Joint statement of women jounalists : Attacks on women in media in Pakistan

The wizard

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Ladies journalist is not a whore of politicians,..
Ladies journalism is not about taking lafafa from other parties....
Ladies journalism is not about doing propaganda against elected government....
Ladies journalism is not about passing sexiest remarks on elected pm wife..
Ladies journalism is not about telling low fake platelets and helping him to runaway from country...
Journalism is all about giving news to public if u troll government then social worker will do same with u so why hue and cry???
Kal aik aur lafafa Jo buhat khush ho rha tha Kyu k Twitter NY "only follower can reply" option edit kr diya so trolling ni ho skti lakin TM logo ko kis NY ijazat di hai trolling aur propaganda krny ki haramio...
 

The wizard

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Two months ago they were all running campaign in favor of Shireen mazari when there was rumors that she is going to be removed because of bad performance look like it was all commitment happened between them
 

stoic

Minister (2k+ posts)
calling out a fake news peddler is not a problem 90% of the journalist have back affiliations with political parties or establishment or even external groups. BUT calling them "whore" and being handled my "pimps" is seriously fucking disgusting!
nopes! just because you angry at someone (which is justified) you cant slander them like this, this is against ethical standards (contemporary or religious , specially in the one defined in Islam)

by the way
Websters dictionary defines whore as :

whore
[ hawr, hohr or, often, hoor ]SHOW IPA
SEE SYNONYMS FOR whore ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
a person who engages in promiscuous sex for money; prostitute.
Disparaging and Offensive. a person who is sexually promiscuous.
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verb (used without object), whored, whor·ing.
to act as a whore.
to consort with whores.
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verb (used with object), whored, whor·ing.
to put to a base or unworthy use (sometimes followed by out):He’s whoring out his skills by writing for popular magazines.
Obsolete. to make a whore of; corrupt; debauch.
Whores at work...




 

Dr Adam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
problem with these media whores and their fake news peddling pimps on this forum is that they hate getting called out. They want to be able to peddle fake news and insult anyone they want for fake internet likes and retweets
without getting the same treatment in return because their tiny egos get hurt and they start playing victim card
To be honest PMLn trolls arent any better. I hate to admit this, but among the big 3, PPP trolls are the most behaved ones. (not endorsing PPP here, as a party they are corrupt as hell)
Har shakh per ullo betha hay , anjam e gulistan kia hoga.
nopes! just because you angry at someone (which is justified) you cant slander them like this, this is against ethical standards by the way Websters dictionary defines whore as :
whore
[ hawr, hohr or, often, hoor ]SHOW IPA
noun
verb (used without object), whored, whor·ing.
verb (used with object), whored, whor·ing.


بھائی آپ تو سٹوئیک اور ہیٹ_نورآز کے کمینٹس کو دل پر ہی لے گئے . یہ تو مانتے ہیں ناں کہ دوسروں کے دلوں کے حال کوئی دوسرا نہیں جان سکتا ؟ لیکن بہرحال پھر بھی آپ کے جذبے کی قدر ہے
چائینا کا تو پتا نہیں جہاں شاید آپ قیام پذیر ہیں لیکن دنیا ساری میں دیکھا اور سنا تو یہی ہے کہ نام نہاد صحافیوں (مرد ہو یا عورت) کے لیے جو ہر بات پر دن رات جھوٹ پر جھوٹ بولتے ہیں اور ہر خبر کو اپنے آقاؤں کے لیے سپن دیتے ہیں انھیں اسی لقب سے نوازا جاتا ہے جس کا لٹرل ٹرم میں مطلب "سخت ترین جھوٹے" لیا جاتا ہے

Are you sure what you have in your mind for this word is the same..... the duo were thinking when they wrote their comments ??
What if they were thinking about WHORE in this context: WHO RE 🤔

WHO
's WHO in RE to journalism!

So I take their comments the way I think...... thereby meaning, its a relative term when uttered in the journalistic jargon. Therefore:
مٹی پاؤ تے گل مکاؤ
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
problem with these media whores and their fake news peddling pimps on this forum is that they hate getting called out. They want to be able to peddle fake news and insult anyone they want for fake internet likes and retweets
without getting the same treatment in return because their tiny egos get hurt and they start playing victim card
تمھاری اسی گندی سوچ کی وجہ اس انہوں نے یہ سب لکھا ہے ، تم نے ثابت کردیا ہے انہوں نے بالکل ٹھیک لکھا ہے ، تمہیں نے اپنا ارگیومنٹ ہی انہیں گالی دے کر شروع کیا ہے ، تمھارے نزدیک ہر وہ عورت جو کام کیلئے باہر نکلتی ہے وہ طوائف ہے؟؟
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
To be honest PMLn trolls arent any better. I hate to admit this, but among the big 3, PPP trolls are the most behaved ones. (not endorsing PPP here, as a party they are corrupt as hell)
Har shakh per ullo betha hay , anjam e gulistan kia hoga.
The worst are PTI trolls.
 

