Geert Wilders revives contest for cartoons that insult Prophet Muhammad PBUH

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yup and people who are reactive and violent are fulfilling that agenda.

Geert Wilder has an agenda to fulfill. As mentioned by previous posters, talk about Jews, Talmud, Mein Kampf and you will see where 'freedom of speech' will get you.
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
What do you think our puppet leader is going to do? Is he going to allow this to happen then when heroes like the one in my avatar (Ilyas) kick the accursed in act, will Imran Khan come on TV, do a speech, blah blah and earn praises from youthiya brigade?

Why don't our leaders ever protest before the act happens and prevent it?
This is 1998
DqsgM8lWsAYDWVp

and this is 2019
https://twitter.com/x/status/1209737986461618181
Look at his choices of people. The economy already handed over to IMF.
I am not sure what to say. Previous governments were corrupt but non tried to be the messiah.
Imran is an extremely dishonest man, anything he says, one should be thinking the opposite. The fun and mockery time is gone. His pretending to be a phudu has gone way too far. There is a possibility that he is a useful idiot like mujeeb ur rahman, i mean why would you give your daughter to a man who is against your existence. No one strengthens their enemy.
The way he deceived people about kashmir and the way he is acting in front of india is alarming. I am highly doubtful about his true identity.
Whether he speaks about it or not he must never be trusted. His actions are way louder than his words and all of his actions are anti islam. It seems that he is on a mission to change the very foundation of Pakistan.
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is 1998
DqsgM8lWsAYDWVp

and this is 2019
https://twitter.com/x/status/1209737986461618181
Look at his choices of people. The economy already handed over to IMF.
I am not sure what to say. Previous governments were corrupt but non tried to be the messiah.
Imran is an extremely dishonest man, anything he says, one should be thinking the opposite. The fun and mockery time is gone. His pretending to be a phudu has gone way too far. There is a possibility that he is a useful idiot like mujeeb ur rahman, i mean why would you give your daughter to a man who is against your existence. No one strengthens their enemy.
The way he deceived people about kashmir and the way he is acting in front of india is alarming. I am highly doubtful about his true identity.
Whether he speaks about it or not he must never be trusted. His actions are way louder than his words and all of his actions are anti islam. It seems that he is on a mission to change the very foundation of Pakistan.

That's exactly what i have noticed. The things Imran Khan are doing, not long ago the same things created a storm and were considered extremely bad. I am really surprised how quickly the morality of people have gone down, it's really strange to me.

Maybe this shows you can really change the perception of people if you utter a lie enough times. The Nazis used to do this, utter an unbelievable lie time again and again and people eventually considered it truth.

That book you quoted is 100% right about one thing. Media is tasked with making Imran Khan the savior, the Messiah.

I am really afraid of talking about someone's faith but one thing i keep noticing again and again is his complete lack of Islamic knowledge. How many times has he given statements that hurt the feelings of Muslims?

I strongly believe that this government is on a mission to systematically destroy Pakistan. For whom they're doing it, idk. Could be America, could be China, could be even the Jews. Watch IK accomplish with his good looks and honesty what a decade of terrorism couldn't.

You go and ask any PTI supporters to list achievements of PTI and they will be like uhhh, hmmm but one thing they're sure of is Imran Khan is honest, his niyat is good and he is doing good for Pakistan. How did they reach that conclusion?

Media.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
He is just a petty man trying to stay relevant. Ignore his shenanigans. No need to give him more fodder to do his propaganda.
 

RAW AGENT

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He is just a petty man trying to stay relevant. Ignore his shenanigans. No need to give him more fodder to do his propaganda.
this petty man has given opportunity to mullas to make themselve televant .
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
That's exactly what i have noticed. The things Imran Khan are doing, not long ago the same things created a storm and were considered extremely bad. I am really surprised how quickly the morality of people have gone down, it's really strange to me.

Maybe this shows you can really change the perception of people if you utter a lie enough times. The Nazis used to do this, utter an unbelievable lie time again and again and people eventually considered it truth.

That book you quoted is 100% right about one thing. Media is tasked with making Imran Khan the savior, the Messiah.

