Rebellion against a tyrannical ruler (Asim Munir) against Islam?

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The scholar Ibn Nujaym said “it is not permitted for there to be more than one state leader (Imam) in a time period. There may be many judges, even in one state, but the leader is one.”(1) Al-Bahjouri said “It is an obligation to obey the leader, even if he is not fair or trustworthy or even if he committed sins or mistakes.”(2) Abu Hanifa’s school says that the head of the state, the Imam, cannot be expelled for being a corrupt person (fasiq).(3) Hudhaifa bin al-Yaman narrated a hadith in which he said, “The Prophet (saws) said, ‘there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my sunna, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of satan in the body of a human being.’ And I asked the Prophet (saws), ‘What I should do at that time if I reach it?’ He said, ‘listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey.’”(4)

 

Rocky Khurasani

Senator (1k+ posts)
The scholar Ibn Nujaym said “it is not permitted for there to be more than one state leader (Imam) in a time period. There may be many judges, even in one state, but the leader is one.”(1) Al-Bahjouri said “It is an obligation to obey the leader, even if he is not fair or trustworthy or even if he committed sins or mistakes.”(2) Abu Hanifa’s school says that the head of the state, the Imam, cannot be expelled for being a corrupt person (fasiq).(3) Hudhaifa bin al-Yaman narrated a hadith in which he said, “The Prophet (saws) said, ‘there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my sunna, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of satan in the body of a human being.’ And I asked the Prophet (saws), ‘What I should do at that time if I reach it?’ He said, ‘listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey.’”(4)


Well, if this is true then why Imam Hussain disobeyed?

Why do we even call Imam Hussain (RA) an Imam?

This is all part of Saudi brainwashing narrative.

Making sure to make Islam a religion and not Deen.

That is the actual reason why Saudis and other middle eastern dictators opposed Khomeni and started fighting with Iran.

This is all to ensure that Islam and Politics are separate.

I denouce all of that.
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well, if this is true then why Imam Hussain disobeyed?

Why do we even call Imam Hussain (RA) an Imam?

This is all part of Saudi brainwashing narrative.

Making sure to make Islam a religion and not Deen.


That is the actual reason why Saudis and other middle eastern dictators opposed Khomeni and started fighting with Iran.

This is all to ensure that Islam and Politics are separate.

I denouce all of that.

Quite a valid point.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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Gul Sher Malik

MPA (400+ posts)
jo bhi karo, Clown Niazi's now last and ultimate resting place will be somewhere remote outside Maach Jail and there is nothing you can do to stop him
 

GuyFawkes

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
The scholar Ibn Nujaym said “it is not permitted for there to be more than one state leader (Imam) in a time period. There may be many judges, even in one state, but the leader is one.”(1) Al-Bahjouri said “It is an obligation to obey the leader, even if he is not fair or trustworthy or even if he committed sins or mistakes.”(2) Abu Hanifa’s school says that the head of the state, the Imam, cannot be expelled for being a corrupt person (fasiq).(3) Hudhaifa bin al-Yaman narrated a hadith in which he said, “The Prophet (saws) said, ‘there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my sunna, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of satan in the body of a human being.’ And I asked the Prophet (saws), ‘What I should do at that time if I reach it?’ He said, ‘listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey.’”(4)

what a stupid idea. It is islamic to wage jihad against such people.
 

3rd_Umpire

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sharam karo begerato ... u r abusing a religious rally by adding voice over...... koi haya karo cultio

اس بندے نے اپنی مادر، پہنڑ، اور پُتری پر چڑھنے کے لئے ھکو شرط رکھی ہے، کہ
پاویں کھوتا ہووے، یا کوئی بندہ بس ,,,,,,,,,پھوجی وردی میں ملبوس ہو ۔ ۔ ۔

 
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ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
یہ تو صرف مردہ باد کے نعروں کی بات ہورہی ہے لوگ کو اس کو اور اسکے ساتھی جرنیلوں کو ماں بہین بیٹی کی ننگی غلیظ گالیاں دے رہے ہیں زندگی
میں یہ جتنا یہ چند جرنیل زلیل ہوئے ہیں
اتنے تو مِلک توڑنے کے بعد
بھی یہ زانی شرابی کرپٹ اتنے زلیل نہیں ہوئے
اگر
کبھی یہ بغیر سیکیورٹی کے لوگوں کے ہتھے چڑھ گئے تو جو انکا حال ہوگا وہ خدا ہی بہتر جانتا ہے بز حر حال ماں بہین کی ننگی گالیاں تو لوگ ان کو کھلم کھلا دے رہے ہیں
وجہ صرف پانچ سات کرپٹ زانی شرابی غدار ٹولا ہے جس نے چھہتر سال کی فوج کے بارے میں عوامی محبت اور عزت کو نفرت میں بدل دیا
 

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