1234567

Minister (2k+ posts)
Joint statement: Attacks on women in media in Pakistan

Vicious attacks through social media are being directed at women journalists and commentators in Pakistan, making it incredibly difficult for us to carry out our professional duties.

The target of these attacks are women with differing viewpoints and those whose reports have been critical of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s government, and more specifically its handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

The online attacks are instigated by government officials and then amplified by a large number of Twitter accounts, which declare their affiliation to the ruling party.

In what is certainly a well-defined and coordinated campaign, personal details of women journalists and analysts have been made public. To further discredit, frighten and intimidate us, we are referred to as peddlers of “fake news”, “enemy of the people” and accused of taking bribes (often termed as "paid" journalists or lifafas).

In some instances, our pictures and videos have also been morphed.

Women in the media are not only targeted for their work, but also their gender. Our social media timelines are then barraged with gender-based slurs, threats of sexual and physical violence. These have the potential to incite violence and lead to hate crimes, putting our physical safety at risk.

Lately, there have also been attempts to hack into the social media accounts of reporters and analysts, as well as limit our access to information. In some cases, journalists have been locked out of their social media accounts as a result of hacking attempts.

Women in the media, especially those on social media platforms, are finding it increasingly difficult to remain on these platforms and engage freely. Many now self-censor, refrain from sharing information, giving their opinion or actively engaging online.

These sustained attacks undermine public trust in journalism and go against the basic tenets of democracy. It is a public right to access accurate and reliable information, especially during a public health emergency.

We are being prevented from exercising our right to free speech and participate in public discourse. When we self-censor, others are prevented from receiving information to form their views, which is a violation of their rights under Article 19-A.

When attacks and threats are made against us, we do not enjoy the protection of the law as guaranteed under Article 4, and this is the direct result of the actions of those who hold positions in government and are affiliated with the PTI.

Last July, Shireen Mazari, the minister for human rights, promised to take notice of threats against journalists and to address the climate of abuse, bullying, fear and censorship. Ms. Mazari, we are waiting.

We demand that the government:

1) Immediately restrain its members from repeatedly targeting women in the media

2) Send out a clear message to all party members, supporters and followers, to desist from launching these attacks, whether directly or indirectly

3) Hold all such individuals within the government accountable and take action against them

We also call upon the Standing Committees on Human Rights of the upper and lower house of parliament to take notice and hold the government accountable by ensuring they acknowledge, apologize and list the actions they will now take to put an end to such a threatening environment.


Signed by:

Mehmal Sarfraz
Benazir Shah
Amber Shamsi
Zebunnisa Burki
Ramsha Jahangir
Asma Shirazi
Ayesha Bakhsh
Gharidah Farooqi
Alina Farooq
Coalition For Women in Journalism
Fauzia Yazdani
Sarah Atiq
Sameen Mohsin
Kamila Hyat
Rabia Mehmood
Reem Khurshid
Qurratulain (Annie) Zaman
Marium Chaudhry
Nosheen Abbas
The International Coalition for Women in Journalism
Ailia Zehra
Alia Chughtai
Reema Omer
Nazrana Yousafzai
Tanzeela Mazhar
Munizae Jahangir
Farhat Javed
Nasim Zehra
Aima Khosa
Aysha Raja
Nida Kirmani
Mehreen Zahra-Malik








A whore is called whore because she/he sell their body for money but these female journalist sell their soul for money, compare them, who is worst? whore or these female journalists?
 

1234567

Minister (2k+ posts)
تمھاری اسی گندی سوچ کی وجہ اس انہوں نے یہ سب لکھا ہے ، تم نے ثابت کردیا ہے انہوں نے بالکل ٹھیک لکھا ہے ، تمہیں نے اپنا ارگیومنٹ ہی انہیں گالی دے کر شروع کیا ہے ، تمھارے نزدیک ہر وہ عورت جو کام کیلئے باہر نکلتی ہے وہ طوائف ہے؟؟
He didn't abuse them as a female worker, he abused them because of their character, nobody abuse female doctors, teachers, nurses, police officers and so many other graceful ladies who are working in field, why these so called JOURNALIST are being abused? not all, only few are criticised and majority of them are there in that list.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
A whore is called whore because she/he sell their body for money but these female journalist sell their soul for money, compare them, who is worst? whore or these female journalists?
آپ نے انہیں پیسے لیتے ہوئے دیکھا ہے؟؟ جو خواتین پی ٹی آئی کو سپورٹ کررہی ہیں انہیں بھی ایسا ہی کہا جائے؟؟ بہت سی خواتین جو حکومت سے عہدے لےکر تنخواہیں لیکر پی ٹی آئی کے ایجنڈے کو سپورٹ کررہی ہیں یا جو مرد ایسا کررہے ہیں انہیں بھی یہی کہا جائے؟؟ یا صرف اس لئے کہ یہ آپ سے الگ سیاسی سوچ رکھتی ہیں آپ انہیں جومرضی گالی دے لیں؟؟
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