I am really afraid of talking about someone's faith but one thing i keep noticing again and again is his complete lack of Islamic knowledge. How many times has he given statements that hurt the feelings of Muslims?

I strongly believe that this government is on a mission to systematically destroy Pakistan. For whom they're doing it, idk. Could be America, could be China, could be even the Jews. Watch IK accomplish with his good looks and honesty what a decade of terrorism couldn't.

You go and ask any PTI supporters to list achievements of PTI and they will be like uhhh, hmmm but one thing they're sure of is Imran Khan is honest, his niyat is good and he is doing good for Pakistan. How did they reach that conclusion?

Media.
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Two men came from the East and addressed the people who wondered at their eloquent speeches On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said. Some eloquent speech is as effective as magic.'
Sahih al bukhari 5767 Vol. 7, Book 71, Hadith 662

You are absolutely right, it's very difficult to raise a finger on some one's faith when they are declaring the shahada. But the principle set by our teachers to judge people on their actions rather than intentions is the best tool we have. And even if we reach to a conclusion that so and so person is a hypocrite but we have no evidence to present in shariah court to prove that, such person has to be treated as a muslim. But we must raise our guard.

I was going through my previous (2011) messages to see what were my thoughts about Imran Khan and came across some messages that confirmed my current position. Back in 2011 Imran Khan was introducing Ghamedi as a Fantastic muslim scholar and I commented, (Imran khan is the last candidate in today's politics with clean hands but why is he introducing Ghamedi as some good muslim scholar. Either he is not aware about islam or he does not know Ghamedi well )
Then I read a book by Kristiane Backer MTV to Macca 2012. She was x gf of imran khan and the references she gave in her book about Imran Khan's thoughts about Islam were not clear at all. You can't make anything of it, whether he was Sufi or shia or what and I pointed that out as well. And as you stated how many times he made such statements that shows he has no clue what he is talking about.

The other day a friend passed a comment. He said " Imran khan is lying about pretty much every thing. He refers to Allama Iqbal yet calls him ultimate liberal.


which means he has never read Iqbal. How is it possible that you claim to have read iqbal and you have such a horrible understanding of Iqbal and yet claiming to be his follower? If you remove deen from Iqbal you are not left with anything to be impressed with, if he has nothing to impress you then why would you follow him? Imran Khan asks people to read the sirah of Prophet Muhammad pbuh yet does every thing against the sunnah which means he is trained to say certain things that will attract people that identify with islam as deen. So that he can confuse their sense of what Islam would look like in practice. This is done on purpose as Dr Israr Ahmed pointed out here.


Imran Khan is not a very bright individual to come up with all these ideas, he is definitely being trained.
You rightly pointed out media is and specially was tasked with making him messiah. He is not responsible for any crime or any anti Islam or anti Pakistan action cause his intentions are good. He will never be responsible. The max you can be labelled as incapable or incompetent but not a con man. Speak a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.
You can fool some people some of the time but you can not fool all the people all the time.
Bro PTI members did not reach this conclusion about his intentions and honesty. Minority of them are lying and majority of them are conditioned.
And Allah knows the best.
 
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Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Two men came from the East and addressed the people who wondered at their eloquent speeches On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said. Some eloquent speech is as effective as magic.'
Sahih al bukhari 5767 Vol. 7, Book 71, Hadith 662

You are absolutely right, it's very difficult to raise a finger on some one's faith when they are declaring the shahada. But the principle set by our teachers to judge people on their actions rather than intentions is the best tool we have. And even if we reach to a conclusion that so and so person is a hypocrite but we have no evidence to present in shariah court to prove that, such person has to be treated as a muslim. But we must raise our guard.

I was going through my previous (2011) messages to see what were my thoughts about Imran Khan and came across some messages that confirmed my current position. Back in 2011 Imran Khan was introducing Ghamedi as a Fantastic muslim scholar and I commented, (Imran khan is the last candidate in today's politics with clean hands but why is he introducing Ghamedi as some good muslim scholar. Either he is not aware about islam or he does not know Ghamedi well )
Then I read a book by Kristiane Backer MTV to Macca 2012. She was x gf of imran khan and the references she gave in her book about Imran Khan's thoughts about Islam were not clear at all. You can't make anything of it, whether he was Sufi or shia or what and I pointed that out as well. And as you stated how many times he made such statements that shows he has no clue what he is talking about.

