Imran Khan - Justice?

[sher_khan]

Imran Khan's party is called Tehreeke Insaaf. LOL

Interestingly people are trying to get justice from Imran's doings in the past.

I don't know who is right and who is wrong. I don't even know if t's relevant anymore (what Imran used to do in the past).

However, I find it ironic that his party is called Tehreeke Insaaf.

I wish Imran all the best in politics but still want him to apolgize to Qasim Omer. Qasim Omer did serve Pakistan to the best of his abilities when Imran and Miandad were away for a long time due to their injuries.


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[armani]

Imran is a human after all. In his 21 celebrative years on the field you can not expect him to come out as an angel. There must be cons in his personality. So, figuring him as a bad leader does not make any sense for his might few mistakes. If you refresh his whole career for a second, all you see is glory and greatness. One should not forget the most important element comes up with the psyche of Pakistani celebrities (specifically athletes, more specifically cricketers) is their extreme pride. It is not an easy job to lead such big heads. And the most common sense making factor in leading such big heads is to be even a bigger header or you will be roll down like dozens of Pakistani skippers. And do not forget his efforts and vision in giving many great cricketers to the country.
How many great skippers ( leaders) Pakistan cricket has produced in last 60 years? The only name which will hit your mind is Imran. Even only this argument is good to accept his greatness.
Imran is the only hope for the hopeless nation.

 

[Tanweer.Amjad]

It was nice to see Qasim Omar after such a long time. If someone knows about him, I will try to meet him. Regarding the Imarn Khan tussle, everybody knows Imran Khan was a dictator in the team, because Cricket doesn't need democracy, it just needs opinion. If you have 6 junior players, you need not know their consent because they know little about pressures in Cricket. The "WORLD" admits he was a true captain who knew all the winning tactics and is regarded as the finest cricketer Pakistan has ever had. Under his captaincy, Pakistan Cricket has one of the better times since 1947. And he introduced a lot of players in the team from very poor background and nourished their talents. Had he been lacking leadership and skills in Cricket, no one would have been requesting him to stay in the team or return as captain in the team. Wasim Akram had the similar qualities although he got blamed for match fixing issues in WC1999 and his career was spoiled at the end although he was more talented (in my opinion than Imran Khan). Inzamam, I have heard, had been playing his own 11 all the time ignoring Woolmer or PCB's opinions. Javed Miandad was unlucky as a captain, people didn't perform very well under him although he was (arguably) the best batsman for Pakistan.
Oxford University is considered amongst the better universities of UK, there are a lot other universities with very low standard in UK.
Shaukat Khanum Cancer Hospital was the result of personal efforts made by him and his strong passion which convinced others to help him in this MEGA project. Of course it is not his own money, but he has got the trust of people to donate for his Hospital.
Regarding the name of the party, I don't care whatever the name of the party could be, because people don't support the name of the party, they support leaders. If PPP changes its name to MQM, Jiyalas will move to MQM, if ANP changes its name to Sunni Tehreek, red flags will move to Sunni Tehreek. Because people trust their leaders so they follow them wherever they are.

 

[hnuter555]

what a plunker he is s? so called mullah ? want compensation after abandoning pakistan and lick the english for 30 odd years and he still want oplogy ? if he just a topie drama if he cant forgive after 30 years what islam he is fallowing people forgive murders in 30 years and this guy cant take few harsh words

and its unfair to have media trail of some one in his absense what a bios host and bios guest see his program with abdul qadir

 

[MQMLover]

A typical example of opportunist. He sees PPP can use him for a propoganda against Imran as he is very vocal against Zardari.

Zardari will reinstate him in MCB, us ki kaun si jaib say jata hai.

Imran has said many times many times that there are cetain things he is not so proud of and using strong words to keep discipline in the team was one of them.

Next thing Qasim should do is sue the school teachers for mental torture they had given him in his childhood, resulting his mental undergrowth.

