiya]

you are Right, be Ready for losing against Bangladesh Zimbabwe Afghanistan Scotland Kenya Ireland

We might not lose against them but the thing is, we have been thrown backwards by current setup
Just finding out that Shan masood’s uncle is some PTI sapm, shameful of true

 

[Pakcola]

We might not lose against them but the thing is, we have been thrown backwards by current setup
Just finding out that Shan masood’s uncle is some PTI sapm, shameful of true

Same things happens in zardari/Nawaz S Tenure, but why it is happening in IK tenure who is loyal with Pakistan, who is stopping him to make Pakistan cricket better

 

[Memon Fayaz]

Perchi Cricket Board PCB..

 

[imran_hosein_fan]

We are told that these r the best players they have got! Bullshit players!! Shan masood, wahab riaz, imam ul haq, muhammad hafeez, shoaib malik, etc etc list goes on and on and on!! Poora board he madarchod corrupt hai, corrupt bhartiyaan

 

[Hussain1967]

Misbah ul Haq is the guy who is chiefly responsible for the demise of Pakistan Cricket. He should have been thrown out of Pakistan team after what he did in WC Semi-final in 2011 against India. Yet, he was able to play ODIs and T20s till 2015. He is the founder of cultivating defensive mindset in Pakistan Cricket since 2010 when he was made Captain after spot-fixing scandal of Salman Butt, the then Captain. That extremely defensive mindset paid dividends in very slow pitches of UAE but proved fatal for Pakistan elsewhere. Fast-bowling, which was once Pakistan’s main weapon to win matches abroad, went on decline since 2010 due to Misbah’s over-reliance on spinners. He regularly played with 2-3 spinners and sometimes with as many as four spinners in some matches. Hafeez used to bowl with new ball even in test matches in UAE. Once that strategy used to be used by India, but then India never won matches overseas in those times.

Ehsan Mani has been appointed PCB chief due to his friendship with PM while Misbah was appointed head coach, chief selector and batting coach due to him belonging to Mianwali and being a Niazi. Anyone who knows IK and his ego will know that both Mani and Misbah will remain at the helm of affairs as long as IK is PM.

 

[Okara]

We need to wait for couple of decades as Misbah is learning how to train cricket team and also how to select good teams.

 

[Saboo]

Same things happens in zardari/Nawaz S Tenure, but why it is happening in IK tenure who is loyal with Pakistan, who is stopping him to make Pakistan cricket better

What do you want Imran Khan to do? Run the country or cricket?

 

[Kamboz]

Misbah ul Haq is the guy who is chiefly responsible for the demise of Pakistan Cricket. He should have been thrown out of Pakistan team after what he did in WC Semi-final in 2011 against India. Yet, he was able to play ODIs and T20s till 2015. He is the founder of cultivating defensive mindset in Pakistan Cricket since 2010 when he was made Captain after spot-fixing scandal of Salman Butt, the then Captain. That extremely defensive mindset paid dividends in very slow pitches of UAE but proved fatal for Pakistan elsewhere. Fast-bowling, which was once Pakistan’s main weapon to win matches abroad, went on decline since 2010 due to Misbah’s over-reliance on spinners. He regularly played with 2-3 spinners and sometimes with as many as four spinners in some matches. Hafeez used to bowl with new ball even in test matches in UAE. Once that strategy used to be used by India, but then India never won matches overseas in those times.

Ehsan Mani has been appointed PCB chief due to his friendship with PM while Misbah was appointed head coach, chief selector and batting coach due to him belonging to Mianwali and being a Niazi. Anyone who knows IK and his ego will know that both Mani and Misbah will remain at the helm of affairs as long as IK is PM.

Our fielding was always lacklustre, but how did it get this low? What are the coaches doing, even after the first test, we didnt learn lessons. The only answer is that the players lack passion and dedication or rather they lack the talent.

 

[Saboo]

you are Right, be Ready for losing against Bangladesh Zimbabwe Afghanistan Scotland Kenya Ireland

Hahaha…..Win or Lose its part of the game…..Ab is mien kia?
Besides, it does not matter if you win or lose, cricket board and the players still make the same amount of money….