بھائی آپ تو سٹوئیک اور ہیٹ_نورآز کے کمینٹس کو دل پر ہی لے گئے . یہ تو مانتے ہیں ناں کہ دوسروں کے دلوں کے حال کوئی دوسرا نہیں جان سکتا ؟ لیکن بہرحال پھر بھی آپ کے جذبے کی قدر ہے
چائینا کا تو پتا نہیں جہاں شاید آپ قیام پذیر ہیں لیکن دنیا ساری میں دیکھا اور سنا تو یہی ہے کہ نام نہاد صحافیوں (مرد ہو یا عورت) کے لیے جو ہر بات پر دن رات جھوٹ پر جھوٹ بولتے ہیں اور ہر خبر کو اپنے آقاؤں کے لیے سپن دیتے ہیں انھیں اسی لقب سے نوازا جاتا ہے جس کا لٹرل ٹرم میں مطلب "سخت ترین جھوٹے" لیا جاتا ہے

Are you sure what you have in your mind for this word is the same..... the duo were thinking when they wrote their comments ??
What if they were thinking about WHORE in this context: WHO RE 🤔

WHO
's WHO in RE to journalism!

So I take their comments the way I think...... thereby meaning, its a relative term when uttered in the journalistic jargon. Therefore:
مٹی پاؤ تے گل مکاؤ
گالی دلیل کی شکست ہے ، جب آپ کے پاس دلیل نہ ہو گالی ہی ہتھیار رہ جاتا ہے ، آپ ان کی دلیل کا جواب نہیں دے سکتے تو گالی میں پناہ لیتے ہیں
 

Will_Bite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why can't PTI trolls behave??
Problem is widespread..not limited to PTI only.
Try talking to PMLN, and the discussion promptly goes to ones family members in no time. One look at the language used by PMLN officials, and it is clear why their followers are that way.

As for female journalists, I know nothig is stopping them from writing the truth...but apparently nothing stops them from writing lies either. All these journalists get their so called info from 'sources'....and when they make a claim which turns out to be true, they scream at the top of their lungs...but when their claim is false, they are nowhere to be found....noone apologizes, noone regrets.

Our media needs some training in ethics and decency as well. There is a reason why people are pissed off at them, and why they are called lifafas.
 

Will_Bite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
گالی دلیل کی شکست ہے ، جب آپ کے پاس دلیل نہ ہو گالی ہی ہتھیار رہ جاتا ہے ، آپ ان کی دلیل کا جواب نہیں دے سکتے تو گالی میں پناہ لیتے ہیں
Set aside the gaali galoch part. That is a separate discussion. Dont you think PMLN has created a culture of nurturing fake media by stuffing them with money, and sidelinign those who dont tow their line?

Go back to Hamid Mirs revelation in an old interview of how Nawaz Sharif forced him and others to write favorable pieces for PMLN, and how Hamid Mir was forced to resign when he didnt stop writing against PMLN corruption?
Go back to when Hamid Mir admits in a program that PMLN and PPP both pre-set their interviews with zardari and NS...

Then go forward to how Hamid Mir all of a sudden changes his tune on both of them, and how NS becomes nazriyati, and zardari becomes marde hur? THis is the two faced nature and lack of legitimacy fo our media, which leads people to the point of frustration.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Set aside the gaali galoch part. That is a separate discussion. Dont you think PMLN has created a culture of nurturing fake media by stuffing them with money, and sidelinign those who dont tow their line?

Go back to Hamid Mirs revelation in an old interview of how Nawaz Sharif forced him and others to write favorable pieces for PMLN, and how Hamid Mir was forced to resign when he didnt stop writing against PMLN corruption?
Go back to when Hamid Mir admits in a program that PMLN and PPP both pre-set their interviews with zardari and NS...