 

[Jury]

It was nice to see Qasim Omar after such a long time. If someone knows about him, I will try to meet him. Regarding the Imarn Khan tussle, everybody knows Imran Khan was a dictator in the team, because Cricket doesn't need democracy, it just needs opinion. If you have 6 junior players, you need not know their consent because they know little about pressures in Cricket. The "WORLD" admits he was a true captain who knew all the winning tactics and is regarded as the finest cricketer Pakistan has ever had. Under his captaincy, Pakistan Cricket has one of the better times since 1947. And he introduced a lot of players in the team from very poor background and nourished their talents. Had he been lacking leadership and skills in Cricket, no one would have been requesting him to stay in the team or return as captain in the team. Wasim Akram had the similar qualities although he got blamed for match fixing issues in WC1999 and his career was spoiled at the end although he was more talented (in my opinion than Imran Khan). Inzamam, I have heard, had been playing his own 11 all the time ignoring Woolmer or PCB's opinions. Javed Miandad was unlucky as a captain, people didn't perform very well under him although he was (arguably) the best batsman for Pakistan.
Oxford University is considered amongst the better universities of UK, there are a lot other universities with very low standard in UK.
Shaukat Khanum Cancer Hospital was the result of personal efforts made by him and his strong passion which convinced others to help him in this MEGA project. Of course it is not his own money, but he has got the trust of people to donate for his Hospital.
Regarding the name of the party, I don't care whatever the name of the party could be, because people don't support the name of the party, they support leaders. If PPP changes its name to MQM, Jiyalas will move to MQM, if ANP changes its name to Sunni Tehreek, red flags will move to Sunni Tehreek. Because people trust their leaders so they follow them wherever they are.

Yes, when it comes to particular class of people, we don't need democracy.
But, if matters belong to common class of people, we need democracy.

I read that news in daily jung myself. It was in mid 80's, when Qasim accused him.
Qasim took stand against that class of man, who rules, even if they are not in govt.

 

[sher_khan]

Imran is a human after all. In his 21 celebrative years on the field you can not expect him to come out as an angel. There must be cons in his personality. So, figuring him as a bad leader does not make any sense for his might few mistakes. If you refresh his whole career for a second, all you see is glory and greatness. One should not forget the most important element comes up with the psyche of Pakistani celebrities (specifically athletes, more specifically cricketers) is their extreme pride. It is not an easy job to lead such big heads. And the most common sense making factor in leading such big heads is to be even a bigger header or you will be roll down like dozens of Pakistani skippers. And do not forget his efforts and vision in giving many great cricketers to the country.
How many great skippers ( leaders) Pakistan cricket has produced in last 60 years? The only name which will hit your mind is Imran. Even only this argument is good to accept his greatness.
Imran is the only hope for the hopeless nation.

Actually, I don't just see glory when I look back at his career. Undoubtedly, near the end of his career, he was the most successful captain Pakistan has ever had.
However, I do remember Imran and company politically kicking out Miandad from captaincy. Pakistan reached frst time into the finals of a cricket tournamnet under the captaincy of Miandad not Imran Khan.
I can also distinctly remember Imran Khan dropping Miandad from the 1992 world cup. Pakistan team went to Australia without Miandad. Waqar Younus got injured and was sent back home. He was replaced by Miandad (a batsman replacing a bowler). Minadad became the highest scoring batsman in the tournament. The reason given for his earlier elimination from the team was Miandad's fitness. His fitness dramatically improved within three days.
Leaders are very influential to their juniors. During Inzimam's tenure as a captain majority of the players were disciplined and avoided controversies. Imran Khan's leadeship produced players who were inclined towards matchfixing and showing disregard to the country that gave them a career.
Everyone is accountable for his/her actions. If people do wrong to other people they should pat the price. Not being proud of the past is not good enough. This way our whole political class can get away with everything it has doen in the past. The veryt thing Imran is against.
Imran should set standards and should apologize.

