There is no other solution besides a dialogue -Khaqan Abbasi changes stance

aneeskhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Likh Lo
Sharifs will come back with
Blessings of GHQ n Courts for sure
Like they were in 2008 by KAYANI N Kanra Chaudhry
Good thing Sharifs did ditched both of them and kicked them out.
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Likh Lo
Sharifs will come back with
Blessings of GHQ n Courts for sure
Like they were in 2008 by KAYANI N Kanra Chaudhry
Good thing Sharifs did ditched both of them and kicked them out.
He'll come back -- but probably not by GHQ or the courts - but in a casket or with the blessings of British government (for which there is a little chance.)

What about a grand "maqbra" of Bhai ala mizaar of qatil urf shaheed Bhutto at Mukka Chowk -Better it be called "no gaza peer ki qabar" or will that mountain be burnt in England - What are the plans for his "homecoming"?
 

aneeskhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He'll come back -- but probably not by GHQ or the courts - but in a casket or with the blessings of British government (for which there is a little chance.)

What about a grand "maqbra" of Bhai ala mizaar of qatil urf shaheed Bhutto at Mukka Chowk -Better it be called "no gaza peer ki qabar" or will that mountain be burnt in England - What are the plans for his "homecoming"?
Altaf Hussain Punjabi Hota Tu Zaroor ATA————-Koyi Shakk?
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ن لیگ والے اس کوشش میں ہیں کہ کسی طرح حکومت چوری کے مقدموں کے علاوہ ان کو جیل میں ڈال دے۔
پر
یہ سارے لوٹ مار میں ہی اندر ہوں گے۔



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Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Altaf Hussain Punjabi Hota Tu Zaroor ATA————-Koyi Shakk?
Unfortunately. there is some truth in that but imo, nawaz has gone too far and there is no hope. He along with his family is gone
The Issue is that pmln is a big party and a vast majority of the party do not agree with his narrative but is forced to follow him due to pragmatism. Further there is a small cult (slaves) of personality (whole mqm was a cult and political party simultaneously). Then there is numerous who have taken personal favors from him - in media and almost in every state organization including military and judiciary-- shafarash, jobs plot and much more has been Nawaz's politics - he even patronized drug dealers and criminal gangs. Then there is pmln's base constituency - the traders and big shopkeepers.- there is a definite class dimension to pmln and to its policies. (if we recall - one of the charges of Ghulam Ishaq was that nawaz (tried to?) gave gifts to generals and core commanders and judges (in hundreds). His father did politics by bribing and obliging and had treated whole government machinery as the factory owners treat regulators.
So nawaz is to be eliminated along with simultaneous reforming of pmln as well - which sooner or later is immanent.
Thus the cases of altaf and nawaz differ in scope - nawaz has ruled for long, has very big pocket. his party is large, a certain elite intellectually corrupt class has aligned with him and through these vested groups Nawaz has more access and depth compared to altaf. The character and the end are the same but process will reflect these differences.
Further altaf's personal following was militant (which was his basic mistake because militancy makes the leader wholly dependent on the internal groups and the outsider, in such case free and rational politics becomes impossible) but Nawaz personal support is corrupt elite and very small pockets of urban poor in a few cities - who are no less corrupt and are often criminal minded who form pmln local organization but none is militant. So rangers or even police action is not feasible even meaningless- With time such groups are to be convinced and neutralized or new faction of pmln has to take control.
Pakistan cannot afford another PPP cult , the followers of a tyrant murderer and compromised bb- constituting vested feudal, corrupt bureaucracy and poor powerless zombie followers in the countryside, all working for their own narrow personal interests. PPP has destroyed pak politics as long as it exists - not again.
 

نادان

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is PMLN’s tried and tested formula. Someone attacks and then whole party waits for the r
This is PMLN’s tried and tested formula. Someone attacks and then whole party waits for the response. Then someone else starts rapprochement . The threats given by them result in dialogue between them and Army. In doing so they get a good deal.

The role played by Ch Nisar in the past is being played by Khaqan Abbbasi these days.

Finally, both Military and Nawaz can’t go too far against each other because they both enjoy the same power base and know each other quite well. Both extract their power from Central Punjab ( an area roughly spanning from Attock to Sahiwal).
لگتا ہے اس دفعہ کچھ مختلف ہوگا ..یہ بہت آگے نکل گئے ہیں ملک دشمنی میں ..اتنا فوج افورڈ نہیں کر سکتی
 
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