Enlightened Moderation / Progressive Thought and Islam: A Seminar Discussion & Debate

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Some years back a very thought provoking and enlightening debate took place in Lahore under the auspices of “Tanzeem E Islami” presided by the late Dr Israr Ahmad along with six other main participant speakers on the topic of “The Current Process of Enlightened Moderation / Progressive Thought and Islam”. I will post the lectures of only three participants of this seminar here on this thread starting from Dr Javed Iqbal, Dr Shahid Masood and Dr Israr Ahmad, which is the main gamut of this important issue;

Dr Javed Iqbal's Lecture





Dr Shahid Masood's Lecture




Dr Israr Ahmad's Lecture







 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What an eye opener, Maulana sahib is talking about sharam o haya, whiich is not endorsed by javed iqbal or by Dr, mushahid but it seems that Maulana sahib only want to talk about sharam o Haya as if it is accepted by Javed Iqbal or Dr. Mushahid, he also talked about banking system which is fully endorsed by Arabs, if it is changed by them it will make a big differences, it will also make a big change if Maulana sahib would talk about and continue to talk about our corrupt politicians till there is a changes, the change which will bring honest, decent and hard working leaders who do not drive around with 40 cars to secure themselves.

Let us do first thing first, fix problems facing us now, those are.

1. fix the problems of killing of innocent by misguided folks who call themselves as the only Muslims.

2. Look at the Muslims Umma and see that Somalia is suffering than the whole Umma is suffering and do something by talking to the leaders of Muslims countries about fixing it. If i had the the backing Maulana sahib has than i would go to Somalia and help in stopping the war and stay till it is stopped.

3. Banking system can only be changed if maulana sahib talks to the people who can influence in fixing it, I mean by that is Arabs who have billions invested in these systems, they can at least ask for the system acceptable to Muslims, it is not a good thing to talk about these things to common man as common man cannot do anything about it accept it will promote Violence as it will anger common man against big western banks, when it is not their fault as we have not asked them to do the banking for Muslims.I am sure they would be glad to do it because they in business in making money and will do it when they see the [profits increase

4. Motivate all people coming to his sermons to take them to an area in trouble needing cleaning and should lead in cleaning the whole area, one area at a time, it will motivate people if he leads the cleaning by his own hands showing that cleaning is next to Godliness. sitting in majlis and preaching is not the whole Islam, it important that these Maulana follow not only the preaching but follow the acts of our beloved prophet P.B.U.H.

5. Promote those school that will teach science at the same level as Islam so that all students will than be scientists and than Islamic Nations will not have to buy stuff made by other but by our own people with our own specifications.

6. Teach our people to respect other Religion so that they do not disrespect ours Religion and that is what Islam's teaching are.

Make Movies that depicts Islamic values, one could be about Yarmouk war. Watch the video and see for your self, if it is for or against Islamic values, it is a good way to teach our young about the bravery, the chivalry and the dedications of our forefather.

WATCH THE VIDEO AND SEE FOR YOURSWELF.

 
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