 

[sher_khan]

It was nice to see Qasim Omar after such a long time. If someone knows about him, I will try to meet him. Regarding the Imarn Khan tussle, everybody knows Imran Khan was a dictator in the team, because Cricket doesn't need democracy, it just needs opinion. If you have 6 junior players, you need not know their consent because they know little about pressures in Cricket. The "WORLD" admits he was a true captain who knew all the winning tactics and is regarded as the finest cricketer Pakistan has ever had. Under his captaincy, Pakistan Cricket has one of the better times since 1947. And he introduced a lot of players in the team from very poor background and nourished their talents. Had he been lacking leadership and skills in Cricket, no one would have been requesting him to stay in the team or return as captain in the team. Wasim Akram had the similar qualities although he got blamed for match fixing issues in WC1999 and his career was spoiled at the end although he was more talented (in my opinion than Imran Khan). Inzamam, I have heard, had been playing his own 11 all the time ignoring Woolmer or PCB's opinions. Javed Miandad was unlucky as a captain, people didn't perform very well under him although he was (arguably) the best batsman for Pakistan.
Oxford University is considered amongst the better universities of UK, there are a lot other universities with very low standard in UK.
Shaukat Khanum Cancer Hospital was the result of personal efforts made by him and his strong passion which convinced others to help him in this MEGA project. Of course it is not his own money, but he has got the trust of people to donate for his Hospital.
Regarding the name of the party, I don't care whatever the name of the party could be, because people don't support the name of the party, they support leaders. If PPP changes its name to MQM, Jiyalas will move to MQM, if ANP changes its name to Sunni Tehreek, red flags will move to Sunni Tehreek. Because people trust their leaders so they follow them wherever they are.

Needless to say his contributions to Pakistan as a cricketer and a citizen are immense. However, I don't see him as the best thing ever happened to Pakistani cricket. Also, I see double standards being exercised by him. Jusitce is not only for a specific people in Pakistan. It should be for every one. Imran Khan should at the minimum apologize to Qasim. After all Omer's revealations regarding the corruption turned out to be true on the longrun and did cost him his cricketing career in Pakistan. Cricket is now better without those irregularities.

 

[sher_khan]

what a plunker he is s? so called mullah ? want compensation after abandoning pakistan and lick the english for 30 odd years and he still want oplogy ? if he just a topie drama if he cant forgive after 30 years what islam he is fallowing people forgive murders in 30 years and this guy cant take few harsh words

and its unfair to have media trail of some one in his absense what a bios host and bios guest see his program with abdul qadir

Don't be so rude. Show a little sympathy to Qasim's situation. All he knew was to play cricket. That was his livelihood. That's how he earned his bread and butter. He was kicked out from the Pakistani cricket team for telling the truth and got verally abused, by Imran. Imran Khan was the king in Pakistan those days. A cricketing department could not go against him. Qasim was playing his departmental cricket in Pakistan for Muslim Commercial Bank, whic also kicked him out following Imran's actions, otherwise no other player from the bank would have ever played for Pakistan.

If you were disrespected and kicked out of your work place and obstacles were put in place so that you could't get your field related job anywhere in the country, would you have stayed in the country? Specially if you were offered a job somewhere esle? I don't know what Qasim is doing in England now but I know for a fact that he was a cricket coach of Holland in the past.

Don't overplay this forgiveness drama. Omar had to suffer a lot because of the doings of others. We all take forgiveness for granted. It is upto the party which suffered to exercise forgiveness or not. You and I can't make the decision for them.

If forgiveness is such a great thing the why does not our country and Imran Khan just forgive people involved in NRO?

Can't have double standards.

 

[sher_khan]

A typical example of opportunist. He sees PPP can use him for a propoganda against Imran as he is very vocal against Zardari.

Zardari will reinstate him in MCB, us ki kaun si jaib say jata hai.

Imran has said many times many times that there are cetain things he is not so proud of and using strong words to keep discipline in the team was one of them.

Next thing Qasim should do is sue the school teachers for mental torture they had given him in his childhood, resulting his mental undergrowth.

So I guess that things are very simple in Pakistan. If Zardari, Musharaf, Shraifs and Altaf just say that we are not proud of our past then ImranKhan will stop going after them.

 

[khalid100]

Lets call a spade a spade.
Imran did good for Pakistan Cricket, well done!
He did good for humanity and opened the hospital, well done!
He is constantly working for the betterment of Pakistan, marvelous!
But that doesn't make him above the law.

