Quranist/ Parwezi glossary of religious terms.

Wake up Pak

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Did you ask me if I follow it? You didn't, and you went away with unsaid things thinking you made a brilliant point?

God have mercy.
If you were to believe in the Quran, you would have followed its message. You should not follow Mushrik illiterate Mullahs who are keeping you as a slave of thier counterfeit Islam.
Remember, these corrupt ignorant mullahs will not save your ass in the day of judgement.
 
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Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Did you ask me if I follow it? You didn't, and you went away with unsaid things thinking you made a brilliant point?

God have mercy.
If you follow the majority of the people on earth, they will divert you from the path of God. They only follow conjecture, and they only guess. (6:116)
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I know you like hit and run type of comments.
You are calling my detailed with reference comments, hit and run. Really bro?

I know you don't like going point by point
Once again each and every point has been addressed in detail with references. Please point out where this was not done, unless you think not getting the answers you want rather than the answers I've provided

Again, you think answering is just a formality
No what yore doing is is goal oriented framing, not accepting lenghty detailed answers and totally dismissing them just because they don't help steer the discussion in the direction you want it to go. So you keep insisting over and over on a reply that favours you so you can reach your predetermined point.

Recent one of many examples: You quoted اطاعت when asked about عبادت

And I told you what you call اطاعت ( obideience to God, following his commands and laws, so on and so forth ) is part of ibadat as I had explained in an earlier post that what you consider اطاعت is part of Ibadat. You just don't happen to like the answer and keep forcing on, no thats not what it means

Well maybe I'm just dumb because this is the only answer I know so how about you tell me what اطاعت really means.

That's why you're running, You already escaped
No I'm still here brother. Been here for 12 years now, seen many young bloods like you come and go. And if I had a dollar bill for everyone of you. I would have a mountain of money right up to my chin. 😉
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
If you were to believe in the Quran, you should have followed its message. You should not follow Mushrik illiterate Mullahs who are keeping you as a slave of thier counterfeit Islam.
Remember, these corrupt ignorant mullahs will not save your ass in the day of judgement.
ok ok same old Parwezi script... mulllah ... mushrik..
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
You are calling my detailed with reference comments, hit and run. Really bro?
Yes and you know it too.
Once again each and every point has been addressed in detail with references.
Putting out random Quranic verse is detailed references. Got it.
No what yore doing is is goal oriented framing, not accepting lenghty detailed answers and totally dismissing them just because they don't help steer the discussion in the direction you want it to go. So you keep insisting over and over on a reply that favours you so you can reach your predetermined point.
Ok got it, you mean you know where the discussion will end up (likely in a deep dug up grave) and that is why to refrain from indulging it further. Fair enough, just stick to your position. Its called running from the playing field.
And I told you what you call اطاعت ( obideience to God, following his commands and laws, so on and so forth ) is part of ibadat as I had explained in an earlier post that what you consider اطاعت is part of Ibadat.
Ok so its a subset of عبادات, granted. What is the عبادات in totality now? Question you've been running from for a reason 😜
No I'm still here brother. Been here for 12 years now, seen many young bloods like you come and go. And if I had a dollar bill for everyone of you. I would have a mountain of money right up to my chin. 😉
Meaning: I'm an arrogant person.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Yes and you know it too.

Putting out random Quranic verse is detailed references. Got it.

Ok got it, you mean you know where the discussion will end up (likely in a deep dug up grave) and that is why to refrain from indulging it further. Fair enough, just stick to your position. Its called running from the playing field.

Ok so its a subset of عبادات, granted. What is the عبادات in totality now? Question you've been running from for a reason 😜

Meaning: I'm an arrogant person.
I already told you I am dumb and that is the only definition I know, so why do you educate me on what it really means
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Yes and you know it too.

Putting out random Quranic verse is detailed references. Got it.

Ok got it, you mean you know where the discussion will end up (likely in a deep dug up grave) and that is why to refrain from indulging it further. Fair enough, just stick to your position. Its called running from the playing field.

Ok so its a subset of عبادات, granted. What is the عبادات in totality now? Question you've been running from for a reason 😜

Meaning: I'm an arrogant person.

I already told you I am dumb and that is the only definition I know, so why do you educate me on what it really means
Oh look, who ran away now, as predicted.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
I already told you I am dumb and that is the only definition I know, so why do you educate me on what it really means
You know what's at stake? Not knowing how to fulfill the rights of Allah if there's no correct definition of Ibadah in the first place. Huge claims of following Quran while the One who sent Quran his rights are been ignored only for the hate of Sunnah. Dangerous spot to be in.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You know what's at stake? Not knowing how to fulfill the rights of Allah if there's no correct definition of Ibadah in the first place. Huge claims of following Quran while the One who sent Quran his rights are been ignored only for the hate of Sunnah. Dangerous spot to be in.
Oh look who finally mustered up the courage to comeback. How surprising.

Well then stop running away and dodgeing the question, I ask you for the Nth time why don't you educate me on it then.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Oh look who finally mustered up the courage to comeback. How surprising.

Well then stop running away and dodgeing the question, I ask you for the Nth time why don't you educate me on it then.
I don't reply on weekends if you try to follow my chats. I have dawah work to do at that time. This chat is only for weekdays 😃
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Oh look who finally mustered up the courage to comeback. How surprising.

Well then stop running away and dodgeing the question, I ask you for the Nth time why don't you educate me on it then.
I'm bringing you back to our actual discussion points which you're trying to now confuse.

