Fear Hellfire and do not let your garment hanging down below the Ankle.

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Fear Hellfire and do not let your garment hanging down below the Ankle.



Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whatever of the izaar (lower garment) is below the ankles is in the Fire." (al-Bukhaari, no. 5787)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "There are three whom Allaah will not look at or praise on the Day of Judgement and theirs will be a painful punishment: the one who wears his garment below his ankles, the one who reminds others of his favours, and the one who sells his product by means of making false oaths" (reported by Muslim, no. 106)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Isbaal (wearing ones garment below the ankles) may apply to the izaar (lower garment), the shirt or the turban. Whoever allows any part of these to trail on the ground out of arrogance, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement." (reported by Abu Dawud, no. 4085, and al-Nisaai, no. 5334, with a saheeh isnaad).

Ibn Abbaas reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah will not look at the one who wears his lower garment below his ankles." (Reported by al-Nisaai in al-Mujtabaa, Kitaab al-Zeenah, Baab Isbaal al-Izaar).

Hudhayfah said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) took hold of the muscle of my calf (or his calf) and said, This is where the izaar should stop; if you insist, it may be lower, but it should not reach the ankles." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who said this is a saheeh hasan hadeeth; see Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 1783)

All of the ahaadeeth quoted above speak against isbaal, whether or not the intention is to show off; but if a person does this deliberately out of arrogance, there is no doubt that his sin is greater. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah will not look at the one who trails his izaar on the ground out of pride." (al-Bukhaari, no. 5788)

Jaabir ibn Sulaym said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: Beware of wearing ones lower garment below the ankles, because this is a kind of showing-off, and Allaah does not love showing-off." (Regarded as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2722).

No one is able to be completely free of pride and arrogance, even if he claims that this is so. Such a claim is unacceptable, because by saying it, he is praising himself. Only in the case of those whom the wahy (revelation) testified that they were free of pride do we believe that this is the case. For example, there is a hadeeth which states that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever trails his garment on the ground out of pride, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection." Abu Bakr said to him, "O Messenger of Allaah, my izaar slips down if I do not pay attention to it." He said: "You are not one of those who do it out of pride." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 5784)
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Mirza Sahib, What about socks ?

And what about covering in winter ? or in snow ?
Thanks
 

Rana Tahir Mahmood

Senator (1k+ posts)
Is it part of Muslims' basic belief or just social ethics or traditional requirements? Which we made a radical requirement of Muslims. The Islamic concept of dress is to wear proper clothes as per requirement of individual's covering (PARDA) explained in the Quran Majeed.
 

kmanzar

Voter (50+ posts)
Is it part of Muslims' basic belief or just social ethics or traditional requirements? Which we made a radical requirement of Muslims. The Islamic concept of dress is to wear proper clothes as per requirement of individual's covering (PARDA) explained in the Quran Majeed.

Careful study of these Ahadeeths (within their context and in light of the Quran) can explain very easily the actual message that was given. It is not about specific dressing code, actually it was about the issue of arrogance and superiority feelings.

There was a practice among the elitists in Hijaz during Prophet’s (SAW) times to wear long dresses (called having ‘issba’al’), just to distinguished themselves from commons. It was also a sign of arrogance and therefore, Prophet (SAW) discouraged this kind of arrogant behavior.

Problem occurs when we pass through such traditions and sayings, and we won’t try to find the actual sprit of the message (although we have a very good judgment tool, The Quran, Al-Meezaan with us). And as a result, a common observation is watching people around those fulfilling such rulings just outwardly without having it's true sprit (i.e. wearing dress above ankles but full of arrogance and showoff and so) and this happen because of not understanding such sayings and incidents in the light of Quran.

And yes, it’s a part of Muslim’s basic belief to through off his arrogance :), although it's not linked with any specific type and style of dress
 
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Raaz

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It is right. What ever dress or cap U think is non Islamic, do not do it.

