Hassan Nisar, Pakistan's Creation & MQM

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I have recently seen a number of my fellow PTI supporters posting comments in favour of Hassan Nisar and praising him. Although, I do believe that there are some points which I agree he may be correct upon such as society being corrupt. However, I believe we need to fully understand what this person stands for.

Hassan Nisar opposes the creation of Pakistan. He does not subscribe to the ‘Two Nation theory’ and the Iqbal Ideology which Imran Khan values so much and which Imran feels has inspired him. Moreover I feel deeply insulted as a Pakistani when I am told that Pakistan should not have been created in the first place, which means that our identity as a ‘Pakistani’ would never exist. I ask my fellow PTI supporters can any Patriotic Pakistani subscribe to this notion? In my opinion, anyone who holds this view is a traitor. I have recently seen many protests in the UK of Sikhs who were extremely loyal to India, and they were protesting over the hanging of Balwant Singh in India, they were chanting the slogans of Khalistan and they regretted what a mistake they made by choosing to stay with India. One of the protesters said that the Indian army attacked the Golden Temple and the people who massacred the sikhs, were not brought to Justice. We should thank Quaid-E-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah R.A. for giving us a nation and a separate identity, and for not letting us be in the disadvantegous positions which the sikhs are in.

Secondly, Hassan Nisar openly backs MQM and says they (along with PTI) are the solution to the problems. It appears people have forgot who co backed Zardari to become President? It was MQM. Surely does this not make MQM responsible for the troubles Pakistan is in? Altaf Hussain is a British Citizen who has not been in the country for the past 20 years and he also states that the creation of Pakistan was a blunder. Hasan Nisar has paid visits to Altaf Hussain and it appears that he receives particular warm hospitality from MQM. Have we forgotten that Altaf did a Memogate scandal when he wrote to Tony Blair offering to spy on behalf of foreign powers? What about the thousands of people in Karachi who have been killed in target killings as a result of this mafia which has slept with every single government in power and are part of the status quo! Why does Hasan Nisar not see this if he is genuine about change?

Whilst Hassan Nisar had left PTI, there was one man who was backing PTI all the way through on a principled basis that he would never enter power politics, that person is Haroon Rasheed. This visionary intellectual was on his own fighting PTI’s case, he predicted in December 2010 that people would join PTI (at the time who would believe this?) in this video:


Hassan Nisar is a ‘ranter’ with no solutions to the problem. The real visionary intellectual and supporter of PTI is Haroon Rasheed. Hasan Nisar is a mere pujari of the ‘Rising Sun’. I would say to my fellow PTI-Ites please understand fully what Hassan Nisar stands for.
 
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woofer

Banned
PTI is nothing in sindh without mqm. Imran khan has already realized that but PTI tasobi people still giving him wrong advice.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree with your view point. Hassan Nisar has a very crude,uncooth way of saying things, to the point of being derrogatory towards th country at times and people most of the time.
He some how keeps himself on a higher pedestal and fumes and scorns at the rest of us, and at the Muslims also.
His understanding of mqm is also beyond my understanding, why he never critisizes them for their bvehavior is also a question mark, where as he is always readay to pounce and shred the army but never mqm which has been a part of each and every government be it the army/Establishment or civilian and yet has only some roads and concrete bridges to show for that. If mqm is such a fantastic party then how come in 30 years they have not been able to build a single trustworth step with any one of the political forces in karachi? What does hasan nisar have to say to that? Would he call them "Ghalazat and Ghatiya" like he calls the current political leaders? May be he has a life threat!
So there are many questions and untill they are answered satisfactorily I will keep my guards up and not praise himor hold him in high esteem every time he makes a favorable remark.
 

hamzabaloch

MPA (400+ posts)
Clip to nazeer naji ka hia..


BTw i am agree with the topic starter abotu Hasan nisar... For me Pakistan image is more impotrant than only PTI image..

So if a man is suporting pti aur mery mulk main ulti seedhi baty ker reha hia to bhaaaar main jaiy!!!
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Clip to nazeer naji ka hia..


BTw i am agree with the topic starter abotu Hasan nisar... For me Pakistan image is more impotrant than only PTI image..

So if a man is suporting pti aur mery mulk main ulti seedhi baty ker reha hia to bhaaaar main jaiy!!!

Yes, the video was used as demonstration what a 'visionary intellectual' Haroon Rasheed is, compared to Hasan Nisar who at the time had virtually abandoned PTI.
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
dont worry bros let everyone come and praise Imran Khan

My dear brother then what is the difference between PTI supporters and PPP supporters. The PPP places the party above the country and their leader above Quaid E Azam. Pakistan comes first. Yes, we love and adore Imran Khan and will support him to the very end. However, we must not make the mistake of other parties who place their parties above Pakistan.
 

warraich001

MPA (400+ posts)
do you what is our problem that we are not ready to accept our mistakes that our elders have done in past.... do you know what is advantage of accepting mistakes, so we don't repeat them in future..... plz go through history then you would find what blunders we have done..... do you ever realised that why he ( Hassan) hasn't good relation with "extremist" molvis although he knows that this relationship could create many difficulties for him.... even a life threat..... even mein hassan nisar ke har baat si itafaq nahe karta.... but lakin wo go baat karta he is quite realistic
 

warraich001

MPA (400+ posts)
Hasan Nisar is a mere pujari of the ‘Rising Sun’. I would say to my fellow PTI-Ites please understand fully what Hassan Nisar stands for.

