Is God Also Racist?

[Citizen X]

it contained answers to common questions of Deen

Yeah its called the Quran, not some book written by some desi mullah

6 class of books of Hadith which are supposed to be most authentic,

Oh FFS! They aren't 6 class of books, they are literally six books, called the Siha Sitta, literally meaning the authentic six. Bukhari, Muslim, Dawud, Tirmidi, Maja and Nisai. Just goes to show how little even of the basics you know but are dead set on following them blindly

It is not possible for common muslim to scrouge through these thousands of hadith to look for an answer

So how many of the Siha Sitta have you read?

And thats an extremely lame argument, if majority of the deen is contained in these books then shouldn't people read it themselves, just like the Quran? Next you'll say the Quran is too long for the common Muslim so leave that to the so called scholars as well.

Oh wait! That's exactly what you lot have done. Sub contracted Islam to these jahil bhaands moulvis who have dragged in these fabricated books just so they can have authority over you and made a mockery out of Islam and turned it into some Judeo-Christian-Hindu-Zorastrian type religion

 

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Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in his left shoulder, ‘To hell, and I do not care’.”

Mishkat al-Masabih 119 - Faith - كتاب الإيمان - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Seems like the god of the man made Islam is very racist. No wonder you will find accounts of "white" beautiful hoors in heaven in these fabricated books.

Not only these people just falsely associate lies to the Prophet they also falsely associate blasphemy to the Prophet and lies about Allah saying the Prophet said this.

Can anyone in his sane mind accept this as something that Allah might have said and then relayed it through the Prophet to us? The same creator who brought us.

Quran 49:13 declares: “O humankind! We have made you…into nations and tribes, so that you may get to know one another. The noblest of you in God’s sight is the one who is most righteous.”

Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in his left shoulder, ‘To hell, and I do not care’.”

Mishkat al-Masabih 119 - Faith - كتاب الإيمان - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Seems like the god of the man made Islam is very racist. No wonder you will find accounts of "white" beautiful hoors in heaven in these fabricated books.

Not only these people just falsely associate lies to the Prophet they also falsely associate blasphemy to the Prophet and lies about Allah saying the Prophet said this.

Can anyone in his sane mind accept this as something that Allah might have said and then relayed it through the Prophet to us? The same creator who brought us.

Quran 49:13 declares: “O humankind! We have made you…into nations and tribes, so that you may get to know one another. The noblest of you in God’s sight is the one who is most righteous.”

Wake up Pak

I feel like shouting
"You can't handle the truth!" -from Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men.
You are unhappy with racism in Hadith and are not accepting the explanation given by a number of people that white mean , inside. You find it ridiculous.
But let me ask you a question.

Is it OK to be sexist but wrong to be racist ?

You only believe in Quran. you dont accept hadees because it is racist.
But you can't see in black and white Quran clearly preaches sexist practice.
Half testimony for women. Half inheritance for a daughter. Husband can hit a disobedient wife but a wife can't hit a disobedient husband.

Do you know any law book anywhere in the world where if a woman witnesses a crime it will be taken as half testimony? Do you know any law book where an offspring can not get the equal inheritance because of her gender. Do you any law book where Husband hitting wife is acceptable but is a crime if a wife does the same.
And you don't have any problems with such sexism?
Do not use logic with the religion because religion is based on faith not logic.
Newton was the smartest man world has ever seen, he was a practicing Christian. Dr Abdus Salam believed he discovered formulating the electroweak theory, which explains the unity of the weak nuclear force and electromagnetism from Quran. Dr Abdul Salam was a Qadyani. Steven Weinberg discovered the same theory one year before Dr Abdus Salam and he was an atheist.

You can't prove a religion wrong by logic. You will not stop believing on Quran though I proved to you that Quran laws ( according to todays standards) are sexist and no law book can be sexist.
I Believe there must be some logic in God's opinion that's why God wrote those laws. I still read the holy Quran to get peace of mind. I also believe on Hafees. Noone can practice Quran without practicing hadith.

Let the people believe on hadees because neither you nor they can pass the logic test.

 

[Citizen X]

"You can't handle the truth!" -from Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men.

I didn't order no code red, and you know very well what happened to Colonel Jessup after that.

you dont accept hadees because it is racist.

Absolutely not. I don't only not accept hadith because its racist or sexist or whatever, I don't accept it because majority of it is nothing but fairytales written by defeated persians 2 to 3 centuries after the Prophet passed away, attributing lies and falsehood to the Prophet.

If we were supposed to follow these hadith Allah would have tasked the Prophet to have them written down, verified and preserved in his lifetime and spread throughout the land via mass transmission written and oral. Like I dunno he did with another book. The Holy Quran.