The main thing is Muslim's down fall . and lack of knowledge , lack of personal skill development.

Could Rasool Ullah tolerate his nation's down fall ? And disregards by the Christians and Jews.

Why dont we call Muslims to be get education and training , take care of ourself , and go to moon , to discover and prove the Miracle of Allah , exhibited by Our Pyare Muhammad .pbuh

This will be the fastest way to tell people about Allah and Muhammad and the right path.

Any way , I prey to Allah Talla , to save our nation from Mulla . Who dont know that why Rasool Ullah said so .
 

kmanzar

Voter (50+ posts)
Is it not enough to accept what ever Rasool Allah said.



Yes, and it is also necessary to understand the real sprit of the message by using rationale and understanding of the context, in the light of Quran, so that it shouldn’t be the case that someone fulfills the message outwardly and do not understand the actual sprit.

That’s why Quran lays so much stress on rational approach and understanding (like: sum’a tafakaroo (surah 34, ayah 46) and so many other places too), even for understanding its own ayahs.

So three things must keep in picture while reading any content linked to Prophet (SAW): -
- Authenticity (sehat)
- Context
- Underneath message (in light of Quran)

So, considering above three conditions, life (both: this and hereafter) will be easier :)

"BUT" and "IF" are shaitan's words.

There isn’t anything like ‘shaitan’s word’, actually it’s a matter of intention (niyyat)
 
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Raaz

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Careful study of these Ahadeeths (within their context and in light of the Quran) can explain very easily the actual message that was given. It is not about specific dressing code, actually it was about the issue of arrogance and superiority feelings.

There was a practice among the elitists in Hijaz during Prophet’s (SAW) times to wear long dresses (called having ‘issba’al’), just to distinguished themselves from commons. It was also a sign of arrogance and therefore, Prophet (SAW) discouraged this kind of arrogant behavior.

Problem occurs when we pass through such traditions and sayings, and we won’t try to find the actual sprit of the message (although we have a very good judgment tool, The Quran, Al-Meezaan with us). And as a result, a common observation is watching people around those fulfilling such rulings just outwardly without having it's true sprit (i.e. wearing dress above ankles but full of arrogance and showoff and so) and this happen because of not understanding such sayings and incidents in the light of Quran.

And yes, it’s a part of Muslim’s basic belief to through off his arrogance :), although it's not linked with any specific type and style of dress

Very good and understandable post. Thanks brother.
Look at Arab leader, it was banned the reason is quite obvious.


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Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yes, and it is also necessary to understand the real sprit of the message by using rationale and understanding of the context, in the light of Quran, so that it shouldn’t be the case that someone fulfills the message outwardly and do not understand the actual sprit. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

Kmanzar
I am not against Rational Thinking. But you will admit if think with care that.
Most of the time "Rational Thinking" in religious things could lead to change in the message.

like for example
We used to recite Quran in low voice(not loudly) in Zuhar,asar prayer. Now what is the rational argument for that. (I have one)
 

kmanzar

Voter (50+ posts)
Kmanzar
Most of the time "Rational Thinking" in religious things could lead to change in the message.

In some extent, I agree with you :)

It could be the case when someone try to do rationale with some specific bad intentions or someone's rationale driven by someone’s own emotional bindings (جذبات کے تا بعی عقل ) or like this ..

But in general, it won't do any harm, that's why (as I already said) Quran lays too much stress on rational analysis.

In one place, (Al-Furqan, verse 73) the holy Quran rather describes one of the quality of Momanins that they won’t fall deaf and blind even when Allah’s ayaah’s present in front of them. Some of more (out of so many) references from Quran in support of rational thinking are as: -

- Baq'ra Verse No. 170 ~ 171
- A'araaf Verse No. 179
- Anfa'l Verse No. 22
- Yunas Verse No. 42
- Yunas Verse No. 100
- Saba Verse No. 46
- Al-Mulk Verse No. 10
...

