کیا عمران خان سنگجانی پر دھرنے کے لیئے راضی تھے؟ سامی ابراھم کے انکشافات

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Yeah PTI so called leadership sub ki sub compromised ya phattu hai, sub ko yeh fikar hai ke next PM main ban jaon, next CM mein banjao next fulan minister main ban jaon. Koi bi saala mukhlis nai hai, in BC'don mein se koi bi nahi chata ke Khan bahir aa jaye. Kyun ke agar Khan bahir aagay to in ke muft ki moujain khatam ho jaaien gi.

Start with the biggest harami of them all, this BC gandopur and work your way down.

Now the only way is for the people to come out on their own and on their own initiative. Aab sirf bangladesh model yahan chalay ga.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is something really wrong with you man - They will be brutal when they feel threatened. They would have pushed the protestants to a far off place and done the same thing out of sight. Here atleast all this yazeediat happened in plain sight of international media.

The main problem is coward idiots people from Punjab like you sitting in their warm homes and trying to act all intelligent. It was people like you who deserted Hussain (ra) criticizing his strategy. Instead of doing something you are sitting on your backside sipping tea and writing garbage here.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yeah PTI so called leadership sub ki sub compromised ya phattu hai, sub ko yeh fikar hai ke next PM main ban jaon, next CM mein banjao next fulan minister main ban jaon. Koi bi saala mukhlis nai hai, in BC'don mein se koi bi nahi chata ke Khan bahir aa jaye. Kyun ke agar Khan bahir aagay to in ke muft ki moujain khatam ho jaaien gi.

Start with the biggest harami of them all, this BC gandopur and work your way down.

Now the only way is for the people to come out on their own and on their own initiative. Aab sirf bangladesh model yahan chalay ga.

There is no Bangladesh model. In Bangladesh Army Chief refused to act against the protestors and it was actually him who forced hassina to resign.

P.S: Who are these 'people' who should come out and do these 'people' include you me and our friends and family?
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There is no Bangladesh model. In Bangladesh Army Chief refused to act against the protestors and it was actually him who forced hassina to resign.

P.S: Who are these 'people' who should come out and do these 'people' include you me and our friends and family?
Whether we have any common thoughts or not.
I 100% agree with your comment on the "Bangladesh model" thingy.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There is something really wrong with you man - They will be brutal when they feel threatened. They would have pushed the protestants to a far off place and done the same thing out of sight. Here atleast all this yazeediat happened in plain sight of international media.

The main problem is coward idiots people from Punjab like you sitting in their warm homes and trying to act all intelligent. It was people like you who deserted Hussain (ra) criticizing his strategy. Instead of doing something you are sitting on your backside sipping tea and writing garbage here.
Even bigger problem is that Keyboard shitters. If anyone can ever ask them to stop shitting on their keyboards and come and do it in the bushes of blue area Islamabad.
 

M_Shameer

Senator (1k+ posts)
There is something really wrong with you man - They will be brutal when they feel threatened. They would have pushed the protestants to a far off place and done the same thing out of sight. Here atleast all this yazeediat happened in plain sight of international media.

The main problem is coward idiots people from Punjab like you sitting in their warm homes and trying to act all intelligent. It was people like you who deserted Hussain (ra) criticizing his strategy. Instead of doing something you are sitting on your backside sipping tea and writing garbage here.

یوتھیے کھل کر رولے من ہلکا ہوجائے گا۔ فوجیوں نے مار مار کر یوتھیوں کے پچھواڑے سجادیئے ہیں، اب یوتھیے پچھواڑوں پر ہاتھ رکھ کر روتے پھررہے ہیں اور فوج کو گالیاں دیتے پھررہے ہیں۔ اگرکھڑا رہنے کی ہمت نہیں تھی تو کیا امب لینے گئے تھے ڈی چوک۔ وڈے انقلابی۔۔۔

😂 😂
 

M_Shameer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yeah PTI so called leadership sub ki sub compromised ya phattu hai, sub ko yeh fikar hai ke next PM main ban jaon, next CM mein banjao next fulan minister main ban jaon. Koi bi saala mukhlis nai hai, in BC'don mein se koi bi nahi chata ke Khan bahir aa jaye. Kyun ke agar Khan bahir aagay to in ke muft ki moujain khatam ho jaaien gi.

Start with the biggest harami of them all, this BC gandopur and work your way down.

