Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?
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Wake up Pak
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observer-x
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Let's discuss this point here.
if the whole idea is just a message, Allah could have used an angel to drop a book somewhere saying to humans go and read. But Allah did not do it, why?
Please consult ALLAhH swt he know,s why.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Are you Quranist?
who kiya hota hay? I am simple Muslim.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Np, this thread is not for you then.
Another firqa i suppose
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
We have Quranists in this forum who preach their misguided version of Islam to others. They reject hadith and sunnah.
This thread is for them.
being a Muslim is a firqa kiya?
Wake up Pak
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Even if Allah has dropped the book somewhere, the main point is the message of the Quran.
I am very intrested in this thread. just for the sake of knowledge
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
But Allah did not for the reason Quranists don't want to accept.
That is what Quranists way of seeing this as just a message without regards to the life and struggles of Prophet Muhammad SAW to establish deen on this earth. An example for rest of us until Day of Judgement to follow.
Waisay if Allah droped the book somewhere, dont you think someone had to go and read it and then come back to convey the messege to the rest of the man kind, if so that someone will be a messenger of Allah.
Dear observer x sb, its good that you know how to start a thread for discussing things but discussion has to be between people who look at things differently from each other.
In that case both parties need to put forth their own individual understanding of things in their own purpose based proper contexts respectively. Only and only then things can be looked at whether they fit-in in the provided contexts purposefully properly or not.
If I want to discuss something about a bike I want to make then it is for me to put forth my project and plan etc to explain things about it to show its purpose and plan as a project to prove that it will work. It is then for others to look at my provided plan for this project to see if my assumption is correct or am I making any mistakes in explaining things about it due to which my project will not work to serve its alleged purpose. Random pointless discussion only and only waste time and energy of people which could be better spent in learning things purposefully properly.
If you want to discuss your understanding of what is called islam then first you need to explain it as to what is islam as per your own understanding and then we can look at that critically and see if what you make of islam makes sense or it does not and why that is the case.
Hopefully what i am saying makes sense to you so that you could start this discussion the way it should be started so that it leads to a definite end result for definite. It is because people discuss random issues in their debates without any purpose based proper context therefore there is never a decisive end result. It is like I start discussing about a part of something about which you have never heard let alone know things about it in its all necessary detail. How can then you know whether I am talking sense or nonsense? Similar is case of discussing quran and islam without actually knowing them in their purpose based proper contexts. Similarly you will try and justify your beliefs and practices and I will do the same for my beliefs and practices but neither of us know what those beliefs and practices are which are only and only in our own individual minds till we express them to each other and then let each other examine them to see how they work and whether they serve the purpose allege and assume they serve or they do not.
Hopefully you will ponder over my suggestion and do as you see fit. Meanwhile regards and all the best.
Wake up Pak
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For your information, Allah only revealed the Quran, not fabricated Ahadith or Sunnah.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Allah chose Prophet SAW who you deny indirectly when you deny sunnah. Be careful.
Wake up Pak
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Idiot, why would I deny Messanger Mohammad? Yes, I deny the fabricated Shunnah & Ahadith of Persian Majoosis.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Agreed. Idea is not only reading for rewards either right either.
Humans need a practical application of the book which is the life of Prophet SAW. People till the end of world need to follow footsteps of Prophet SAW to establish deen in the individual lives and the world at large. Sunnah does exactly that.
Its very easy for Quranists to say there are no 5 times prayers mentioned in Quran so I would not pray 5 times. Or Qibla is not defined as specifically Kaaba so we can turn anywhere and its Qibla. Not following sunnah is the start of misguidance that can lead you to eventually leaving Islam.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
What world you live in? Islam is an objective religion.
What you believe about Islam personally does not matter. You and I are nobody. We follow Quran and sunnah all else is misguidance (even leaving one of the two).