 

[Shahid Abassi]

مصباح نے پاکستانی کرکٹ تباہ کر دی ہے۔ نسیم شاہ جسے فرسٹ کلاس کھیل کر بہت کچھ سیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے اسے آسٹریلیا اور انگلینڈ میں فاسٹ وکٹوں پر ناکامی کے بعد امید تھی کہ اب مصباح کو عقل آجائے گی لیکن اسے دوبارہ نیوزی لینڈ کے لئے سلیکٹ کر لیا گیا۔ پہلی بات تو یہ کہ سکواڈ کی سلیکشن ہی غلط تھی لیکن پھر بھی اگر سہیل خان اور یاسر شاہ کو کھلا دیتا تو شاید حالات کچھ مختلف ہوتے۔ سلیکٹرز کو پی ایس ایل اور بنگلہ دیش زمبابوے اور سری لنکا کے خلاف پاکستان میں کھیلے گئے میچوں کی بنیاد پر ٹیم سیلیکشن بند کرنی ہو گی۔ پاکستان میں گھپلا یہ ہو رہا ہے کہ جس کسی کو نوازنا ہوتا ہے اسے زمبابوے بنگلہ دیش اور سری لنکا کے خلاف ڈومیسٹک سیریز کھلا دی جاتی ہے اور پھر وہ اگلے دو سال تک ٹیم میں آتا جاتا رہتا ہے۔ پچھلی تین بیرون ملک سیریز میں پاکستان کے خلاف ۵۸۹ تین کھلاڑی آؤٹ، ۵۸۰، ۵۸۳ آٹھ آؤٹ اور اب ۶۵۹ چھ آؤٹ جیسے سکور بن چکے ہیں۔ اس دوران نفرادی طور پر ۳۳۰ بھی بنے تین دڈبل سینچریاں بھی بنیں اور ۱۵۰ سے زیادہ تو شاید چھ یا سات دفعہ بنے ہیں۔ یاسر شاہ کے علاوہ کوئی بھی باؤلر قابل بھروسہ نہی رہا۔ یاسر شاہ اپنی امیدوں پر تو پورا نہی اترا لیکن نان سپنر وکٹوں پر اس سے زیادہ توقع رکھنا بھی غلط تھا۔ شاہین آفریدی اننگز میں ایک یا دو وکٹیں لیتا رہا اور عباس بھی شاید ہی ایک وکٹ فی اننگز سے آگے بڑھا ہو۔ یہ بھی کہا جا سکتا ہے کہ وقار یونس ہمارے فاسٹ باؤلرز میں ایک رتی بھر بہتری بھی نہی لا سکا۔

 

[Islamabadiya]

Hahaha…..Win or Lose its part of the game…..Ab is mien kia?
Besides, it does not matter if you win or lose, cricket board and the players still make the same amount of money….

Not really, more wins mean more media projection and brand value hence more money
If you understand cricket, you might know that it’s not only about winning and losing. It’s about intensity, professionalism and passion. We are lacking all of this and biggest if all, merit, in our cricket.

 

[Hussain1967]

