Well done Akhtar Mangel

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
In these times of turbulance, when government is trying to save itself by hook or by crook and even government's own MNAs are black-mailing, Akhtar Mangel has shown some sanity and proved that there is still some principles in politics. Many of my friends here and in general on social media abused him and called him as black mailer etc etc, but today he proved by not voting that he had taken a principle stand and is adamant to it. Well done Akhtar Mangel, we may have political differences with you but you have shown that you are not hypocrite like many others around. Appreciated :)
 
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INDUS1

MPA (400+ posts)
In these times of turbulance, when government is trying to save itself by hook or by crook and even government's own MNAs are black-mailing, Akhtar Mangel has shown some sanity and proved that there is still some principles in politics. Many of my friends here and in general on social media abused him and called him as black mailer etc etc, but today he proved by not voting that he had taken a principle stand and is adamant to it. Well done Akhtar Mangel, we may have political differences with you but you have shown that you are not hypocrite like many others around. Appreciated :)
Is there a more hated creature on this planet than BALOCH SARDARS, they eat their men flesh, they take all the money given to balochistan, they are against building schools and hospitals in there, they them selves live like royals and their subjects like worms. They take make money from foreign govts and do terrorist activities in pakistan. Now they say gov't is not cooperating with them. They just need funds which they will never spend on people. Let this MENGAL go to hell. Budget is passed even without him.
 

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
Has this opportunist sardar condemnd today's terrorist attack on PSX?
You mean he is favoring anti Pakistan activities? If that is the case, then why our government is trying so hard to bring them back, and not once but multiple times.
 

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
Is there a more hated creature on this planet than BALOCH SARDARS, they eat their men flesh, they take all the money given to balochistan, they are against building schools and hospitals in there, they them selves live like royals and their subjects like worms. They take make money from foreign govts and do terrorist activities in pakistan. Now they say gov't is not cooperating with them. They just need funds which they will never spend on people. Let this MENGAL go to hell. Budget is passed even without him.
Sir, please do not measure all of them with the same yard stick, I have complete trust in my leader Imran Khan, if he has joined hands with him, this means Mangel cannot be traitor at least.
 

Will_Bite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In these times of turbulance, when government is trying to save itself by hook or by crook and even government's own MNAs are black-mailing, Akhtar Mangel has shown some sanity and proved that there is still some principles in politics. Many of my friends here and in general on social media abused him and called him as black mailer etc etc, but today he proved by not voting that he had taken a principle stand and is adamant to it. Well done Akhtar Mangel, we may have political differences with you but you have shown that you are not hypocrite like many others around. Appreciated :)
Im not aware of Akhtar Mengals politics, but there was some mention in a talk show of how his family has been a part of the Baluchistan govt structure in one way or the other for more tahn 50 years since independence. His father, grandfather, and now himself.

Decades have passed by and this family hasnt been able to give diddly squat to Baluchis, and they want PTI to cover the gap of the past 70 years?

Principles my foot..
 

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
Im not aware of Akhtar Mengals politics, but there was some mention in a talk show of how his family has been a part of the Baluchistan govt structure in one way or the other for more tahn 50 years since independence. His father, grandfather, and now himself.

Decades have passed by and this family hasnt been able to give diddly squat to Baluchis, and they want PTI to cover the gap of the past 70 years?

Principles my foot..
Oh Come on, we all know how it works in Balochistan, and if we want to argue, just for the sake of argument, then go on, we can discuss the situation in Balochistan and role of our fouj plus agencies there...
 

Salazar67

Minister (2k+ posts)
In these times of turbulance, when government is trying to save itself by hook or by crook and even government's own MNAs are black-mailing, Akhtar Mangel has shown some sanity and proved that there is still some principles in politics. Many of my friends here and in general on social media abused him and called him as black mailer etc etc, but today he proved by not voting that he had taken a principle stand and is adamant to it. Well done Akhtar Mangel, we may have political differences with you but you have shown that you are not hypocrite like many others around. Appreciated :)
A Bentley driving criminal saardaar of corruption MUST die. Well done? No clean water.. No hospital..no health care no school in Balochistan? Well done for him self mother effing piece of tuttee. Menagal Gandowa.
 

xecutioner

Minister (2k+ posts)
I kind of agreed to the thread starter. We need to call a spade a spade.
But my only reservation is if he has condemned today’s attack and if he has not then we should not lose his support.
Mengal wants to know more about missing person and he has every right to do so.
 

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
I kind of agreed to the thread starter. We need to call a spade a spade.
But my only reservation is if he has condemned today’s attack and if he has not then we should not lose his support.
Mengal wants to know more about missing person and he has every right to do so.
Bahi we should only think that if Khan saab is keen to keep him with his government, then do we know better than Khan saab that we call him traitor and other such names. My respected forum members just do not think rationally and try to forward the same narrative which they just heard from some propaganda machines, specially those of havaldars. I might sound harsh by naming havaldars and I know someone will jump immediately to call me a traitor or even a hindu banya, but what is truth, that must be said.
 

Wake up Pak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bahi we should only think that if Khan saab is keen to keep him with his government, then do we know better than Khan saab that we call him traitor and other such names. My respected forum members just do not think rationally and try to forward the same narrative which they just heard from some propaganda machines, specially those of havaldars. I might sound harsh by naming havaldars and I know someone will jump immediately to call me a traitor or even a hindu banya, but what is truth, that must be said.
What is your point? You sound dubious here. You are a wolf in a lion's skin.
Why blaming the Pak army?
 

Wake up Pak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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جس ماما قدیر کو حامد میر ہیرو بناتا رہا اس کی دہشت گرد تنظیم BLA نے کراچی میں دہشت گردی کے واقعات کی زمہ داری قبول کرلی ہے جو دہشت گرد ایران کے راستے بھارت میں تربیت لینے جاتے ہیں اور ممکنہ خودکش بمبار ہوتے ہیں ان کو لواحقین مسنگ پرسن کہہ کر پاک فوج پر اغواء کا الزام لگاتے ہیں
 

Kavalier

Minister (2k+ posts)
What is your point? You sound dubious here. You are a wolf in a lion's skin.
Why blaming the Pak army?
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but is it wrong to criticize Army for their wrong-doings? Even my leader was against their policies during the war on terrorism. As I said what is a reality, that must be accepted and the reality is that our army has always treated Balochistan as a colony and our enemies use this to flare up the Baloch emotions. I can imagine that before the independence of Bangladesh, it might be the same situation there and we suffered big time. But sadly, we did not learn any lessons and always tried to use force. Just imagine if Balochistan with population of less than a Lahore, could have been developed properly, the Balochis would have no reason to hate Pakistan, in fact they would die to keep the land intact where they and their generations would have been prospering.
 

Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
You mean he is favoring anti Pakistan activities? If that is the case, then why our government is trying so hard to bring them back, and not once but multiple times.
He gives his tacit support by not saying anything against these terrorist activities. This is another way of supporting terrorists, or at the very least, keep oneself safe from the attacks of terrorists on oneself. This is the same strategy which JI and JUI adopted regarding TTP.
 
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