Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You're making judgements without knowing what I've studied and from where and how much.


Again, you're making assumptions. You don't know how many religions I've researched, practiced and followed before finally choosing Islam.

Dear observer x sb, what I am saying is self evident from your own posts. Tell me how will you prove is it bible that is wrong or christianity or both and why?

regards and all the best.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Why do Mushriks like you can't accept what the Quran says

Quran 18:27 You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.

Quran 77:50 So in which hadith after it will they believe ?

Quran 6:114 Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

Quran 45:6 These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?

Quran 5:50 Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God's for those who have attained certainty?

Quran 31:6 Among the people there are those who uphold basless hadith, and this diverts others (from the Way of Allah, and make a mockery of it. For such people there is a disgraceful punishment.

Quran 42:21 How can they believe in others who ordain for them things which God has not sanctioned in the practice of their faith? If it were not for God’s decree concerning the final Decision, judgement would already have been made between them. The evildoers will have a grievous punishment.


So again why is it you Mushriks refuse to believe and accept the Quran when it say it is fully detailed, you are not to follow anything beside it or make up any laws or practices which Allah has not ordained in the Quran.

I hope all the knowledge you keep bragging on about should come in handy right about now and none of the apologist nonsense that you have been laying out till now.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Why do Mushriks like you can't accept what the Quran says

Quran 18:27 You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.

Quran 77:50 So in which hadith after it will they believe ?

Quran 6:114 Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

Quran 45:6 These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?

Quran 5:50 Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God's for those who have attained certainty?

Quran 31:6 Among the people there are those who uphold basless hadith, and this diverts others (from the Way of Allah, and make a mockery of it. For such people there is a disgraceful punishment.

Quran 42:21 How can they believe in others who ordain for them things which God has not sanctioned in the practice of their faith? If it were not for God’s decree concerning the final Decision, judgement would already have been made between them. The evildoers will have a grievous punishment.


So again why is it you Mushriks refuse to believe and accept the Quran when it say it is fully detailed, you are not to follow anything beside it or make up any laws or practices which Allah has not ordained in the Quran.

I hope all the knowledge you keep bragging on about should come in handy right about now and none of the apologist nonsense that you have been laying out till now.
Who did this translation? And why do you trust this translation?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Who did this translation? And why do you trust this translation?
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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Why do Mushriks like you can't accept what the Quran says

Quran 18:27 You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.

Quran 77:50 So in which hadith after it will they believe ?

Quran 6:114 Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

Quran 45:6 These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?

Quran 5:50 Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God's for those who have attained certainty?

Quran 31:6 Among the people there are those who uphold basless hadith, and this diverts others (from the Way of Allah, and make a mockery of it. For such people there is a disgraceful punishment.

Quran 42:21 How can they believe in others who ordain for them things which God has not sanctioned in the practice of their faith? If it were not for God’s decree concerning the final Decision, judgement would already have been made between them. The evildoers will have a grievous punishment.


So again why is it you Mushriks refuse to believe and accept the Quran when it say it is fully detailed, you are not to follow anything beside it or make up any laws or practices which Allah has not ordained in the Quran.

I hope all the knowledge you keep bragging on about should come in handy right about now and none of the apologist nonsense that you have been laying out till now.
I've pretty much given up on this observer-x moron. He would never reply to any question, just kept on going in circles.
He couldn't even translate a single verse correctly, yet he claimed to be an expert in Arabic. Then I asked him about the details of Namaz from his beloved Ahadith, but as usual, he couldn't answer it either.
I've quoted several verses that the Quran is detailed and complete, but he never bothered to understand the straightforward verses.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
I've pretty much given up on this observer-x moron. He would never reply to any question, just kept on going in circles.
He couldn't even translate a single verse correctly, yet he claimed to be an expert in Arabic. Then I asked him about the details of Namaz from his beloved Ahadith, but as usual, he couldn't answer it either.
I've quoted several verses that the Quran is detailed and complete, but he never bothered to understand the straightforward verses.
You're lucky I have not given you a verse to translate. Coz you don't follow Arabic, don't follow the mufassirs. I wonder how you'd translate out of thin air.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You're lucky I have not given you a verse to translate. Coz you don't follow Arabic, don't follow the mufassirs. I wonder how you'd translate out of thin air.
Okay, since I do not know Arabic, how come you couldn't translate a single verse?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I've pretty much given up on this observer-x moron. He would never reply to any question, just kept on going in circles.
He couldn't even translate a single verse correctly, yet he claimed to be an expert in Arabic. Then I asked him about the details of Namaz from his beloved Ahadith, but as usual, he couldn't answer it either.
I've quoted several verses that the Quran is detailed and complete, but he never bothered to understand the straightforward verses.
You were absolutely correct man when you said he doesn't even know the Quran. Check out our latest interactions in this thread. I have directly quoted Quranic ayats and pretty well known ones too. Given chapter and verse numbers and he's replied, well this is stupid logic and who says all this!

Oh my god this guy is SOOOO IGNORANT! Its unbelievable

https://www.siasat.pk/threads/how-d...gions-of-the-world.919708/page-4#post-7227875
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
You were absolutely correct man when you said he doesn't even know the Quran. Check out our latest interactions in this thread. I have directly quoted Quranic ayats and pretty well known ones too. Given chapter and verse numbers and he's replied, well this is stupid logic and who says all this!

Oh my god this guy is SOOOO IGNORANT! Its unbelievable

https://www.siasat.pk/threads/how-d...gions-of-the-world.919708/page-4#post-7227875
Nice to see all Quranists ganging up HAHAHA.

Let's call him something so that he'd shut up. Bunch of losers.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Nice to see all Quranists ganging up HAHAHA.

Let's call him something so that he'd shut up. Bunch of losers.
So still regrets, not even some weak attempt to back peddle or any kind of excuse for calling the Quran stupid.

Man the only thing that has happened is you've been caught with your pants down and instead of trying to save the last shred of diginity you might have left, you're being a stubborn ass and double downing.

Sincere advise, all this is WAAAAAAAAAAAY above your paygrade, go read the Quran learn some basics, learn about your fairytale books, their history, who wrote them and when and then maybe come to blindly defend your fairytales in a year or two.

I knew you apologist arguments were childish now I suspecting you actually are a child, how old are you really? 13, 14?
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
So still regrets, not even some weak attempt to back peddle or any kind of excuse for calling the Quran stupid.
Isn't what people do when they lose at the end. Blasphemy. Best revenge.
Man the only thing that has happened is you've been caught with your pants down and instead of trying to save the last shred of diginity you might have left, you're being a stubborn ass and double downing.
Nice try. Right back at ya.
Sincere advise, all this is WAAAAAAAAAAAY above your paygrade, go read the Quran learn some basics, learn about your fairytale books, their history, who wrote them and when and then maybe come to blindly defend your fairytales in a year or two.
Well Quranists don't even have history. Its a new innovation. Not sure what you're proud of.
I knew you apologist arguments were childish now I suspecting you actually are a child, how old are you really? 13, 14?
I knew yours too you philosophy worshipper.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Isn't what people do when they lose at the end. Blasphemy. Best revenge.

Nice try. Right back at ya.

Well Quranists don't even have history. Its a new innovation. Not sure what you're proud of.

I knew yours too you philosophy worshipper.
There is no way I am engaging any further with a child who doesn't even the know the basics in the Quran and can't even recognize Quranic ayats when presented to him with reference no less and calls them stupid and who says this!
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
There is no way I am engaging any further with a child who doesn't even the know the basics in the Quran and can't even recognize Quranic ayats when presented to him with reference no less and calls them stupid and who says this!
A straw man fallacy!
 

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