مصباح نے پاکستانی کرکٹ تباہ کر دی ہے۔ نسیم شاہ جسے فرسٹ کلاس کھیل کر بہت کچھ سیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے اسے آسٹریلیا اور انگلینڈ میں فاسٹ وکٹوں پر ناکامی کے بعد امید تھی کہ اب مصباح کو عقل آجائے گی لیکن اسے دوبارہ نیوزی لینڈ کے لئے سلیکٹ کر لیا گیا۔ پہلی بات تو یہ کہ سکواڈ کی سلیکشن ہی غلط تھی لیکن پھر بھی اگر سہیل خان اور یاسر شاہ کو کھلا دیتا تو شاید حالات کچھ مختلف ہوتے۔ سلیکٹرز کو پی ایس ایل اور بنگلہ دیش زمبابوے اور سری لنکا کے خلاف پاکستان میں کھیلے گئے میچوں کی بنیاد پر ٹیم سیلیکشن بند کرنی ہو گی۔ پاکستان میں گھپلا یہ ہو رہا ہے کہ جس کسی کو نوازنا ہوتا ہے اسے زمبابوے بنگلہ دیش اور سری لنکا کے خلاف ڈومیسٹک سیریز کھلا دی جاتی ہے اور پھر وہ اگلے دو سال تک ٹیم میں آتا جاتا رہتا ہے۔ پچھلی تین بیرون ملک سیریز میں پاکستان کے خلاف ۵۸۹ تین کھلاڑی آؤٹ، ۵۸۰، ۵۸۳ آٹھ آؤٹ اور اب ۶۵۹ چھ آؤٹ جیسے سکور بن چکے ہیں۔ اس دوران نفرادی طور پر ۳۳۰ بھی بنے تین دڈبل سینچریاں بھی بنیں اور ۱۵۰ سے زیادہ تو شاید چھ یا سات دفعہ بنے ہیں۔ یاسر شاہ کے علاوہ کوئی بھی باؤلر قابل بھروسہ نہی رہا۔ یاسر شاہ اپنی امیدوں پر تو پورا نہی اترا لیکن نان سپنر وکٹوں پر اس سے زیادہ توقع رکھنا بھی غلط تھا۔ شاہین آفریدی اننگز میں ایک یا دو وکٹیں لیتا رہا اور عباس بھی شاید ہی ایک وکٹ فی اننگز سے آگے بڑھا ہو۔ یہ بھی کہا جا سکتا ہے کہ وقار یونس ہمارے فاسٹ باؤلرز میں ایک رتی بھر بہتری بھی نہی لا سکا۔

Pakistani fast bowling didn’t capitulate in a year or two. It started deteriorating during the first year of Misbah as captain. It was 2010-2011. He heavily relied on spinners and used defensive approach as his only option. As I wrote in my previous post, he regularly used three ( and sometimes four) spinners in UAE and two spinners in SENA ( South Africa, England, New Zealand, Australia) during the period 2010-2017. That approach destroyed/demoralized whatever fast bowlers we had in our country. It will take us , at least, five years to get out of the mess created by Misbah as a batsman , captain, and coach. On the other hand, our batsmen continued playing the brand of cricket that was suited to 1980s and 1990s. Misbah himself was ‘icon’ of that brand of cricket.

 

[Hussain1967]

What do you want Imran Khan to do? Run the country or cricket?

IK can sack his friend, Ehsan Mani, and can appoint someone like Javed Miandad or Majid Khan as Chairman PCB. Believe me, it wouldn’t take much of his time. After all, he spared some time to manage the ousting of Najam Sethi and appointed Mani as Chairman. No one then asked him how he got time to oust Sethi.

 

[Pakcola]

Misbah ul Haq is the guy who is chiefly responsible for the demise of Pakistan Cricket. He should have been thrown out of Pakistan team after what he did in WC Semi-final in 2011 against India. Yet, he was able to play ODIs and T20s till 2015. He is the founder of cultivating defensive mindset in Pakistan Cricket since 2010 when he was made Captain after spot-fixing scandal of Salman Butt, the then Captain. That extremely defensive mindset paid dividends in very slow pitches of UAE but proved fatal for Pakistan elsewhere. Fast-bowling, which was once Pakistan’s main weapon to win matches abroad, went on decline since 2010 due to Misbah’s over-reliance on spinners. He regularly played with 2-3 spinners and sometimes with as many as four spinners in some matches. Hafeez used to bowl with new ball even in test matches in UAE. Once that strategy used to be used by India, but then India never won matches overseas in those times.

Ehsan Mani has been appointed PCB chief due to his friendship with PM while Misbah was appointed head coach, chief selector and batting coach due to him belonging to Mianwali and being a Niazi. Anyone who knows IK and his ego will know that both Mani and Misbah will remain at the helm of affairs as long as IK is PM.

this Decision is hurting Pakistan cricket and fans