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  1. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Oh you mean that faggot who would get drunk on desi tarrah and then spam the forum with cringy songs! Thanks for the heads up, directly into the ignore bin he goes
  2. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    As the quote often attributed to Mark Twain goes "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." 😉
  3. Citizen X

    Muḥammad ibn Yūsuf al-Firabrī : The Unknown Man On Whose Shoulders Traditional Islam Stands On.

    Yes thank you for your very detailed, logical and intellectual argument. But FYI Qadiyanis are firm believers of the hadith. And also Qaidianis outwardly practices and rituals are 100% exactly the same as traditional Muslims. In fact so much so I had a friend from Maurtius and for about 2 to 3...
  4. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    In a short answer NO! As mentioned earlier stop trying to conflate the messenger and the prophet into one. As a prophet, Muhammad had a different job. And as a Messenger he had a different job. Prophets are for their people of their time. The Prophet no longer has any authority over us anymore...
  5. Citizen X

    Muḥammad ibn Yūsuf al-Firabrī : The Unknown Man On Whose Shoulders Traditional Islam Stands On.

    Yup pretty much comfirms what I wrote, Sahih Bukhari stands on this one unvouched for self proclaimed student of Al Firabi's shoulders. You take out Mr Firabri from this equation, the entire Sahih Bukhari falls like a house of cards The three lesser knows mentioned are virtually...
  6. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    And that is why Allah says to believe in all the messengers and that no one messenger is superior to another. All are of equal stature. And putting Verse 33:21 into context read the preceding and verses following it is talking about the messengers example in war, that rather than being one of...
  7. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Forget early Muslims. Has he ever taken the shahada himself? Because accroding to this just being born Muslim is not enough. One has to say it with intention which means just reciting it while learning it as a child etc etc or repeating it while reading something doesn't count. One has to...
  8. Citizen X

    Muḥammad ibn Yūsuf al-Firabrī : The Unknown Man On Whose Shoulders Traditional Islam Stands On.

    Even the most criticial of hadith followers will agree that according to traditional Sunni Islam Sahih Al Bukhari is the most authentic book after the Quran. So naturally we can trace back Sahih Bukhari back to the person accredited for collecting and compling this authrotative and definite...
  9. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Don't bother tagging oBozo-X as predicted these mushriks always run away.
  10. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Correction, not messenger, but messengers!
  11. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Yes, obey the Messenger, never does the Quran say Atti ur Rasool NEVER! And Allah is the most wise and most knowing and he chooses his words wisely and he is not short on words. SO if he would have wanted to say follow the prophet he would have done so, but instead he always say obey the...
  12. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    And that in itself is enough to negate your sahada, like that I can nit pick verses from the Quran join them together to mean almost anything I want them to mean. Quran doesn't work this way.
  13. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    Where did this shahda come from? Its no where in the Quran? The ayah you qoutes, yes says this is what you have to believe in to be a Muslim but then added your own ( or rather from who ever you copy and pasted this from ) addition that one has to verbally affirm this. And since the Quran says...
  14. Citizen X

    People who only follow Quran and reject hadiths & sunnah - Apostates?

    😂 😂 😂 😂 I love this mushrik logic of if you don't believe these manmade book of ours then you disbelieve in the Quran. How do you even come to this conclusion is beyond me! Specially when the Quran itselfs say not to believe in any hadith other than the Quran. Now I know why people like oBozo-x...
  15. Citizen X

    How The Quran Itself Defines Ibadah.

    If they follow the Quran then they will have to abandon their dieties and their worship of their dieties. The Quran talks about them If you asked the people of Mecca, Quraish and kuffar of the time who is the creator of the world and who created you, they would all say Allah. It's not like...
  16. Citizen X

    Objection: Quran is not Understandable without Hadith

    قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ And لَعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ
  17. Citizen X

    How The Quran Itself Defines Ibadah.

    Don't you know he's Mr Know it all, he's probably his aunty's uncle's neighbour's class fellow's security guard's cousin's father in law's banker's building mate's gym partner's friend's phuppoo's son's classmate. That's why he know's he a L face youtuber. There is no one or nothing that...
  18. Citizen X

    How The Quran Itself Defines Ibadah.

    هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
  19. Citizen X

    Objection: Quran is not Understandable without Hadith

    Going blind too I see, its right up there. You on the other hand forgot to press play on your broken record! Perwezi Perwezi kerdi main apay Perwezi ho gai by Dawah Bro and the Mushriks Band! lol
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