if he is " pujari of the rising sun" then why he didn't support pml n or ppp. tell me.... he never doubted Imran khan honesty.... even he said in 2009 that he is too good for politics lakin wo bohat shareef hai or us ka mokabla mafias ke sath.... go marzi hai mqm ko marosi siasat ka nishan nahi.... go banda hai lower class family ka hai or deliver karne wale hain.... mustafa kamal best mayor..... ag tak un ke party ke ander koi crack nahi koi corruption ka charge nahi.... even altaf hussain utha kahan se tha.... to go cheez appreciate wali hai do appreciate it...thnx...
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hasan Nisar is a mere pujari of the Rising Sun. I would say to my fellow PTI-Ites please understand fully what Hassan Nisar stands for.

if he is " pujari of the rising sun" then why he didn't support pml n or ppp. tell me.... he never doubted Imran khan honesty.... even he said in 2009 that he is too good for politics lakin wo bohat shareef hai or us ka mokabla mafias ke sath.... go marzi hai mqm ko marosi siasat ka nishan nahi.... go banda hai lower class family ka hai or deliver karne wale hain.... mustafa kamal best mayor..... ag tak un ke party ke ander koi crack nahi koi corruption ka charge nahi.... even altaf hussain utha kahan se tha.... to go cheez appreciate wali hai do appreciate it...thnx...


As far as your comments relating to MQM corruption, I think your intellectually weak. Are you telling me crimes are less than corruption. Okay If Altaf is not corrupt then how has he built millions of pounds worth of properties in London, when he himself admits that he came to London with less than 5???????????? Just because the media has been scared off by target killings. We are not stupid to realize the reality of MQM.

Hassan Nisar had left PTI, at one point he said Imran was too good not to be in Politics! Therefore blind people like you do not see anything.
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
do you what is our problem that we are not ready to accept our mistakes that our elders have done in past.... do you know what is advantage of accepting mistakes, so we don't repeat them in future..... plz go through history then you would find what blunders we have done..... do you ever realised that why he ( Hassan) hasn't good relation with "extremist" molvis although he knows that this relationship could create many difficulties for him.... even a life threat..... even mein hassan nisar ke har baat si itafaq nahe karta.... but lakin wo go baat karta he is quite realistic


The mistake our elders made was by giving muslims an Identity? I think you deserve India where there is mass discrimination against Sikhs, Chrisitians and Muslims. As far as molvis are concerned, I have not mentioned anything about Molvis the deobandi school of thought was against the creation of Pakistan and now their people have been massacred in Gujarat.
 

blueeyes123

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
aik tu yahan par sab ko shah se zyada shah ka wafadar banne ka bohat shoq hai. Abey bhai jab Imran Khan Hassan Nisar ko apna dost aur Hamdard Samajhta hai tu tum logon ko kya problem hai. Agar wo charhte Sooraj ka pujari hai Tu Imran Khan ko zyada pata hoga. Aur dusri baat Uske viwes se ikhtlaf ho sakta hai magar wo auron ki tarah biko sahafi nahi hai. Aur aakhri baat ye key Hassan Nisar jo kuch kehta hai zyadaa tar talkh magar sach hota hai. magar ye tum logon ko kon bataye.
 

warraich001

MPA (400+ posts)
As far as your comments relating to MQM corruption, I think your intellectually weak. Are you telling me crimes are less than corruption. Okay If Altaf is not corrupt then how has he built millions of pounds worth of properties in London, when he himself admits that he came to London with less than 5???????????? Just because the media has been scared off by target killings. We are not stupid to realize the reality of MQM.

Hassan Nisar had left PTI, at one point he said Imran was too good not to be in Politics! Therefore blind people like you do not see anything.
har baat pe conspiracu theory.....uf toba.... karachi mein sab se zyda kon marta hai urdu speaking muhajir..... mqm ap unhe to nahi marte hoge.....when ever there is a action there is a reaction...0k.... media don't talk about mqm because they are afraid is totally wrong...... aik corruption ka charge nahe hai mqm noot even penny... don't you feel that should be appreciated..... have you ever saw altaf hussain relative in his party..... don't you think that should be appreciated......
 

warraich001

MPA (400+ posts)
The mistake our elders made was by giving muslims an Identity? I think you deserve India where there is mass discrimination against Sikhs, Chrisitians and Muslims. As far as molvis are concerned, I have not mentioned anything about Molvis the deobandi school of thought was against the creation of Pakistan and now their people have been massacred in Gujarat.
have I mentioned that creation of Pakistan was mistake........ hamare elders sirf muhammad ali jinnah the great nahi the purane ulama bhi the...... you said hassan nisar rising sun ke pujari hai then why he didn't support pml n and ppp..... ab ye na kehna ke wo mqm se dar gia tha plz:P.....
 

sabirmughal

Minister (2k+ posts)
My dear brother then what is the difference between PTI supporters and PPP supporters. The PPP places the party above the country and their leader above Quaid E Azam. Pakistan comes first. Yes, we love and adore Imran Khan and will support him to the very end. However, we must not make the mistake of other parties who place their parties above Pakistan.


Its ok brother

coz difference in PTI and other party is Imran Khan who dont like khushamdi people around him and he proved him

Let any one criticize or praise it will not make any change for Imran Khan from 16 years people were criticizing him and now same people praising him that will not make any change on Imran Khan
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
har baat pe conspiracu theory.....uf toba.... karachi mein sab se zyda kon marta hai urdu speaking muhajir..... mqm ap unhe to nahi marte hoge.....when ever there is a action there is a reaction...0k.... media don't talk about mqm because they are afraid is totally wrong...... aik corruption ka charge nahe hai mqm noot even penny... don't you feel that should be appreciated..... have you ever saw altaf hussain relative in his party..... don't you think that should be appreciated......

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