I still remember 80s when Qasim Umer accused that certain players are involved in smuggling drugs in sports gear. He was thrown out of the game altogether. Nobody did any investigation. Poor Qasim didn't realize that these players had connections at the high level in govt.
And we have morons here in Pakistan who want to let thing go unnoticed because IK did good things. Yes he did good things but he also did bad things. And if wants to live upto the reputation of Justice/Honesty then he needs to apologize for what he did to Qasim Umer. That will only increase his respect in the eyes of people.

But these things only happen civilized cultures....

 

[Tanweer.Amjad]

Yes Imran Khan should set standard because he is different from others. We should expect him to comment on this issue. He is not angel but as a good human he should set standards which others are not willing to do for themselves.
Out of the 187 matches he played as a captain, he won 89 and lost, lost 67 whereas 31 were indecisive. I don't think one can find many with a similar or better record than him as a captain. every one knows what happened just after the world cup when he retired from Cricket.
The problem with some people is that they have to defend somebody with MQM inclination (Miandad). No one can change the history that Imran Khan used the most of his players in the best way. Pakistani team performed the best under him, no matter it could be Miandad, Salim Malik, Wasim Akram or Abdul Qadir.
MQM people want to add as many posts in favour of their motives as possible. But propagating here won't change any thing in the sound minds who actually can see who did what in Pakistan.

 

[motasimmasood]

If he's so true and confident, why doesnt he go to court and sue Imran instead of asking his lowness mr. president and the pm for compansation??,, it's the job of courts to deliver justice not president and pm.

 

[AKBER BADSHAH]

very well sad qasim omer sb.please islam ka libada orney se insan nahe ban jata aap ko yeh bilkul zaib nahe daita key 30 sal bad aaj kisi key kehney per aap intahay sach muslman hogai hain.yaqenan imran se beh ghalti hosakti hai woh aik insan hai.lakin aap ko beh islam ka getup kar key ess tara progreme main akar jis bat ka koiy hasel nahe hain kar rahe hai kisi ke kehne per.janab main aap ko uss zamaney se janta hon jab aap ke walda baldia 3 number main rehty teh aur aap ne jab austrila main performence di tu aap ko Allah ka shukar ada karna chaeye tha na ke chaheye tha.landon main 30 sal guzarney ke bad aaj apko mcb bank yadh araha hai .aap ne koi katal tu nahe kiye teh Altaf [altaf] yahmusharaf [musharaf] ke tara ke landan main bath gaye teh.lakin aaj unkey esharey per jaisy pehlay election main sita white namodar hgai teh.janab abh media azzad hai aur awam key dilo se aap imran khan ki mohobat ko khatam nahe karsaty yeh hatkandy poraney hochokey hai. [imran]

 

[pakistan-zindabad]

alots of nonsence...........
he is represinting mqm platform.........
allah apko england may khush rake.......
pakistan dosnt need ur help

 

[sher_khan]

Yes Imran Khan should set standard because he is different from others. We should expect him to comment on this issue. He is not angel but as a good human he should set standards which others are not willing to do for themselves.
Out of the 187 matches he played as a captain, he won 89 and lost, lost 67 whereas 31 were indecisive. I don't think one can find many with a similar or better record than him as a captain. every one knows what happened just after the world cup when he retired from Cricket.
The problem with some people is that they have to defend somebody with MQM inclination (Miandad). No one can change the history that Imran Khan used the most of his players in the best way. Pakistani team performed the best under him, no matter it could be Miandad, Salim Malik, Wasim Akram or Abdul Qadir.
MQM people want to add as many posts in favour of their motives as possible. But propagating here won't change any thing in the sound minds who actually can see who did what in Pakistan.

Grow up. The issue does not have anything to do with ethnicity. I don't belong to MQM. However, I do notice similarities in the people wjo follow politcal parties in pakistan. They all treat their leaders as gods. People's Party get votes because of Bhutto family. Same with Sharif family and ML-N. MQM people worship Altaf. Thereeke-Insaaf people are one step away from buiding a worship temple for Imran Khan. Here is a news-flash.... They all are humanbeings and make mistakes.