The other day a friend passed a comment. He said " Imran khan is lying about pretty much every thing. He refers to Allama Iqbal yet calls him ultimate liberal.


which means he has never read Iqbal. How is it possible that you claim to have read iqbal and you have such a horrible understanding of Iqbal and yet claiming to be his follower? If you remove deen from Iqbal you are not left with anything to be impressed with, if he has nothing to impress you then why would you follow him? Imran Khan asks people to read the sirah of Prophet Muhammad pbuh yet does every thing against the sunnah which means he is trained to say certain things that will attract people that identify with islam as deen. So that he can confuse their sense of what Islam would look like in practice. This is done on purpose as Dr Israr Ahmed pointed out here.


Imran Khan is not a very bright individual to come up with all these ideas, he is definitely being trained.
You rightly pointed out media is and specially was tasked with making him messiah. He is not responsible for any crime or any anti Islam or anti Pakistan action cause his intentions are good. He will never be responsible. The max you can be labelled as incapable or incompetent but not a con man. Speak a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.
You can fool some people some of the time but you can not fool all the people all the time.
Bro PTI members did not reach this conclusion about his intentions and honesty. Minority of them are lying and majority of them are conditioned.
And Allah knows the best.

I have read some of the Reham Khan's book especially where IK is mentioned because yes, to PTI members after the media campaign against her, she is a randi and slut but this randi and slut never claimed to be pious and she was the sweetheart and wife of Imran Khan at her peak and yet IK married her so i don't believe the nonsense bullshit that IK didn't know what kind of a woman she was, he knew full well, even Reham was surprised about the marriage proposal. So i believe her especially the facts which i can confirm.

Her book is really eye opening. She mentions Imran Khan is really superstitious and we can confirm it from his public life. The sajda of graves, the different rings he wore.

She mentions that IK is a druggie and takes some strong drugs, says things then later he doesn't even remember. She narrates an incident where, during Ramzan, Imran allegedly told Sahir (Reham’s eldest son) that he was a confused atheist. The next day, he didn't remember.

Well, don't we see Imran Khan as really confused in public? He makes comments that are stupidest and moronic and makes a fool of himself. This probably explains his countless Uturns.

She mentions that Imran Khan speeches are prepared and judged for public response by speech specialists. The Scandanavian model didn't stick with people and Riasat e Medina did so he started using this word. Using Mafia in his speech really hit well with people so he should use that.

Doesn't everyone says Imran Khan speeches are really good? Even i, today still love his speeches because of how well they connect and genuine they sound. Isn't it a proof of them being engineered?. Words are repeated in every IK speech. Mafia, corruption, Riasat e Medina etc. These are all words that are repeated because they connect with people.

She has mentioned how IK protects Pervaiz Khattak and JKT corruption and other scam projects especially the one by Asad Umar in KPK. Well, don't we see IK protecting his buddies now that he is in government?

There are also a few other things she mentioned which anyone can confirm from IKs public life and are true. So about the things that we can't confirm, i half-believe her.

She says IK is a homosexual, can't read Holy Quran (or can't read properly), PTI girls are happy to sleep with IK, his various misadventures with women, his illegitimate children, the amount of coke and drugs he consumes, basically painting him as the playboy he was.

For common people like us, these are really strange and out of this world things something happening in movies, really unbelievable so we reject them. But i think about how powerful and glamorous the life of politicians is and you look like Imran Khan, is it really that hard to believe? Look at the scandals, Hareem Shah. Qandeel Baloch knew about Bushra so many years ago. How could she have known?

I don't know if Reham Khan has said truths or all are just lies but one thing i am sure of and you said it too, Imran Khan is someone we need to be cautious of because he isn't the person he claims to be. Reham has taken names of people, different girls names. Why hasn't a single person who she named ever come forward and put a lawsuit?. This to me gives her some authenticity.

I look at different people, Ayesha Gulali, Reham Khan, Javed Hashmi, Fozia Kasuri, Justice Wajihuddin, Akbar S Babar, all of these people were extremely close to IK, all of them are now saying the same things Reham Khan wrote in her book. A) Womanizer, B) Corrupt and Corruption supporter C) Liar, D) Dishonest

So many people lie and Imran Khan is the only honest one?.

