Easier to make Muslims weak / Weak Muslim woman destroys the family.

[Rambler]

Why do you and your friend Wake up Pak hold back on your knowledge and not answer a truth seeker's questions?

 

[Citizen X]

Why do you and your friend Wake up Pak hold back on your knowledge and not answer a truth seeker's questions?

Bro, give it up, this I'm so naïve acts gotten old already. Truth seekers are being answered. People just havin' a laugh and wasting time aren't

 

[Citizen X]

Turned into a Ninja more like it.

 

[Citizen X]

What sect does she belong to?

Well from her Ninja outfight, a disciple of most probably the Shotkan Burkainjtsu Dojo

 

[Rambler]

Turned into a Ninja more like it.

So how did you understand the verses regarding Hijab:

وَ لاَ يُبْدِيْنَ زِيْنَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَ لْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلىَ جُيُوْبِهِنَّ...

“...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur (head covering) over their bosoms...” (24:31).

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ, قُلْ لأَزْوَاجِكَ وَ بَنَاتِكَ وَ نِسآءِ الْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ: يُدْنِيْنَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلاَبِيْبِهِنَّ...

“O Prophet! Say to your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers that: they should let down upon themselves their jalabib.” (33:59).

 

[Rambler]

Bro, give it up, this I'm so naïve acts gotten old already. Truth seekers are being answered. People just havin' a laugh and wasting time aren't

So what are you here for then - Just say something and not answer any questions that arise from it? You must be prepared to explain your position if you are on a public forum and guide people like me to the true path.

 

[Citizen X]

So how did you understand the verses regarding Hijab:


“...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur (head covering) over their bosoms...” (24:31).

“O Prophet! Say to your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers that: they should let down upon themselves their jalabib.” (33:59).

So what are you here for then - Just say something and not answer any questions that arise from it? You must be prepared to explain your position if you are on a public forum and guide people like me to the true path.

Truth seekers are being answered. People just havin' a laugh and wasting time aren't

 

[Rambler]

Well from her Ninja outfight, a disciple of most probably the Shotkan Burkainjtsu Dojo

Let's say a woman reads Quran and interprets the verses as the form of hijab which you are joking about and wears it - What is the problem with that? Let us say she is overdoing it - Even then is it not better to err on the side of modesty than towards vulgarity ?

 

[samisam]

گشتی فراری کے بہت سے چمونوں کو اپنی ماں چ ۔۔۔ اور دوسروں کو خوامخواہ قوٹ کرکے بھونکنے اور ڈائرکٹ ہونے اور اپنی بے بے پیش کرنے کا بہت شوق ہے

 

[NasNY]

So what are you here for then - Just say something and not answer any questions that arise from it? You must be prepared to explain your position if you are on a public forum and guide people like me to the true path.

They have no logic or explanation, they just exist to create doubt among Muslims, their tactics are very old, tried tested and failed miserably.
Either they are fake Muslims or misguided by anti-Islam agents.

It's smart to engage them and expose them continuously in front of others. But Just like Abu Jahl didn't get he Prophets PBUH revelations of the Quran, these pebbles for brains will not acknowledge any facts.

 

[NasNY]

Well from her Ninja outfight, a disciple of most probably the Shotkan Burkainjtsu Dojo

You don't even know the differences between Shotokan and Ninjitsu.
and you come to argue religion.

I think you were passed on curve from the Islamophobic University.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Why do you and your friend Wake up Pak hold back on your knowledge and not answer a truth seeker's questions?

If you want to understand the truth, read the Quran without mixing it up with Ahadith.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Wake up Pak I respect your political opinions and at times feel you, Citizen X and I could be kindred souls. However I am not, and inshaAllah will never be a hadith-rejector.

My question is quite simple. Quran was not revealed on tablets from heaven like the 10-commandments given to Moses (as we are told). It was and is a recited/oral revelation. Although the divine command is there for protection of revelation (hadith is also considered unrecited revelation), but the agency is human.

Those humans are the Sahaba primarily. If they fell to their own desires/pressures and corrupted the hadith, how come were they able to resist their desires/pressures to tamper the Quran.

It is your prerogative to accept or reject the Ahadith. How can you defend that Ahadith are unrecited revelations? Maybe you need to read the little history of the Ahadith as to when and by whom these Ahadith were fabricated in the name of Prophet Mohammad.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Hadith compilers spent their whole life do that and trying to preserve and pass on the invaluable teachings of The Prophet (saw) which is infact an exegesis of the Quran.

Aadith compilers traveled thousands of miles to collect man-made fabricated Ahadith.

Even the bearded goat mullahs agree to it.

 

[Wake up Pak]

So how did you understand the verses regarding Hijab:


“...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur (head covering) over their bosoms...” (24:31).

“O Prophet! Say to your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers that: they should let down upon themselves their jalabib.” (33:59).

Where does it say to cover the face or hair?

 

[Rambler]

Aadith compilers traveled thousands of miles to collect man-made fabricated Ahadith.

Even the bearded goat mullahs agree to it.

Okay great. So we don't need Prophetic tradition, hadith or anything else except Quran and this is because the hadith and the tradition passed on may not be 100% correct. OK lets accept this premise in which case everyone reading the Quran should be able to understand most of it and since you claim to have been reading only The Quran for all your life you must be able to answer my questions ?

 

[Rambler]

Where does it say to cover the face or hair?

So if Quran is the basis for everything than there is no room for research and thinking over it as it would involve applying the knowledge gained from other sources which your reject. So every Muslim should just read the Quran and do whatever he/she makes out of it. You and Mr Citizen X are real geniuses.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Okay great. So we don't need Prophetic tradition, hadith or anything else except Quran and this is because the hadith and the tradition passed on may not be 100% correct. OK lets accept this premise in which case everyone reading the Quran should be able to understand most of it and since you claim to have been reading only The Quran for all your life you must be able to answer my questions ?

I have never claimed to be an expert in the Quran, and yes, I'm a student of the Quran, and the more I read it, the more I understand.

 

[Wake up Pak]

So if Quran is the basis for everything than there is no room for research and thinking over it as it would involve applying the knowledge gained from other sources which your reject. So every Muslim should just read the Quran and do whatever he/she makes out of it. You and Mr Citizen X are real geniuses.

It's advisable to read the Quran since it provides reliable guidance, unlike Ahadith, which is untrustworthy due to fabrication.
In the age of information ignorance is a choice.

 

[Rambler]

It's advisable to read the Quran since it provides reliable guidance, unlike Ahadith, which is untrustworthy due to fabrication.
In the age of information ignorance is a choice.

What if you do not understand something or are unsure about?