Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
WTF do you mean how do you read? What you don't know how to read that I have to tell you how to read it? Are you this stupid naturally or do you have to practice?
Religion, Philosophy & Reason
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Citizen X
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Yeah to bhool hi jao na, qayamat tak koi be mazhabi patwari is sawal ka jawab nahi dey saktha
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
وَلَن تَجِدَ مِن دُونِهِۦ مُلْتَحَدًۭا doesn't mean this
Did you not translate word hadith for a reason? Hadith means statement which is not the same as the hadith you want to use.
Quran is the law no one's denying it. All jurisprudence is based on Quran and gets rejected if anything goes against Quran.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Don't get upset, you guys are redefining the meaning of everything not us. Be it reading or Messenger or Nabi or Quran or Hadith... everything.
How do you read?
-In Arabic or english
-With translation or without translation
-how do you choose the translation if you read it any other language
-how do you know a translator is good enough
-....
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Read it. It might open your dead brain, but I doubt it, as you're derainged in man-made Mushriks books.
As received.
Since the kingdom of God was established by the holy Messenger of Islam under the strict guidlines of those tenets of Quran which could never have approved of, or concord with, a dictatorial and despotic dynastic kingship, Muaviya is believed to have to unleash a fierce campaign of diverting the true teaching of Quran away from its original path by replacing it with a counterfeit doctrine based on fabricated stories called Islamic tradition, claiming to have directly come out of the mouth of the holy Messenger. The aim of that big diversion from the Quran’s righteous path was to produce a wishful new religious version of Islam that may support, justify, and compromise with his despotic monarchy where kings ruled by decree and kept people under the threat of the sword. The collection of those stories (tradition or rivayaat) is called Books of Ahadith.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Typical mushrik sunni partial quotes without any reference to justify their garbage books
And doesn't mean what?
This is the full verse Chapter 18 Verse 27
وَاتْلُ مَا أُوحِيَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ كِتَابِ رَبِّكَ ۖ لَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَاتِهِ وَلَنْ تَجِدَ مِنْ دُونِهِ مُلْتَحَدًا
How does this justify your garbage books? Because Allah is clearly talking about the Quran or unless you mean hadith was divine revelation ( have you actually read any hadith? And you are trying to say that filth is divine revelation!!!!) and you recite the hadith routinely. Then according to you your entire hadith corpus is hadith qudsi.
Citizen X
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You dumb sunni mushirk Yes I deliberately did not translate the word so it somehow might ring a bell in the empty belfry between your ears, hadith literally means Speech, talk, narration or report. And the Quran also refers to itself as hadith. And you sunni mushriks also refer to your garbade books as hadith because they are narrations. So the word hadith fits perfectly here. What other hadith other than the hadith ( i.e your garbage books) of Allah will you believe in
Citizen X
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LIES! 99% of all your sunni mushrik laws are based on these garbage books. Where in the Quran says its ok to marry a 6 yr old girl? Where is the law of this annual 2.5% tax? Where is the law that a grown non mahram man has to breast feed 5 times from a woman then he become a mahram? Where does the Quran says whoever changes his religion to kill him? On and On and On
Citizen X
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Say so you dumb zindeeq, of course any sane man is gonna lose his patience listening to your dumb bongis and nonsense run all day!
- Read it in both Arabic and English
- Both
- Read many many translations.
- Because the Quran explains itself. You can check if that word fits perfectly and makes sense in every instance it appears in the Quran. You can do this yourself. See if salah erroneously translated as your daily ritual prayer fits in every verse that it appears in.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Your potty mouth is not making any difference to me. It only shows your background.
But your other misguided hackel and jackel says you don't need to read Arabic.
So you trust the translator. What's your criteria for choosing the translator?
You don't learn Arabic how do you analyze the word genius?
Do it like you without understanding Arabic and just rely on a some unknown translator. Not only you lack knowledge your arrogance will cost you big time too.
Oh so only one person understands Salah in all of 1500 years of Islam and that is you right? Misguidance to the limits.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Wrong equivocation. None of those are articles of faith.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
Don't have to cover up your lies. You shaytan.
And for anyone having no knowledge of Arabic like you would think ding ding ding here comes my favorite word hadith. Let's score points thinking another person would not know you trickery.
Lie.
observer-x
Councller (250+ posts)
You wrong translation. You wrote it means you shall not find any other source beside it. It doesn't mean that. Which word translates to "source" in وَلَنْ تَجِدَ مِنْ دُونِهِ مُلْتَحَدًا?
You don't even know how hadith are used in complementing Quran. Just stop spreading lies.
Let's put you face to face with Allah. Show me from any one Hadith Qudsi what you think is filth according to your misguided standards.
Citizen X
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You don't need to, but its good if you do. 1000s of people have accepted Islam just by reading a translation of it in another language. Quran is not only for the Arabs or Arab speaking, so stop trying to be a gate keeper.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Dumb zindeeq mushrik, you can use translations. Duh!
And what are you on about Arabic! You don't know any Arabic yourself you moron!
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Once again what are you on about Arabic this and Arabic that you fool. You don't know any Arabic yourself and you've proven that many times here.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
More dumbshit fuckery, lies and bongis from the mushrik.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Sigh! Just when you thought this mushrik could not get any dumber, he surprises you and lowers the bar even more!You sufferring from Alzhimers or what, can't remember what you said few minutes ago? This is what you said you dumb schmuck "Quran is the law no one's denying it. All jurisprudence is based on Quran"
Citizen X
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I agree, مُلْتَحَدًا means refuge and not source and I was wrong. Thanks for the correction.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
There I fixed it for you
