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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Tell me what gives you authority to understand translation? Your knowledge of English or Arabic?
It shows your mental level of understanding of the Quran. Neither you can translate a simple verse, nor you can give the details of Namaz from your beloved fabricated ahadith.
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
It shows your mental level of understanding of the Quran. Neither you can translate a simple verse, nor you can give the details of Namaz from your beloved fabricated ahadith.
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
Tell if you can even at least READ Quran in Arabic, forget about understanding.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Tell if you can even at least READ Quran in Arabic, forget about understanding.
It shows your mental level of understanding of the Quran. Neither you can translate a simple verse, nor you can give the details of Namaz from your beloved fabricated ahadith.
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Atheists claim Quran is also a fairy tale book. There is no solid evidence of anything from philosophical perspective. Eventually with this mindset people dump Quran too (May Allah protect you)
Strawman alert, this is a different topic for a different thread. Right now we are talking about the hadith here.

You seem to believe I have no knowledge on this topic. Bad judgement call sir.
I can tell it only as I see it and you have not demonstrated even in the slightest that you have even the most basic knowledge. In fact quite the opposite for example when you assumed Bukhari and his students were sahabi's. Thats a major red flag. You have not produced a single argument here with any real reference from the Quran or even hadith or any other book or thing to be honest. You have only acted like a typical apologist and continue to do so even in this reply. Oh but he was like that so its okay, oh they use to do it that way back then etc etc etc blah blah blah

Shaytan is out there to get us
And Alhamdulilah I was able to break through the veil of deception he had laid over my eyes by making me believe this corrupt sectarian religion is somehow supposed to be Islam.

I don't believe sahabas were infallible, they did make mistakes like every other human would. Umar RA loved beating people up, according to shia he beat Fatima RA too, that doesn't mean she had done anything wrong.
Apologist much? Ah those great mental and verbal hoops, keep on jumping. Not forgetting still avoiding the dubious Mr Cat Father question like the plague here.

Quran claims Prophet SAW was an ummi
That translation of the word ummi is incorrect here. It means gentile or someone who wasn't given a book before or knew about previous scripture. Basically somewhat like a non Ahl-e-kitab before he the Quran was revealed to him. Ummi does not mean illiterate, we are to believe an illiterate man made great trade expeditions to Syria and handled a business and then was revealed scripture from Allah which he had to rely on others to wrie it down on and not knowing what was being written was even correct.

Based on who and what?
Based on facts and the Quran, not your funny headgear and facial hair wearing mullahs.

I have a backing of all the scholars,
2:170 And when they are told , "Follow what GOD has sent down ." They say , "Rather , we follow what we found our fathers upon ." What if their fathers did not understand anything , nor were they guided ?

6:116 If you were to obey most of those on earth, they would lead you away from Allah’s Way. They follow nothing but assumptions and do nothing but lie

Again, you're making a judgement that you know more that I do
How about actually demonstrating it rather than just talking about it for a change.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Strawman alert, this is a different topic for a different thread. Right now we are talking about the hadith here.
Now I know what happened to a happy go lucky practicing sunni boy. The boy read philosophy and started questioning his belief.
I can tell it only as I see it and you have not demonstrated even in the slightest that you have even the most basic knowledge. In fact quite the opposite for example when you assumed Bukhari and his students were sahabi's. Thats a major red flag. You have not produced a single argument here with any real reference from the Quran or even hadith or any other book or thing to be honest. You have only acted like a typical apologist and continue to do so even in this reply. Oh but he was like that so its okay, oh they use to do it that way back then etc etc etc blah blah blah
I don't have to demonstrate anything. In Islam we don't boast about it anyway.
And Alhamdulilah I was able to break through the veil of deception he had laid over my eyes by making me believe this corrupt sectarian religion is somehow supposed to be Islam.
Yeah philosophers did it to you.
Apologist much? Ah those great mental and verbal hoops, keep on jumping. Not forgetting still avoiding the dubious Mr Cat Father question like the plague here.
Who's your ideal in philosophy?
That translation of the word ummi is incorrect here. It means gentile or someone who wasn't given a book before or knew about previous scripture. Basically somewhat like a non Ahl-e-kitab before he the Quran was revealed to him. Ummi does not mean illiterate, we are to believe an illiterate man made great trade expeditions to Syria and handled a business and then was revealed scripture from Allah which he had to rely on others to wrie it down on and not knowing what was being written was even correct.
So now Quranist will tell us what the correct translation of a Arabic word is. I assume you know Arabic right?
2:170 And when they are told , "Follow what GOD has sent down ." They say , "Rather , we follow what we found our fathers upon ." What if their fathers did not understand anything , nor were they guided ?
With that logic every generation should have a different religion. Absurd.
6:116 If you were to obey most of those on earth, they would lead you away from Allah’s Way. They follow nothing but assumptions and do nothing but lie
Says who? You?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Now I know what happened to a happy go lucky practicing sunni boy. The boy read philosophy and started questioning his belief.
I literally hate philosophy, if you want me to disappear from a room, start discussing philosophy

I don't have to demonstrate anything. In Islam we don't boast about it anyway.
LOL, you're the one boasting who brought up Hey look I know a lot of things OK, Its just a different thing I actually use to prove any points and just act like an apologists who really doesn't know anything

So now Quranist will tell us what the correct translation of a Arabic word is. I assume you know Arabic right?
Yes and Yes

With that logic every generation should have a different religion. Absurd.
Oh Ok, so Allah's word in the Quran is absurd now is it

Says who? You?
Wake up Pak was absolutely correct, you are not even vaguely familiar with the Quran now are you? those last two are direct quotes from the Quran. I have even giveing you chapter and verse number before them so you can look them up. You call one verse stupid logic and the other Says Who??? Allah in the Quran you ignorant doofus!
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
LOL, you're the one boasting who brought up Hey look I know a lot of things OK, Its just a different thing I actually use to prove any points and just act like an apologists who really doesn't know anything


Yes and Yes


Oh Ok, so Allah's word in the Quran is absurd now is it


Wake up Pak was absolutely correct, you are not even vaguely familiar with the Quran now are you? those last two are direct quotes from the Quran. I have even giveing you chapter and verse number before them so you can look them up. You call one verse stupid logic and the other Says Who??? Allah in the Quran you ignorant doofus!
I was about to mention his moronic response to your post. In reality, he is denying the Quran.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Wake up Pak was absolutely correct, you are not even vaguely familiar with the Quran now are you? those last two are direct quotes from the Quran. I have even giveing you chapter and verse number before them so you can look them up. You call one verse stupid logic and the other Says Who??? Allah in the Quran you ignorant doofus!
I guess only the Quranists who deny learning Arabic, learning from scholars or following the mainstream Islam really understand Quran.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I was about to mention his moronic response to your post. In reality, he is denying the Quran.
Honestly I am shocked. No mushrik I've dealt with before has ever been this Ignorant. Even the biggest Mushrik is usually somewhat familiar with Quran if not hadith.

Just look at this man!!!! He's says to the Quran, This is stupid logic! Astaghfirullah!
 

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