Now the only way is for the people to come out on their own and on their own initiative. Aab sirf bangladesh model yahan chalay ga.

تونے بالکل صحیح بات کی یوتھیے۔ گنڈاپور کے احتساب سے بھی پہلے یہ پتا کرو کہ پنکی پورنی انقلاب بیچ میں چھوڑ کر بھاگی کس کے ساتھ ہے۔۔😁۔؟؟
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
There is no Bangladesh model. In Bangladesh Army Chief refused to act against the protestors and it was actually him who forced hassina to resign.

P.S: Who are these 'people' who should come out and do these 'people' include you me and our friends and family?
Look up July Massacre of 2024, around a 1000 people were killed by LEA and Paramilitary on Hasina govt orders and another 500 later on. So be it the army chief or someone else, innocent civilians were killed en masse. Yes we have it much worse since everyone on evil side is on the same page from top to bottom.

As for the P.S : Unfortunately now I have no family in Pakistan or even friends. And to be really honest I have no horse in this race, I was raised outside of Pakistan since I was a few months old and my very last connection to Pakistan were my parents, who passed away in the pandemic, Pakistan right now can totally go to hell and it would not make an iota of a difference to my being or anyone of my friends or family.

But as someone who feels connected to the land and maa boli of his forefathers and want to see it and its people thrive I do whatever I can from where I am. I do my small bit for the people, "jin ka jeena marna Pakistan mein hai". And that I should stand with the truth and support a true honest leader in the hopes maybe that country one day will become somewhere I might want to start putting my own roots there myself.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is something really wrong with you man - They will be brutal when they feel threatened. They would have pushed the protestants to a far off place and done the same thing out of sight. Here atleast all this yazeediat happened in plain sight of international media.

The main problem is coward idiots people from Punjab like you sitting in their warm homes and trying to act all intelligent. It was people like you who deserted Hussain (ra) criticizing his strategy. Instead of doing something you are sitting on your backside sipping tea and writing garbage here.
یار یہ اسلامی نظریاتی کاوٗنسل نہ بنو، ورنہ میں بھی کہہ سکتا ہوں کہ اگر سچّے ہوں تو ۳۱۳ بھی کافی ہوتے ہیں۔

لہٰذا جنھوں نے بھی اپنا حصّہ اس کام میں ڈالا، انھیں گالیاں نکالنے کی ضرورت نہیں۔ کسی نہ کسی نے تو دنیا کو بتلانا تھا کہ پاکستان میں کیا ہورہا ہے۔ اسلیئے یہ کی بورڈ کے سپاہی بھی ضروری ہیں۔

ورنہ اور جتھے لے جاتے اور مزید لاشیں لے آتے۔ اس سے زیادہ اس پاگل پن کا کوئی اور نتیجہ نہیں نکلنا تھا۔
درست ہے کہ ابراہیمؑ کو آگ نہیں چھو سکی۔ لیکن تم ذرا اپنا ہاتھ چولھے میں ڈالو اور پھر مجھے بتانا کہ جلا کہ نہیں؟

لہٰذا عمران خان کو حسینؑ سے ملانا چھوڑ دو۔ وہ ایک سیاسی لیڈر ہے۔
ابراہیمؑ یا حسینؑ کی مثال یہاں صادر نہیں آتی۔ ان کے جیسے کرشمات کے لیئے ان کے جیسا ایمان بھی ضروری ہے
اور خان کا ایمان اسکا عشرِ عشیر بھی نہیں۔

اب اگر آگے سے مجھے ایسی کوئی مثال دوبارہ دی تو میں اسے امام حسینؑ کی توہین سمجھوں گا اور پھر ویسے ہی پیش بھی آوٗنگا۔

زیادہ ،ذہبی پٹاخی نہ بجاوٗ، یہ سیاسی مسئلہ ہے، سیاسی انداز سے ہی بحث کرو
 
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Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
تونے بالکل صحیح بات کی یوتھیے۔ گنڈاپور کے احتساب سے بھی پہلے یہ پتا کرو کہ پنکی پورنی انقلاب بیچ میں چھوڑ کر بھاگی کس کے ساتھ ہے۔۔😁۔؟؟
کیوں، فراری کی سواری کی ساری ٹکٹیں بیچ آیا قطر میں؟
اب اوور ٹائم لگانے پہنچ گیا، یا امّاں نے باہر بٹھایا ہوا ہے، انتظار میں، تو فری ٹائم میں شغل کر رہا ہے؟
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is no Bangladesh model. In Bangladesh Army Chief refused to act against the protestors and it was actually him who forced hassina to resign.