So my brother, baat ko samjho ke, aqal itnee bhi bore cheez nahin :)
 
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Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)

In some extent, I agree with you :)

It could be the case when someone try to do rationale with some specific bad intentions or someone's rationale driven by someone’s own emotional bindings (جذبات کے تا بعی عقل ) or like this ..

But in general, it won't do any harm, that's why (as I already said) Quran lays too much stress on rational analysis.

In one place, (Al-Furqan, verse 73) the holy Quran rather describes one of the quality of Momanins that they won’t fall deaf and blind even when Allah’s ayaah’s present in front of them. Some of more (out of so many) references from Quran in support of rational thinking are as: -

- Baq'ra Verse No. 170 ~ 171
- A'araaf Verse No. 179
- Anfa'l Verse No. 22
- Yunas Verse No. 42
- Yunas Verse No. 100
- Saba Verse No. 46
- Al-Mulk Verse No. 10
...

So my brother, baat ko samjho ke, aqal itnee bhi bore cheez nahin :)

Dear even without bad intentions relying on Rational thinking can cause problem

I have asked you that whose rational thinkings we should use to create laws?
and isnt it a fact that every individual (mostly) thinks that His thinkings is more rational then the others.

Dear I know Aqal is important and that is what i have said earlier but baz jagohon par Aqal nahi Aqeeda use karna bahtr hy. and I am saying it using My Aqal :)
 
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atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Mirza Sahib, What about socks ?

And what about covering in winter ? or in snow ?
Thanks

Raaz Bhai, Covering and Hanging two different things. Socks cover the ankle, long robe/dress will hang behind.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم

Very good and understandable post. Thanks brother.
Look at Arab leader, it was banned the reason is quite obvious.

Everyone is responsible for its deeds. Someones mistake is not a excuse for me.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
Dear even without bad intentions relying on Rational thinking can cause problem

I have asked you that whose rational thinkings we should use to create laws?
and isnt it a fact that every individual (mostly) thinks that His thinkings is more rational then the others.

Dear I know Aqal is important and that is what i have said earlier but baz jagohon par Aqal nahi Aqeeda use karna bahtr hy. and I am saying it using My Aqal :)

Rationale thinking can only take us astray if our intentions are not correct or our knowledge is pretty limited in that area. If you believe that words of Allah and Rasool are supreme and most authentic truths then why afraid of analyzing them rationally. This is the reasons why we are not prepared to face the world of today becuase we do not know what and why we are doing. Quran I believe is the only religious book that emphasized on using Aqal and asks us to think and understand, because Allah knows that no matter at what angle you analyze His book the truth will always turn out to be what is provided in the book. I kind of do not agree with the idea of "OMG you are arguing against Allahs word". To me those who do not argue have less eman on the authenticity of the book than those who do it with good intention.
If you do a compartive study of previous Prophets as compared to Prophet PBUH. You will notice that he is the only prophet without any explicit Miracle. The people of his time asked him for a miracle multple times and Allah refused to provide him any except for Shaqul qamar. However other prophets came with things that they could demonstrate right infornt of the masses. Why Allah would do that to Muhammad PBUH? It is becuase He sent the greatest miracles of all times Quran. The miracles of that book can not be understood untill you analyze its contents, think about it, rationalize it. At the time when Prophet Muhammad PBUH was sent human race had enough knowledge and wisdom to understand the message or Quran. Allah also knew that with growing human knowledge and wisdom they can do a comparitive study of His book at any point in time and will be able to understand this miracle. But to do that we need to study and understand. Just being a muslims becuase our parents were and donot question any thing may help us get to the Jannat, if our parents were following the true spirit of the deen, but it will not help us to do serve the prupose of our presence in the world and it is dawat. To make others understand what Islam is and why we folow its teaching.
The rational study is important to answer the questions of many wise people who would argue and critisize our practices.
 

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