کیا زنا بلجبر کا محرک بے حیائی ہے ؟ دیکھیے جاوید غامدی کیا کہتے ہیں

Black_Falcon

MPA (400+ posts)
hum pata nahi q extreme pr he q chalay jatay hain, aik kehta hy larke jo marzi pahny koi issue nahi , Quran o Sunnat main aawain leekah hy kia , dusra kehta hy suub gunah ke zimmay dar aurat hy Aurat ny kum kapray pahny to rape hua wrna rapist ka kia kasoor aurat ka he kasoor hy , why the 2 extremes .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Simple c logic hy Aurat ka purda krna is mendatory ..compulsary or rapist ko ibrat ka nishan bana do Islami saza do phir daykho ky sy yea rape wagaira ky kum hotay hain .

there is no doubt there is no excuse for rape but again there is no excuse for any women to wear less clothes if she considers herself to be a Muslim
 

knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
ریپ کا محرک بے حیائی نہیں ہے تو کیا بے حیائی کو پھیلنے دیا جائے، پھیلایا جائے۔
Your argument is like this

(Patient) I ate rotten food last night , that's why I have a fever.
(Doctor). You are sick because you have a flu virus . Your fever has nothing to do with the rotten food you ate last night. Rotten food doesn't give sore throat.
(Patient) toh may apnay aap koh rotten food khaanay say nah rokon ? Balkay or daba kay rotten food khaon ?
 
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knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
hum pata nahi q extreme pr he q chalay jatay hain, aik kehta hy larke jo marzi pahny koi issue nahi , Quran o Sunnat main aawain leekah hy kia , dusra kehta hy suub gunah ke zimmay dar aurat hy Aurat ny kum kapray pahny to rape hua wrna rapist ka kia kasoor aurat ka he kasoor hy , why the 2 extremes .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Simple c logic hy Aurat ka purda krna is mendatory ..compulsary or rapist ko ibrat ka nishan bana do Islami saza do phir daykho ky sy yea rape wagaira ky kum hotay hain .

there is no doubt there is no excuse for rape but again there is no excuse for any women to wear less clothes if she considers herself to be a Muslim
Most of the people mix these issues that's why Mr Ghamidi was asked the above question. I know you are smart and you don't mix them but majority is not as smart. Ghamidi Sahab responding to such people.
 

atensari

President (40k+ posts)
Your argument is like this

(Patient) I ate rotten food last night , that's why I have a fever.
(Doctor). You are sick because you have a flu virus . Your fever has nothing to do with the rotten food you ate last night. Rotten food doesn't give sore throat.
(Patient) toh may apnay aap koh rotten food khaanay say nah rokon ? Balkay or daba kay khaon ?
تمہارا موقف کہیں یہ تو نہیں. بے حیائی ریپ کر محرک نہیں تو دبا کر کی جائے!؛​
 

knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
تمہارا موقف کہیں یہ تو نہیں. بے حیائی ریپ کر محرک نہیں تو دبا کر کی جائے!؛​
My joke is very simple and explains my point of view.
I guess I will have to explain the joke.
Continuing the joke.
( Patient) Tumhara muaqaf yay toh nahi kay eating rotten food flu kah reason nahi toh rotten food daba kay khaya jayay ?
(Doctor) No. Stay away from rotten food. . Eating rotten food will not give you flu but will kill you through diarrhoea.
 

Aristo

MPA (400+ posts)
My joke is very simple and explains my point of view.
I guess I will have to explain the joke.
Continuing the joke.
( Patient) Tumhara muaqaf yay toh nahi kay eating rotten food flu kah reason nahi toh rotten food daba kay khaya jayay ?
(Doctor) No. Stay away from rotten food. . Eating rotten food will not give you flu but will kill you through diarrhoea.
according to your statement ap bohat ziyada smart hain aour hum yeh issue samjhnay say qasir hain yani rap ka kapron say koi talooq nahi behaiye say koi talooq nahi to ap bara e mehrbani Be haiye ke muashray main nuqsanat par roshni dal saktay hain ?????
 

Aristo

MPA (400+ posts)
My joke is very simple and explains my point of view.
I guess I will have to explain the joke.
Continuing the joke.
( Patient) Tumhara muaqaf yay toh nahi kay eating rotten food flu kah reason nahi toh rotten food daba kay khaya jayay ?
(Doctor) No. Stay away from rotten food. . Eating rotten food will not give you flu but will kill you through diarrhoea.
society main koi 3% sexual animal hotay hain jo kapron say yan kisi cheez say nahi balkay fitari tor par he janwar hotay hain shiytani kam kartay he kartay hain on ka age say kapron say koi talok nahi but baqi rapist ke majority society khud payeda karti hay behaie say aour baqi different element say jin main behaie wala libas sab say oper hay
 

Aristo

MPA (400+ posts)
Mujhay samjh nahi ati yeh jo khud ko aqal mand aour baqi logon ko jahil samjh rahay hotay hain parday k mamlay main yeh parday ka hukam kisi insan ka nahi hay Yeh ap k creator nahi diya hay jis nay ap ko payeda kiya hay who ap ke fitrat say b waqif hay is liye osi zaat nay ap ko yeh restriction k sath zindagi ghuzarnay ka kaha hay phir b is behan main parna k behaie libas ka koi taloq nahi rap say etc pagal pan k siwa kuch nahi
 

Aristo

MPA (400+ posts)
Your argument is like this

(Patient) I ate rotten food last night , that's why I have a fever.
(Doctor). You are sick because you have a flu virus . Your fever has nothing to do with the rotten food you ate last night. Rotten food doesn't give sore throat.
(Patient) toh may apnay aap koh rotten food khaanay say nah rokon ? Balkay or daba kay rotten food khaon ?
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments.1 That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
 

باس از باس

MPA (400+ posts)
Your argument is like this

(Patient) I ate rotten food last night , that's why I have a fever.
(Doctor). You are sick because you have a flu virus . Your fever has nothing to do with the rotten food you ate last night. Rotten food doesn't give sore throat.
(Patient) toh may apnay aap koh rotten food khaanay say nah rokon ? Balkay or daba kay rotten food khaon ?