You already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I'm bringing you back to our actual discussion points which you're trying to now confuse.

You already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
Stop moving goal posts, dodgeing and running away! You made such a huge deal about me now knowing what Ibadat means, now I am asking you AGAIN for the millionth time! Tell me what your explaination of Ibadat is.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Stop moving goal posts, dodgeing and running away! You made such a huge deal about me now knowing what Ibadat means, now I am asking you AGAIN for the millionth time! Tell me what your explaination of Ibadat is.
Stop doing hit and run type of discussions. You've left many points unaswered in the middle. Just follow my chain of discussion, this huqooq Allah discussion includes ibadah, without ibadah there's no huqooq Allah.

Again, you already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Stop doing hit and run type of discussions. You've left many points unaswered in the middle. Just follow my chain of discussion, this huqooq Allah discussion includes ibadah, without ibadah there's no huqooq Allah.

Again, you already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
Nope this discussion is not going anywhwere If you can't answer, stop making up excuses. You made such a HUGH STINK about ibadat and got stuck on it even when I had many times answered it and now when I am asking you over and over again that ok fine quite possibly I am wrong, then explain to me what Ibadat really means and is like a zillion times now, but you keep running away when its your time you answer what should be a very simple question to a great daie like you.

Well just like you, now I am going to get stuck on it and refuse to move forward with this discussion until you answer your own question.

So for the zillionith time what is ibadat then?

P.S : Also stop making false allegations, I have answered every question and replied to every point on some occasion more than one, even the question you ask again here has already been answered previously. Just scrolll back.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Nope this discussion is not going anywhwere If you can't answer, stop making up excuses. You made such a HUGH STINK about ibadat and got stuck on it even when I had many times answered it and now when I am asking you over and over again that ok fine quite possibly I am wrong, then explain to me what Ibadat really means and is like a zillion times now, but you keep running away when its your time you answer what should be a very simple question to a great daie like you.
You can't make up your rules. Have patience, all the points will be covered. I promise. I won't let you cherry pick.

Again, you already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You can't make up your rules. Have patience, all the points will be covered. I promise. I won't let you cherry pick.

Again, you already said there is no Huqooq Allah mentioned in Quran just like Tawheed. Yet you believe in Tawheed but not Huqooq Allah? Why?
Cherry pick? Whose cherry picking. Your needle has been stuck on ibadat since post #95 and won't go past it and now its post #135 Everytime I asnwer you, you say no this not ibadat this is fulan, no this is dhimkan. So now when I've finally given up trying to explain to you what I believe is ibadat which you don't accept as an answer, so now I am asking you, YOU tell me what is ibadat since obviously I don't know.

And all of a sudden you want to move on to something else? Classical example of running away. Not happening my friend. So once again, what is ibadat.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Cherry pick? Whose cherry picking. Your needle has been stuck on ibadat since post #95 and won't go past it and now its post #135 Everytime I asnwer you, you say no this not ibadat this is fulan, no this is dhimkan. So now when I've finally given up trying to explain to you what I believe is ibadat which you don't accept as an answer, so now I am asking you, YOU tell me what is ibadat since obviously I don't know.

And all of a sudden you want to move on to something else? Classical example of running away. Not happening my friend. So once again, what is ibadat.
You ran away from Huqooq Allah first saying its not in Quran. Then when tried to run away from Ibadah calling it اطاعت. And when caught you're throwing my question back at me as if that'd help you.

That being said, I'm bringing you back to why you think Huqooq Allah don't exist for you? Our creator Allah created you and I and everything and you think he has no rights on us?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You ran away from Huqooq Allah first saying its not in Quran. Then when tried to run away from Ibadah calling it اطاعت. And when caught you're throwing my question back at me as if that'd help you.

That being said, I'm bringing you back to why you think Huqooq Allah don't exist for you? Our creator Allah created you and I and everything and you think he has no rights on us?
Stop moving the goal posts. I know when I start with this, you are not going to accept what I have to say make all sorts of snide and arrogant remarks and then when I will say ok fine since I don't know you tell me, then you will change goal posts once again and go on to something else. Been there done that. You will keep jumping from topic to topic.

SO stop running away. NOW I am bringing you back to what you've been banging on since post #95 but all of a sudden want to run away from that topic.

So once again, what is ibadat. Until you wont answer this, this discussion can't move forward.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Stop moving the goal posts. I know when I start with this, you are not going to accept what I have to say make all sorts of snide and arrogant remarks and then when I will say ok fine since I don't know you tell me, then you will change goal posts once again and go on to something else. Been there done that. You will keep jumping from topic to topic.

SO stop running away. NOW I am bringing you back to what you've been banging on since post #95 but all of a sudden want to run away from that topic.

So once again, what is ibadat. Until you wont answer this, this discussion can't move forward.
I see you don't like being in a vulnerable position. Huge claims for bringing a new religion yet there's no concept of ibadah in it.

Explain your no ritual ibadah to all so that we know where you stand.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I see you don't like being in a vulnerable position. Huge claims for bringing a new religion yet there's no concept of ibadah in it.

Explain your no ritual ibadah to all so that we know where you stand.
So back to the snide and arrogant remarks, baseless allegations and jumping on to a tottally different topic ( which I just you were going in my previous post ) after being stuck on ibadat for 40+ posts when even the slightest challenge is presented.

Stop trying to run away.

So for the gazillionith time what is ibadat.
 

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