دیکھو مجھے جو دیدہ عبرت نگاہ ہو

Islamabadiya

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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دیکھو مجھے جو دیدہ عبرت نگاہ ہو​

میری سنو جو گوش نصیحت نویش ہو​

ہاں ہم بھی تھے کبھی "ٹکر" کے لوگ​

اور اب یہ حال ہے​

آنکھوں میں اڑ رہی ہے لٹی محفلوں کی دھول​

عبرت سرائے دہر ہے اور ہم ہیں دوستو​

ابھی کل ہی کی بات ہے پنجاب پولیس اور انتظامیہ کا بڑے سے بڑا سربراہ سلام ،آداب اور بندگی کرتا ہوا نہیں تھکتا تھا​

اب ایک معمولی سا سنتری بھی چپیڑ مارکر اور گالاں کڈ کے گزرتا ہے​

جا اوے حافظ تیرا ککھ نا رہے​


They all are dramay baz none of them is genuine
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why? Where is freedom of speech and expression? You call Imran Khan Charsi 24/7 but wants him and others from his party to be careful with the words
Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you go on public forum and use profanities and calling people names. There are and should always be consequences of such behavior.
And be honest with you Arif. This kind of gutter language was promoted by PTI supporters in everywhere.
It is always the leader's responsibility to keep their followers in line as far as decency is concerned. I hate this abuse of words. But I also have to use it often to answer them with their language and tone. But these Idiots are shameless as far as the decency is concerned. Ik himself known to be very abusive with his words and Language. .

Read what this Gunda Pouri has posted ... This is crossing all limits of manners and civility.
 

Shimaz

MPA (400+ posts)
There is a long history of such incidents, even in the time of the claimants of Riasat E Madinah. No one is condoling such acts, but Ch. Fawad needs to be careful with his words and his language as well. It was and still IK 's responsibilities to put a leash on some of his spokespersons as far as the choice of words and the language is concerned. It is quite sad to notice that Ik himself encourage gutter language and words spoken against his opponents on public forums and media. This kind of behavior must also be condemned.
First off, he did not use any "gutter language" as you want people to believe. This is a deliberate disinformation narrative spread by ruling quarters to suppress dissenting voices and actually justify cruelty, which you are doing. This is shameful for any civilised human being, let alone a muslim. And it's not like the ones oppressing them have said anything less, definitely more in their times but were never suppressed like this by PTI. And can you imagine the fabricated filth Imran khan has to go through on daily basis on his character? What kind of muslims you are to not condemn that.

And it's funny you are condemning an imaginary use of uncivilised language but excuse yourself from the physical criminal violence against citizens of Pakistan. What is a bigger crime to you? Use of harsh words or physical violence? Also there is no law in Islam or world that justifies such brutal and cruel physical crack down on people for speaking against a government or its institutions. This is not blasphemy or is it for you?.

If you don't condone this uncivilised state behaviour against its citizens, then I'd like to see you try condemning it for a start before anything else. As muslims, we should have courage to see and speak the truth. Or you can tell me where else in the civilised world this happens. You're either civilised or not. There's no grey zone here.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
First off, he did not use any "gutter language" as you want people to believe. This is a deliberate disinformation narrative spread by ruling quarters to suppress dissenting voices and actually justify cruelty, which you are doing. This is shameful for any civilised human being, let alone a muslim. And it's not like the ones oppressing them have said anything less, definitely more in their times but were never suppressed like this by PTI. And can you imagine the fabricated filth Imran khan has to go through on daily basis on his character? What kind of muslims you are to not condemn that.

And it's funny you are condemning an imaginary use of uncivilised language but excuse yourself from the physical criminal violence against citizens of Pakistan. What is a bigger crime to you? Use of harsh words or physical violence? Also there is no law in Islam or world that justifies such brutal and cruel physical crack down on people for speaking against a government or its institutions. This is not blasphemy or is it for you?.

If you don't condone this uncivilised state behaviour against its citizens, then I'd like to see you try condemning it for a start before anything else. As muslims, we should have courage to see and speak the truth. Or you can tell me where else in the civilised world this happens. You're either civilised or not. There's no grey zone here.
It is quite interesting that you are defending his words and his langue with his demeaners. And this is not the first time that he has done that. I still remember him slapping an elderly journalist in front of many hundred peoples and not a single word of admonish has been said to him by either IK or any of the PTI supporters.

It is a fashion to drive your will to get the condemnation of an equal act of brutality which has become a ritual in Pakistan. While it is certainty a condemnable act but can't be on just to please some quarters and for the sake of the one-party agenda. Had it been not done under the leadership and supervision of Ik himself, then yes, you can play a victim card. But since it was a normal routine under his rule, he can't be exempted from it.

