Professor Ahmad Rafiq Akhtar answering Imran khan's Question
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rajakhanmd
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One of the basic quality of ''SUFI's'' was their love for humanity. Their followers included even HINDUS and other NON MUSLIMS and they were never judgmental about any human being, be it MUSLIM or NON MUSLIM.
I have followed couple of talks/lectures of Prof. Sb. and I have always felt his message has been a bit ''aggressive'' about other schools of thoughts. In my opinion that goes against the philosophy that he preaches.
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I have followed couple of talks/lectures of Prof. Sb. and I have always felt his message has been a bit ''aggressive'' about other schools of thoughts. In my opinion that goes against the philosophy that he preaches.
We love controversial issues. So lets begin..........
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khattaksahib
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This man is completely ignorant about this knowledge. Tablighi jummat has brought revolution in billions people in this world. People have started offering prayers, keeping fasts, left sharab and other crimes after coming in to this jummats' practice. He had been really ruthless while giving examples i.e. jab bhi yai jama hotay ho tou koi na koi affat zaroor aati hai, shame on you (can you quote any single example).
He didn't discuss the Quranic ayat which means that 'tum behteran ommat ho or tum logo ko neeki ki taraf bolanay walay ho' and Surat ul assaar which says that 'qasam hai zamanay ki kai insaan noqsaan main hai magar wo loog nahi jo emaan layai or neeak amal kartai rahay OOORRRRR "(apas mai haq baat ki takeeed kartai raha or sabr ki talqeen kartai rahay)".
This umatt is superior than other nations due to that job of Tableegh because there will be no prophet after Hazrat Mohammad (P.B.U.H) thus this ommat will do that job.
So sad to watch that IMRAN KHAN has also joined this jahel. Sorry for you IMRAN. We like you due to your sincerity and commitment to make this nation corruptness free. BUT please don't play with our religious sentiments. Prefer the field where you are best.
He didn't discuss the Quranic ayat which means that 'tum behteran ommat ho or tum logo ko neeki ki taraf bolanay walay ho' and Surat ul assaar which says that 'qasam hai zamanay ki kai insaan noqsaan main hai magar wo loog nahi jo emaan layai or neeak amal kartai rahay OOORRRRR "(apas mai haq baat ki takeeed kartai raha or sabr ki talqeen kartai rahay)".
This umatt is superior than other nations due to that job of Tableegh because there will be no prophet after Hazrat Mohammad (P.B.U.H) thus this ommat will do that job.
So sad to watch that IMRAN KHAN has also joined this jahel. Sorry for you IMRAN. We like you due to your sincerity and commitment to make this nation corruptness free. BUT please don't play with our religious sentiments. Prefer the field where you are best.
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Can any bro provide the reference(Name of Surah, No of chapter and Ayat) of Ayats, Prof Sb recited in his answer????? Thanx!
khattaksahib
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He doesn't know even muslims history. Does he know that the country MOZAMBEQUE was named after the name of muslim having name as (Mohammad Bin Baque) and Indonesia was enlighten by ONLY 6 muslims, who went their as Tajir(traders/retailers). Now mozambique has turned in to Kufr due to lack of this practice(Tableegh) in muslim omma.
Tablighi jummat members travel throughout the world for this purpose. They use their own money and resources and never demand anyone for it. They never call someone for becoming DEWOBANDI or any other sect but ISLAM. If they were wrong then during the WAR AGAINST TERROR , why didn't any country has banned them. They are presenting the true picture of ISLAM. They are making people's AKHERAT(which was the first call of OUR PROPHET(P.B.U.H) in Makkah.Sahaba also give sacrifices for this purpose. They left their hometowns and businesses for the same purpose.
Alas we are stucked by such so called OLAMA. I would rather call them JUHALA.
Tablighi jummat members travel throughout the world for this purpose. They use their own money and resources and never demand anyone for it. They never call someone for becoming DEWOBANDI or any other sect but ISLAM. If they were wrong then during the WAR AGAINST TERROR , why didn't any country has banned them. They are presenting the true picture of ISLAM. They are making people's AKHERAT(which was the first call of OUR PROPHET(P.B.U.H) in Makkah.Sahaba also give sacrifices for this purpose. They left their hometowns and businesses for the same purpose.
Alas we are stucked by such so called OLAMA. I would rather call them JUHALA.
khattaksahib
Voter (50+ posts)
Is this wrong step taken by Afridi???? Thats what Tableeghi Jummat is doing..............
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pakistan_pak
MPA (400+ posts)
United We Stand, Divided We Fall.................imran please don't be victim of their trap.He looks more recist than hindu bania.Its between Allah and Human who is near to him.
but one simple question...............who is following prophet sunna him or those who he is against them????
he like other peoples wana be in spot light but you can see his ignorance in his book, Pas-e-Hijab, he claims that in the galaxies other than ours, the faculty of human senses ceases to exist. On another occasion he maintains that if the force of gravity ceases to exist,the moon and the earth will collide. It is perfectly in contradiction to whatscience claims. As a matter of fact, if force of gravity is no longer there,the moon will cease to orbit around the earth. It will start moving away from the earth. Similarly he quotes scientific data in quite a misleading and erroneous way. He quotes that the thickness of earth and that of mountains on
it is 2.7. (He does not mention any units of thickness here). It is wrong, thefact being that 2.7 is the average specific gravity of the rocks of the
lithosphere. His books and orations are full of such scientific mistakes.