Then go forward to how Hamid Mir all of a sudden changes his tune on both of them, and how NS becomes nazriyati, and zardari becomes marde hur? THis is the two faced nature and lack of legitimacy fo our media, which leads people to the point of frustration.
گالی کا کیا جواز ہے؟؟ دنیا بھر میں صحافی بطور لابی استعمال ہوتے ہیں ، کوئی انہیں گالی نہیں دیتا ، کامران خان نے پچھلے دنوں کہا کہ اس نے بزدار کو پلانٹڈ انٹرویو کیلئے بلایا کسی پی ٹی آئی والے نے اسے گالی نہیں دی کیوں؟؟
 

1234567

Minister (2k+ posts)
آپ نے انہیں پیسے لیتے ہوئے دیکھا ہے؟؟ جو خواتین پی ٹی آئی کو سپورٹ کررہی ہیں انہیں بھی ایسا ہی کہا جائے؟؟ بہت سی خواتین جو حکومت سے عہدے لےکر تنخواہیں لیکر پی ٹی آئی کے ایجنڈے کو سپورٹ کررہی ہیں یا جو مرد ایسا کررہے ہیں انہیں بھی یہی کہا جائے؟؟ یا صرف اس لئے کہ یہ آپ سے الگ سیاسی سوچ رکھتی ہیں آپ انہیں جومرضی گالی دے لیں؟؟
My dear, they are opinion makers, they should not have any political affiliations, their job is to do JOURNALISM, if somebody supports IK government because of political affiliation he/she is wrong and I always oppose them also. As far list of female journalist is concerned, my dear, they are PUBLIC FIGURES like POLITICIANS, they have to face criticism.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Set aside the gaali galoch part. That is a separate discussion. Dont you think PMLN has created a culture of nurturing fake media by stuffing them with money, and sidelinign those who dont tow their line?

Go back to Hamid Mirs revelation in an old interview of how Nawaz Sharif forced him and others to write favorable pieces for PMLN, and how Hamid Mir was forced to resign when he didnt stop writing against PMLN corruption?
Go back to when Hamid Mir admits in a program that PMLN and PPP both pre-set their interviews with zardari and NS...

Then go forward to how Hamid Mir all of a sudden changes his tune on both of them, and how NS becomes nazriyati, and zardari becomes marde hur? THis is the two faced nature and lack of legitimacy fo our media, which leads people to the point of frustration.
میرا ایسا خیال نہیں ہے کہ نون لیگ ان خواتین کو پیسے ادا کرتی ہے
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My dear, they are opinion makers, they should not have any political affiliations, their job is to do JOURNALISM, if somebody supports IK government because of political affiliation he/she is wrong and I always oppose them also. As far list of female journalist is concerned, my dear, they are PUBLIC FIGURES like POLITICIANS, they have to face criticism.
تنقید سے کس نے منع کیا ہے؟؟ گالی کا کیا جواز ہے؟؟
 

Will_Bite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
گالی کا کیا جواز ہے؟؟ دنیا بھر میں صحافی بطور لابی استعمال ہوتے ہیں ، کوئی انہیں گالی نہیں دیتا ، کامران خان نے پچھلے دنوں کہا کہ اس نے بزدار کو پلانٹڈ انٹرویو کیلئے بلایا کسی پی ٹی آئی والے نے اسے گالی نہیں دی کیوں؟؟
گالی کا کبھی کوئی جواز نہیں ہوتا. لابی کے طور پی صحافیوں کو استعمال کرنا ایک الگ عمل ہے، اور اس میں کوئی مسلہ نہیں، کیونکہ اگر کوئی صحافی آپ کے نظریے سے اتفاق کرے گا، تو اس کو حق ہے کہ آپ کا ساتھ دے اور آپ کی حمایت میں پروگرام کرے. لیکن صحافت کی آڑ میں حکومتی نوکریاں بانٹنے کا عمل بھی ہم دیکھ چکے ہیں. اس کو کس زمرے میں ڈالیں گے؟ صحافت کی آڑ میں اربوں کے اشتہارات چینلز کو ملتے دیکھے ہیں ہم نے. ان کو کس زمرے میں ڈالیں گے؟

کامران خان نے جو بات عثمان بزدار کے بارے میں کی، وہ جائز ہے. بزدار بات چیت میں اتنا اچھا نہیں ہے، اور یہ بات ہی کامران نے واضح کی. اور جاک نہیں.


Our female politicians, as well as journalists, often brave the storms and demand equality. However, they are quick to use their gender to get brownie points. Benazir did it. Maryam is doing it too. Female journalists are not doing it as well.

Lifafa sahafi doesnt always refer to payment in cash. Payment is done in many different ways. Plots, houses, cushy posts with govt, or promises of one....we have seen it all. Guys like Irfan Siddiqui, Absar Alam, Mushtaq Minhas and Ataulhaq qasmi were not the best candidates for the posts they were appointed to.
 
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