Do you remember an elderly Journalist, Irfan Siddique, almost 85 years old, was arrested from his home, hand cuffed and was thrown inside the van for unsustainable fabricated charges. He spent a long night and many nights inside the cell on the crime he never committed . Do you want to know why ? Only because he was supporting NS and PMLN .
Do you like me to list many others, totally innocent people who were dragged through the gates and put behind the bars with not crime and no fault of their own?

Where were you when that was happening under the PTI rule?
Do you remember Javid Iqbal, the chief of NAB ? Have you seen his lewd video with a woman? Was he still able to stay on his post as a Chairman of NAB? While the whole Pakistan watched his video of blackmailing the woman and sexual comments?
What did PTI and its supporters did for that woman? Nothing absolutely nothing.

So, stop lecturing me on the morals and the oppression stories. I have seen them all. There is no difference between one from another.
Bring me some credible leader who has not been involved with these lies and fabrications, then talk to me about the plight of the people and about being Muslim.
 

Shimaz

MPA (400+ posts)
It is quite interesting that you are defending his words and his langue with his demeaners. And this is not the first time that he has done that. I still remember him slapping an elderly journalist in front of many hundred peoples and not a single word of admonish has been said to him by either IK or any of the PTI supporters.

It is a fashion to drive your will to get the condemnation of an equal act of brutality which has become a ritual in Pakistan. While it is certainty a condemnable act but can't be on just to please some quarters and for the sake of the one-party agenda. Had it been not done under the leadership and supervision of Ik himself, then yes, you can play a victim card. But since it was a normal routine under his rule, he can't be exempted from it.

Do you remember an elderly Journalist, Irfan Siddique, almost 85 years old, was arrested from his home, hand cuffed and was thrown inside the van for unsustainable fabricated charges. He spent a long night and many nights inside the cell on the crime he never committed . Do you want to know why ? Only because he was supporting NS and PMLN .
Do you like me to list many others, totally innocent people who were dragged through the gates and put behind the bars with not crime and no fault of their own?

Where were you when that was happening under the PTI rule?
Do you remember Javid Iqbal, the chief of NAB ? Have you seen his lewd video with a woman? Was he still able to stay on his post as a Chairman of NAB? While the whole Pakistan watched his video of blackmailing the woman and sexual comments?
What did PTI and its supporters did for that woman? Nothing absolutely nothing.

So, stop lecturing me on the morals and the oppression stories. I have seen them all. There is no difference between one from another.
Bring me some credible leader who has not been involved with these lies and fabrications, then talk to me about the plight of the people and about being Muslim.
So you can't even dare to condemn the heinous act of state violence against your fellow citizens, but cosmetically pronounce that it's condemnable. Why the empty long speech then? Drop it.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So you can't even dare to condemn a simple act of state violence against your fellow citizens, but cosmetically pronounce that it's condemnable. Why the empty long speech then? Drop it.
Have you read my first reply back to you?
Please read it again. I never condole these unnecessary arrests, fabricated charges and inhuman treatment of anyone. That was the summery of my 2nd post.

But Aap Bhi Aapni Adao per Zara Ghor karain .
 

Meme

Minister (2k+ posts)
Have you read my first reply back to you?
Please read it again. I never condole these unnecessary arrests, fabricated charges and inhuman treatment of anyone. That was the summery of my 2nd post.

But Aap Bhi Aapni Adao per Zara Ghor karain .
Aaj kal bare hole hole sophisticated chal riye hain.
 

Shimaz

MPA (400+ posts)
Have you read my first reply back to you?
Please read it again. I never condole these unnecessary arrests, fabricated charges and inhuman treatment of anyone. That was the summery of my 2nd post.

But Aap Bhi Aapni Adao per Zara Ghor karain .
I read it all. You accused IK of something he never did (but you believe in it because you picked it up from nonstop media campaigning against him) but implicitly supporting his character assassination in the most filthy way done by PDM et al. The logic you are presenting is: IK uses and encourages gutter language hence it becomes lawful in some way to crack down citizens of Pakistan and subject them to torture and whatnot.
That's what i am trying to tell you. Even if it was true and it's not, you cannot equate the two on any level in any civilised country. But that's not what it is. Hence your logics are also messed up. You need to withdraw your implication that use of any kind of language is an excuse enough for such criminal acts against people.

As for me, if i am saying words cannot equate physical violence, then it obviously means i don't stand for any of that. Specifically and generally all such acts are condemnable.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Abay gaandu, gaand Marwa Gandhi say haram khoor dsllay Choutiyay kanjar
Oyee Chutiya . You lost your marbles. You have been showing us the picture of your leader Ghandi moot wala ...

I think you need to fix your crooked teeth after the usage of tons of Naswar. 🤣
 

mujahidkhan

Senator (1k+ posts)
There is a difference , all you mentioned were criminals but look at PTI leaders professor lawyers professionals , no one Ty money in their accounts
 

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