P.S: Who are these 'people' who should come out and do these 'people' include you me and our friends and family?
There is a basic difference, that is why PTI's protest can never precipitate to that density -- PTI's demand is the release of IK, only. A very private matter of the party.
Bangladeshi cause was of each and every citizen.

Had PTI pulled a rally against inflation, electricity or even the rigging in the elections and not following the orders of the SC on reserved seats verdict, even in favor of Gaza and Palestine, it would've had different optics, different momentum and definitely much different results.

Unfortunately, Khan is all puzzled at the moment and his current team is made up of traitors. Otherwise, when Khan pulled a protest against NATO supply line, everyone felt aligned with the cause and successfully blocked it for four months. Got a decision from PHC against drone strikes and created an International level stir up.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There is no Bangladesh model. In Bangladesh Army Chief refused to act against the protestors and it was actually him who forced hassina to resign.

P.S: Who are these 'people' who should come out and do these 'people' include you me and our friends and family?
Or, for instance, take Iftikhar Chaudhry's movement against Musharraf. It was for a cause with which even Khan felt aligned with and joined hands with PML and PPP in it. It was about the greater cause of restoration of democracy in the country. Everyone knows what happened after that.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Whether we have any common thoughts or not.
I 100% agree with your comment on the "Bangladesh model" thingy.
You are comparing apples with oranges.

In Bangladesh, the bone of contention was of a legislation which affected the masses, since generations. That is why everyone came out, regardless of their political affiliations.

PTI's current stance only revolves around the release of IK. Not a national level cause, like inflation, election rigging, electricity etc.

Otherwise, you can also search for what happened with JI in Bangladesh and why Haseena Wajid was successful in clamping them down? It was just a political cause of one party alone.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یوتھیے کھل کر رولے من ہلکا ہوجائے گا۔ فوجیوں نے مار مار کر یوتھیوں کے پچھواڑے سجادیئے ہیں، اب یوتھیے پچھواڑوں پر ہاتھ رکھ کر روتے پھررہے ہیں اور فوج کو گالیاں دیتے پھررہے ہیں۔ اگرکھڑا رہنے کی ہمت نہیں تھی تو کیا امب لینے گئے تھے ڈی چوک۔ وڈے انقلابی۔۔۔

😂 😂

گرتے ہیں شہسوار ہی میدانِ جنگ میں
تیرے جیسے کیا گریں جو فوجی باتھ روم صاف کریں؟
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You are comparing apples with oranges.

In Bangladesh, the bone of contention was of a legislation which affected the masses, since generations. That is why everyone came out, regardless of their political affiliations.

PTI's current stance only revolves around the release of IK. Not a national level cause, like inflation, election rigging, electricity etc.

Otherwise, you can also search for what happened with JI in Bangladesh and why Haseena Wajid was successful in clamping them down? It was just a political cause of one party alone.
Okay so being what I am, 😁
you are allowing me to jump to the conclusion that national-level causes like inflation, election rigging, electricity etc do not exist or matter much for Pakistanis?
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
گرتے ہیں شہسوار ہی میدانِ جنگ میں
تیرے جیسے کیا گریں جو فوجی باتھ روم صاف کریں؟
کتھے یار پا جی -- بڑا چکنا ہونڈا اے فوجیاں دا باتھ روم
اجے نوا نوا عمران خان تلک کے گریا اے تے کولہے دی ہڈی تڑوا بیٹھا وے بڈھے وارے

☹️
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Okay so being what I am,😁
you are allowing me to jump to the conclusion that national-level causes like inflation, election rigging, electricity etc do not exist or matter much for Pakistanis?
Let me explain in another way...

I said that PTI's march would gain more traction if it were for a national cause, like inflation or even Gaza.

But rather than that, they preferred to come out for the cause of IK's release, alone. Now this cause is only important for PTI alone and not the whole nation.

I never said that these national causes do not exist. I said that PTI failed to capitalize on them and went for a party's private cause. That is why they feel more singled out.
Otherwise, they could have been enjoined by other parties as well.

Also, the Government would have taken a different approach, as the optics of it would have been different.
 

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