And really mate? Trying to compare commandments of Allah from the Quran to this fabricated garbage, I mean come on really!!!

 

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I didn't order no code red, and you know very well what happened to Colonel Jessup after that.



Absolutely not. I don't only not accept hadith because its racist or sexist or whatever, I don't accept it because majority of it is nothing but fairytales written by defeated persians 2 to 3 centuries after the Prophet passed away, attributing lies and falsehood to the Prophet.

If we were supposed to follow these hadith Allah would have tasked the Prophet to have them written down, verified and preserved in his lifetime and spread throughout the land via mass transmission written and oral. Like I dunno he did with another book. The Holy Quran.

And really mate? Trying to compare commandments of Allah from the Quran to this fabricated garbage, I mean come on really!!!

You completely ignored all my arguments about sexism in Quran, and how could anyone justify them.
You are rejecting hadith because of logic. But you are accepting Quran by not applying the same logic.
Can you justify
1) half testimony of females
2) half inheritance of a daughter
3) husband is allowed to hit his wife for disobedience but wife is prohibited to do the same.
Logic allows these laws ? You don't have any problems with these laws.
Will you write in you Will that your son gets double inheritance compare to your daughter?

 

[Panthar_pk]

LOL will do anything to defend this garbage. Now tell me how ذُرِّيَّةً بَيْضَاءَ ذُرِّيَّةً سَوْدَاءَ mean anything other than white progeny and black progeny. If it was talking about deeds it would say amal un baidah and amal un souda i.e white deeds and black deeds.

simple logic unless you have to stubborn to understand, there is no offspring from shoulders, the angles on your shoulders recording your every deed every action

Quran 50:17
As the two recording-angels—˹one˺ sitting to the right, and ˹the other to˺ the left—note ˹everything˺,

 

[Wake up Pak]

1) half testimony of females
2) half inheritance of a daughter
3) husband is allowed to hit his wife for disobedience but wife is prohibited to do the same.

1) No verse says that half testimonies of females.
2) The Quran promotes writing a will before death approaches.
3) Husband is not allowed to hit his wife. Erroneous translations.

 

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1) No verse says that half testimonies of females.
2) The Quran promotes writing a will before death approaches.
3) Husband is not allowed to hit his wife. Erroneous translations.

you wrote
1) No verse says that half testimonies of females.

Answer In the second chapter of the Quran, Al-Baqarah, verse 2:282 provides a basis for the rule that two women are the equivalent of one man.

2) the issue is not whether the Quran makes you write a will , the issue is, the Quran says half inheritance for a daughter .

The concept of a daughter receiving half the inheritance compared to a son is found in the Quran in Surah An-Nisa (Chapter 4), verse 11.

The verse states:

"Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females.

3) The translation of a husband hitting his wife is unanimously agreed upon.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Answer In the second chapter of the Quran, Al-Baqarah, verse 2:282 provides a basis for the rule that two women are the equivalent of one man.

The concept of a daughter receiving half the inheritance compared to a son is found in the Quran in Surah An-Nisa (Chapter 4), verse 11.

Quran 2:180 It is prescribed that when death approaches any of you, and you are leaving wealth, it is an obligation that you include your parents and relatives equitably in a will. This is a duty for those who are mindful of God.

The translation of a husband hitting his wife is unanimously agreed upon.

Now this is just plain nonsense that hitting a wife is unanimously agreed upon.
Will you hit your wife? Or will you accept any of your relatives or acquaintances hitting their wives?

 

[Citizen X]

But you are accepting Quran by not applying the same logic

That is exactly your problem, your applying the same logic to manmade garbage that you apply to the Quran. When they are not even in the same ballpark forget category. One is divine revelation from God and one garbage written centuries later by liars and losers.

I am not even going to go into any discussion over your whataboutery because it is going to detract from this topic you cannot answer, so lets muddy the waters and derail the topic. Usual tactic you folk, the Ahl e how do you pray*

P.S : Don't think I have forgotten my questions which still remain unanswered from our previous engagement.

* A new term coined by me for you garbage book followers because that is the only question you know and think you have smoking gun in any debate which usually ends up in the Ahle how do you pray declaring a unilateral victory and running away

Wake up Pak what do you think of the new name

 

[Citizen X]

simple logic unless you have to stubborn to understand, there is no offspring from shoulders, the angles on your shoulders recording your every deed every action

Quran 50:17
As the two recording-angels—˹one˺ sitting to the right, and ˹the other to˺ the left—note ˹everything˺,

So Adams progeny i.e us came out from his shoulders

This version is even worse than your first one!