Imran Khan should not only talk the talk but also walk the walk. If he wants justice then it should start from him.

Furthermore, all the players that you have mentioned above performed well in their careers with or without Imran Khan.

Also, show me in the constitution of Pakistan where it says that anyone who has a cricket record like Imran is above the law.

While you are at it, ask Imran khan his plan for the power crisis of Pakistan, that is, if he has one.
Please do inform him that the Swat operation has been successful. Imran said that the people and youth of Swat will hate Pakistanies and the army for their actions. Based on BBC udru sevice, the majority of the children in Swat after this operation want to become army officers when they grow up. Ask Imran, what he learned from this political mistake.

 

[sher_khan]

If he's so true and confident, why doesnt he go to court and sue Imran instead of asking his lowness mr. president and the pm for compansation??,, it's the job of courts to deliver justice not president and pm.

You are right. I think that he should have gone to the court. I don't know the right answer to your question.

However, I can speculate. Since Imran was so heavily involved in helping the restoration of the judiciary, Qasim may have thought that the courts will be partial towards Imran.

The issue is called independence. If the judges of Qasim's case are close to Imran then the objectvity can be imparied.

I must say that I have never read anything about it but while watching the GEO news I learnt that there is no independence clause in our judicial system. That is, Justice Iftikhar can preside the judicial bench that will make a decision regarding Musharaf. This is a problem because the relationship between the two is not a friendly one.

As I said earlier, this is a pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong.

 

[khalid100]

alots of nonsence...........
he is represinting mqm platform.........
allah apko england may khush rake.......
pakistan dosnt need ur help

Where did MQM come into all of this?
And btw I'm no supporter of MQM or any party...

 

[AKBER BADSHAH]

mr.naam badalne se yah apna naam sher khan rakhney see mqm ki zhenyat nahe badal sakti.janab aap log kehtey hain ke imran khan key pass bijli key aur tamam bohranoo ka koi hal hai tu jawab main arz hai key bilkul hai.aap logo ne ppp,pmln,pmlq,ghq,pmln,ppp.aur dosri qom parast jumatey mqm,anp tamam joh eqtidar ki khater hamesha fazul ur rehman ki tara hokomat key sat shamel rehtey hain aur mafadat hasel kartey hain kuch mulk key liye nahe kiya.azmaiy howey ko kiya azmana.abh imran ki bare hai <img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/imran.gif\" alt=\"[imran]\" title=\"imran\" /> [/color]alid100][quote="pakistan-zindabad":1w51w1kx]alots of nonsence...........
he is represinting mqm platform.........
allah apko england may khush rake.......
pakistan dosnt need ur help

Where did MQM come into all of this?
And btw I'm no supporter of MQM or any party...[/quote:1w51w1kx]

 

[sher_khan]

[quote="khmr.naam badalne se yah apna naam sher khan rakhney see mqm ki zhenyat nahe badal sakti.janab aap log kehtey hain ke imran khan key pass bijli key aur tamam bohranoo ka koi hal hai tu jawab main arz hai key bilkul hai.aap logo ne ppp,pmln,pmlq,ghq,pmln,ppp.aur dosri qom parast jumatey mqm,anp tamam joh eqtidar ki khater hamesha fazul ur rehman ki tara hokomat key sat shamel rehtey hain aur mafadat hasel kartey hain kuch mulk key liye nahe kiya.azmaiy howey ko kiya azmana.abh imran ki bare hai alid100":9kl564s0][quote="pakistan-zindabad":9kl564s0]alots of nonsence...........
he is represinting mqm platform.........
allah apko england may khush rake.......
pakistan dosnt need ur help

Where did MQM come into all of this?
And btw I'm no supporter of MQM or any party...[/quote:9kl564s0][/quote:9kl564s0]

What the hell are you writing. I don't undersand a word of it. Please clean up your post and I will respond to you.
A request: please either write the whole thing in urdu or english. Get rid of this roman urdu crap. It gives me a headache. Thanks.