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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    dear m shameer sb, can you prove to me that you do have maghz? regards and all the best.
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    Dear rumi admirer sb, I did not define what proof is. I simply told you what oxford dictionary states as to what proof is and I said I do not agree with that. Kindly read my post again if you are in doubt. I do not agree with definition of proof by you or by oxford dictionary. You will see...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    dear rumi admirer sb, I have responded to your definition of proof. It is not correct in my view. I have already defined proof in my posts which works for each and everything which need proof and proving. Here is dictionary definition of proof, do you think it is correct? In my view it is not...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    @M_Shameer @Rumi-Admirer Dear friends, random discussions do not lead anywhere other than more and more confusion. The best way to go about things is step by step. This is why I asked about definitions about proof, proving, reasoning and islam as to what they are. Unless we get to know these...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    dear rumi admirer sb, it seems to me that you have not read my replies. I think so because you have not responded the way I expected of you and the way you should have. You want to argue about Allah without defining proof and proving as well as reasoning and without defining islam. Please do...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    Existence of God If there was nothing at all to begin with then there ought to be nothing at all for ever. Therefore the creation we see all around us could not exist, because nothing cannot produce anything at all. If there was something it had to be someone intelligent with all needed...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    One more thing for both of you. Can you both explain what is meaning of reasoning?
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    dear rumi admirer sb, please read my reply to m shameer. The same is true about you as well. regards and all the best.
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    dear m shameer sb, why are you making silly claims about islam which you cannot prove. You cannot even define proof never mind proving a claim. If you think I am wrong then kindly define proof and how a proof proves a claim. You cannot define islam, if you can please do that. This is to show...
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    Rejecting Reason in the name of Islam

    illato malool ka usool aik musallam aur atal usool hai jo haqaaiqe duniya per mabni hai yani is ki bunyaad haqaaiqe duniya per hai. ye to mumkin hai keh log cheezun ko ghalat tareeqe se aapas main jod den magar ye mumkin hi nahin hai keh jin cheezum ko kisi maqsad ke liye aapas main ghalat...
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    نفاذ اسلام بذریعہ دہشت گردی!!! ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد

    asal islam insaanu ko karaamand banaata hai apni taleemo tarbiyat aur fanoon se na keh naakaara aur bekaar. jo islam kamzor logoon ko dabaa de us main salaamti ka sawaal hi peda nahin hota. bilkul waise hi jaise secularism aur religion kamzor logoon ko dabaate hen. asal islam issi duniya ko...
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    نفاذ اسلام بذریعہ دہشت گردی!!! ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد

    mullaan log jis ko islam kehte hen woh islam nahin hai. ye to shraab ki botal per shehd ka label lagaane waali baat hai. befaaida aur nuqsaandeh aqeede aur amaal ko khudaa ka islam nahin keh sakte. aise islam se to khud khudaa bhi insaanu se bhi chhota nazar aata hai. khudaa ka islam sirf aur...
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    نکاح کیلئے مولوی کی موجودگی ضروری ہے؟یاصرف مرد، عورت اور دو گواہ کافی ہیں؟

    islam deen hai mazhab nahin hai. deen aik zindagi guzaarne ka raasta hota hai, aik dastooro qanoon hota hai aur aik nizaame hakoomat hota hai. mazhab khudaa ki pooja paat ka naam hai. ye bebunyaad afkaaro nazriyaat per mabni aqeedun aur bai-nateeja aur befaaida amaal ka majmooa hota hai...
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    LAMENT OF THE QURAN

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    Deen of islam vs mazhab and secularism

    This is why before people read the Quran they need to prepare themselves purposefully properly for its purpose based proper understanding and acting upon that understanding. One should be able to see from this explanation how silly the Arabs look when they fail to understand and act upon the...
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    Deen of islam vs mazhab and secularism

    Deen of Islam is anti religion and anti secularism but why? It is because religion and secularism both are man-made and they have been brought about by dominant and leading people to cause harm and destruction to rest of people in human populations for securing their own individual petty...
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