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    Deen of islam vs mazhab and secularism

    186] So for you people who claim to have committed yourselves wholeheartedly and purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind in our kingdom according to our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind there are indeed opportunities...
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    Deen of islam vs mazhab and secularism

    165] So how was it a surprise for you people that when a disaster befell you by hands of your opposing party that you complained about it when you people have already inflicted them with a defeat twice as bad earlier due to which you people should have been better prepared for their retaliation...
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    Deen of islam vs mazhab and secularism

    142] Or is it that you people thought that you can become and remain a purpose based proper human community in a place in kingdom of Allah according to his provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind for having blissful, dignified and secure state of existence without any needed hard...
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    Did early muslims reject hadith?

    azeezam milkyway sb, mere nazdeek her woh shakhs jo quran ko aik mazhabi kitaab samajhta hai ya islam ko aik mazhab samajhta hai ya to woh unjaan aur bekhabar hai ya phir zaati mufaad parast hai. anjaan aur mufaad parast her woh shakhs hai jo peda to anjaan hi huwa hai magar us ne munaasib...
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    Did early muslims reject hadith?

    Dear milkyway sb, mirza sb se kahen yahaan is forum per aa kar zara baat karen quran aur islam per. un ka kaam sirf superstition yani tohamparasti per aik had tak baat kerne tak hi mehdood hai. yahee haal qaiser ahmed raja sb aur un ke deegar hamnawaon ka hai jaise dr mufti nadeem wajdi sb...
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    FITNA INKAR-E-QURAN

    Dear milkyway sb, please state the valid criterion for reaching the truth about the quran and hadith? There is no point in quoting people and their works if they themselves had no valid indisputable criterion to judge their understandings of things by. regards and all the best.
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, you have very wrong ideas about actual islam. As I explained for you already islam is not a religion and islam is anti religion and secularism. To find out why that is the case, you will have to read through my provided explanations about things. You are merely responding to...
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    Beware: Hadith rejectors very active in this forum. Its a deviant sect!!

    Dear observer x sb, you need to become and remain aware about the fact that there are some basic necessities for mankind which need to be met before we talk about the quran and hadis and islam. Can you point them out as many as you can? We human beings need to know these so that we could look at...
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    Beware: Hadith rejectors very active in this forum. Its a deviant sect!!

    Dear citizen x sb, all this was work of haraami rulers, money dealers and mullahs to discredit actual quran and islam and to confuse ignorant muslims due to whose slacking in keeping up with actual quran and islam they took advantage to do so. They this way replaced actual islam with religion...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, you are trying to say, Allah sent human prophets and messengers because the message sent was for human beings not angels. In that case why Allah sent men prophets and messengers instead of both men and women? It is because men cannot be guides for women the way you people...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, what I am saying is self evident from your own posts. Tell me how will you prove is it bible that is wrong or christianity or both and why? regards and all the best.
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, kindly start getting purpose based proper education, training and skills so that you could see for yourself why your line of reasoning does not make sense due to its logical inconsistencies. It is because you do not accept real world realities which I stated in my posts on...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear wake up sb, I have explained this already so kindly read my post again. Even today for day to day things we still get reports as news from various sources to stay in touch with realities of our own time be they full of falsehood and useless information because not all reports are false and...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, the quran does not talk about religion islam in sense of pooja paat rather it talks about a way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind as islam. Ibaadah does not mean pooja paat, salaah does not mean namaaz, sowm does not mean roza, zakaah does not mean 2.5%...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear wake up pak sb, it is true that Allah only revealed the quran for purpose based proper guidance of mankind but the quran cannot be acted upon without making purpose based proper sense of its text in its own proper context. This is where others can help us and they do help us otherwise we...
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    Quranists: Why only humans were sent with a message and not angels?

    Dear observer x sb, its good that you know how to start a thread for discussing things but discussion has to be between people who look at things differently from each other. In that case both parties need to put forth their own individual understanding of things in their own purpose based...
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    SAUDI ARABIA GAVE BIG SHOCK TO MUSLIMS BEFORE 2025 RAMADAN

    Dear observer x sb, as I see things you seem to be responding for sake of response instead of stating your own point of view about things so that I could see what you are offering as an alternative and whether it is worth pursuing. So I will only respond to your explanations and evidences if you...
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    مفتی طارق مسعود ایک فرقے کا چھوٹا سا مفتی ہے،محمدعلی مرزا

    shakhsiyat parasti main mubtila log qowm nahin hote aur na hi qowm ban sakte hen jab tak shakhsiyat parasti se kinaara kash na ho jaayen taa ke aapas main bhai bhai ban ker aik ummat ban saken. secular aur mazhabi log takabur ke baghair reh hi nahin sakte. woh ya to khud ko badaa bataate hen ya...
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    SAUDI ARABIA GAVE BIG SHOCK TO MUSLIMS BEFORE 2025 RAMADAN

    Dear observer x sb, you have not explained how the quran proves to be word of God. Proof requires logical consistency but before that one has to know what proof is and be able to define it. Human mind cannot believe anything at all without making some sort of sense of it. Just saying I believe...
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