Here's something else (she's also mentioned in Reham Khan's book)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1212586610946125824
Pakistan is going to be very different 5 years now and we will all miss and regret 2018 when he came to power.
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
I have read some of the Reham Khan's book especially where IK is mentioned because yes, to PTI members after the media campaign against her, she is a randi and slut but this randi and slut never claimed to be pious and she was the sweetheart and wife of Imran Khan at her peak and yet IK married her so i don't believe the nonsense bullshit that IK didn't know what kind of a woman she was, he knew full well, even Reham was surprised about the marriage proposal. So i believe her especially the facts which i can confirm.

Her book is really eye opening. She mentions Imran Khan is really superstitious and we can confirm it from his public life. The sajda of graves, the different rings he wore.

She mentions that IK is a druggie and takes some strong drugs, says things then later he doesn't even remember. She narrates an incident where, during Ramzan, Imran allegedly told Sahir (Reham’s eldest son) that he was a confused atheist. The next day, he didn't remember.

Well, don't we see Imran Khan as really confused in public? He makes comments that are stupidest and moronic and makes a fool of himself. This probably explains his countless Uturns.

She mentions that Imran Khan speeches are prepared and judged for public response by speech specialists. The Scandanavian model didn't stick with people and Riasat e Medina did so he started using this word. Using Mafia in his speech really hit well with people so he should use that.

Doesn't everyone says Imran Khan speeches are really good? Even i, today still love his speeches because of how well they connect and genuine they sound. Isn't it a proof of them being engineered?. Words are repeated in every IK speech. Mafia, corruption, Riasat e Medina etc. These are all words that are repeated because they connect with people.

She has mentioned how IK protects Pervaiz Khattak and JKT corruption and other scam projects especially the one by Asad Umar in KPK. Well, don't we see IK protecting his buddies now that he is in government?

There are also a few other things she mentioned which anyone can confirm from IKs public life and are true. So about the things that we can't confirm, i half-believe her.

She says IK is a homosexual, can't read Holy Quran (or can't read properly), PTI girls are happy to sleep with IK, his various misadventures with women, his illegitimate children, the amount of coke and drugs he consumes, basically painting him as the playboy he was.

For common people like us, these are really strange and out of this world things something happening in movies, really unbelievable so we reject them. But i think about how powerful and glamorous the life of politicians is and you look like Imran Khan, is it really that hard to believe? Look at the scandals, Hareem Shah. Qandeel Baloch knew about Bushra so many years ago. How could she have known?

I don't know if Reham Khan has said truths or all are just lies but one thing i am sure of and you said it too, Imran Khan is someone we need to be cautious of because he isn't the person he claims to be. Reham has taken names of people, different girls names. Why hasn't a single person who she named ever come forward and put a lawsuit?. This to me gives her some authenticity.

I look at different people, Ayesha Gulali, Reham Khan, Javed Hashmi, Fozia Kasuri, Justice Wajihuddin, Akbar S Babar, all of these people were extremely close to IK, all of them are now saying the same things Reham Khan wrote in her book. A) Womanizer, B) Corrupt and Corruption supporter C) Liar, D) Dishonest

So many people lie and Imran Khan is the only honest one?.

Here's something else (she's also mentioned in Reham Khan's book)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1212586610946125824
Pakistan is going to be very different 5 years now and we will all miss and regret 2018 when he came to power.
This is crazy, how pretty much every one brushed off every negative thing about Imran and company just because almost all of us had this blind spot of unconditional loyalty towards him. This has been an eye opening experience and puts you on a very stricket path of putting people to test before committing yourself to them
It seems we all are getting exposed to right and wrong in its naked form. Historically all of our heroes, leaders, Imaams of all fiq etc, They went to jails, were tortured to death but never compromised on basic principles. Truth was their purpose at any cost.
Bro Reham Khan's book is about to be published by Hareem Shah in its practical format. I never read her book , just dismissed it as pretty much every body. But now any thing can be expected. I read you comment on Mubasher Luqman video that magically disappeared. Seems genee will be out of the box soon with it's full glory.