عجیب رنگ برنگی سی مثال دی ہے جس کا کوئی سر پیر نہی۔۔۔
 

باس از باس

MPA (400+ posts)
ریپ ایک انتہائی درجے کا جرم ہے جس کی کیپیٹل پنشمنٹ ہونا ضروری ہے بلا کسی حیل و حجت کے

بے حیائی ایک الگ بڑی برائی ہے۔۔۔ اگرچہ ریپ کے محرکات بے حیائی کے علاوہ اور بھی ہیں لیکن اس کا مطلب یہ نہی بے حیائی کو روکنا بھی نہی چاہئیے اور اسے بڑھنے کی کھلی چھوٹ دے دیں۔۔۔

چاہے کسی کی سمجھ میں آئے یا نا آئے لیکن لباس کا بے حیائی سے تعلق ہے۔۔۔

واضحدار گھرانوں میں تو مردوں کو بھی بغیر قمیض پہنے گھر میں پھرنے پہ ہزار گالیاں اور چنڈیں پڑتی ہیں کہ شرم نہی آتی گھر کی خواتین کے سامنے ایسے پھرتے اگرچہ کہ ان کا ستر ہی ڈھکا کیوں نا ہو۔۔۔ اور لبرلوں کے گھروں میں تو عورتیں بھی سلیولیس پہنے مزے سے گھوم پھر رہی ہوتی ہیں
 

knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments.1 That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

watch this video and try to understand the topic. . . .

 

knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
ریپ ایک انتہائی درجے کا جرم ہے جس کی کیپیٹل پنشمنٹ ہونا ضروری ہے بلا کسی حیل و حجت کے

بے حیائی ایک الگ بڑی برائی ہے۔۔۔ اگرچہ ریپ کے محرکات بے حیائی کے علاوہ اور بھی ہیں لیکن اس کا مطلب یہ نہی بے حیائی کو روکنا بھی نہی چاہئیے اور اسے بڑھنے کی کھلی چھوٹ دے دیں۔۔۔

چاہے کسی کی سمجھ میں آئے یا نا آئے لیکن لباس کا بے حیائی سے تعلق ہے۔۔۔

واضحدار گھرانوں میں تو مردوں کو بھی بغیر قمیض پہنے گھر میں پھرنے پہ ہزار گالیاں اور چنڈیں پڑتی ہیں کہ شرم نہی آتی گھر کی خواتین کے سامنے ایسے پھرتے اگرچہ کہ ان کا ستر ہی ڈھکا کیوں نا ہو۔۔۔ اور لبرلوں کے گھروں میں تو عورتیں بھی سلیولیس پہنے مزے سے گھوم پھر رہی ہوتی ہیں


Mr. Boss, You wrote.

" چاہے کسی کی سمجھ میں آئے یا نا آئے لیکن لباس کا بے حیائی سے تعلق ہے۔۔ "

Everyone agrees on that. Every woman who is roaming around in scanty clothes is spreading Bay-Hayai. I fully agree with that notion.

The point of difference is saying that Rape depends on the victims' clothing.

Read this article from DAWN, Women have written that they were molested while wearing Ahraam in Khana Kaaba (the most sacred place for Muslims)



 
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knowledge88

Minister (2k+ posts)
according to your statement ap bohat ziyada smart hain aour hum yeh issue samjhnay say qasir hain yani rap ka kapron say koi talooq nahi behaiye say koi talooq nahi to ap bara e mehrbani Be haiye ke muashray main nuqsanat par roshni dal saktay hain ?????
You wrote " according to your statement ap bohat ziyada smart hain "

If any of my statements has given that impression then please accept my apology.
 
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hawkkhan

MPA (400+ posts)
hum pata nahi q extreme pr he q chalay jatay hain, aik kehta hy larke jo marzi pahny koi issue nahi , Quran o Sunnat main aawain leekah hy kia , dusra kehta hy suub gunah ke zimmay dar aurat hy Aurat ny kum kapray pahny to rape hua wrna rapist ka kia kasoor aurat ka he kasoor hy , why the 2 extremes .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Simple c logic hy Aurat ka purda krna is mendatory ..compulsary or rapist ko ibrat ka nishan bana do Islami saza do phir daykho ky sy yea rape wagaira ky kum hotay hain .

there is no doubt there is no excuse for rape but again there is no excuse for any women to wear less clothes if she considers herself to be a Muslim
I was about to say the same, that there are two extreams one is saying that rape is only happening coz of valgurity and other is saying that's its only mental illness and there is 0% effects coz of valgurity.

There is no justification of any sort of rape and person committing the crime/sin should be hanged publically but if any one says there isnt any contribution of valgurity in this crime then they are living in cuckoo land.
 

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Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Invitation to rape
And committing rape
Inviting rape is still a bad thing especially when Quran has instructed pardah
Committing rape is itself a crime
 
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