lets trash divident and be united as there was no suni,shia,baravely,duebandy,wahabi when ALLAH RELIGION IS COMPLETED , if in doubt read prophet (saw) last sermon.
please visit this web site for his ignorant views
http://criticismonprofakhta.tripod.com/pas_hij_rel.htm
but one simple question...............who is following prophet sunna him or those who he is against them????
he like other peoples wana be in spot light but you can see his ignorance in his book, Pas-e-Hijab, he claims that in the galaxies other than ours, the faculty of human senses ceases to exist. On another occasion he maintains that if the force of gravity ceases to exist,the moon and the earth will collide. It is perfectly in contradiction to whatscience claims. As a matter of fact, if force of gravity is no longer there,the moon will cease to orbit around the earth. It will start moving away from the earth. Similarly he quotes scientific data in quite a misleading and erroneous way. He quotes that the thickness of earth and that of mountains on
it is 2.7. (He does not mention any units of thickness here). It is wrong, thefact being that 2.7 is the average specific gravity of the rocks of the
lithosphere. His books and orations are full of such scientific mistakes.
lets trash divident and be united as there was no suni,shia,baravely,duebandy,wahabi when ALLAH RELIGION IS COMPLETED , if in doubt read prophet (saw) last sermon.
please visit this web site for his ignorant views
http://criticismonprofakhta.tripod.com/pas_hij_rel.htm
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Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
khattaksahib
And please tell me how Imran khan was playing with your religious sentiments? Just by asking a simple question?
And it was a genuine question too. Why Pakistan has become the epic centre of all evil, corruption, rape, murder, kidnap,target killing and looting when a huge number of jamat people working to stop such things, and why it is not working. Heck you can't even find pure milk medicine, not even mirchi, and we are ready to collapse. Don't you think it was an honest question?
And your sentiments got hurt by a question. If any body was playing with your sentiments, it should be the professor with his answer, and not Imran with his question.
And who gave you the authority to call ullama juhala?
You say they are presenting the true picture of Islam. Do you know them that good? Did you spend some time with them, a week-end, 40 days,4months,a year?
Do you think they do what they tell others to do? Because if they don't, you should know who they could be,
And please tell me how Imran khan was playing with your religious sentiments? Just by asking a simple question?
And it was a genuine question too. Why Pakistan has become the epic centre of all evil, corruption, rape, murder, kidnap,target killing and looting when a huge number of jamat people working to stop such things, and why it is not working. Heck you can't even find pure milk medicine, not even mirchi, and we are ready to collapse. Don't you think it was an honest question?
And your sentiments got hurt by a question. If any body was playing with your sentiments, it should be the professor with his answer, and not Imran with his question.
And who gave you the authority to call ullama juhala?
You say they are presenting the true picture of Islam. Do you know them that good? Did you spend some time with them, a week-end, 40 days,4months,a year?
Do you think they do what they tell others to do? Because if they don't, you should know who they could be,
pakistan_pak
MPA (400+ posts)
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
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khattaksahib
Voter (50+ posts)
khattaksahib
And please tell me how Imran khan was playing with your religious sentiments? Just by asking a simple question?
And it was a genuine question too. Why Pakistan has become the epic centre of all evil, corruption, rape, murder, kidnap,target killing and looting when a huge number of jamat people working to stop such things, and why it is not working. Heck you can't even find pure milk medicine, not even mirchi, and we are ready to collapse. Don't you think it was an honest question?
[HI]And your sentiments got hurt by a question. If any body was playing with your sentiments, it should be the professor with his answer, and not Imran with his question.
And who gave you the authority to call ullama juhala?
You say they are presenting the true picture of Islam. Do you know them that good? Did you spend some time with them, a week-end, 40 days,4months,a year?
Do you think they do what they tell others to do? Because if they don't, you should know who they could be,
[/HI]
Similar questions are replied differently by people based on their knowledge, experience and belief. If IMRAN KHAN ask the same question from Moulana Tariq Jameel, he will get completely different response. Additionally, it is said that 'if you want to judge someone intellectualness then concentrate on approach of asking question rather then approach of answering'. What was the need of asking such disputable question? What he wanted to listen from this professor? Every thing become clear, once you think positively. However,
1. If IMRAN was ignorant of this professor's mental approach, ideology etc etc then its IMRAN's mistake.
2. How can Tableeghi Jummat be held responsible for commitment of crimes in society. Its not tableegh, which teaches them to be thief, be corrupt etc etc. While I have already witnessed hundreds' of people, who left bad life after joining Tableegh. One of the tablighi Jummat motivated more than thousands non muslims to embrace Islam during their campaign in African country(I personally has met that Jummat members).
If you are aware of Islamic preachings then you must have read in books that "near Qayamat, these will be ullema, who will mislead the muslims towards path of Shaitann rather that that of Allah". If someone destroy my this world, I can forgive him but anyone who tries to destroy my Akherat, I can never.
And don't take so offensive about IMRAN KHAN. He is not only your leader, I also do respect him But the thing is that he should never indulge himself in those avenues, which don't belong to him. No one can justify his stance of asking question of this nature from person of that nature.
And please tell me how Imran khan was playing with your religious sentiments? Just by asking a simple question?
And it was a genuine question too. Why Pakistan has become the epic centre of all evil, corruption, rape, murder, kidnap,target killing and looting when a huge number of jamat people working to stop such things, and why it is not working. Heck you can't even find pure milk medicine, not even mirchi, and we are ready to collapse. Don't you think it was an honest question?
[HI]And your sentiments got hurt by a question. If any body was playing with your sentiments, it should be the professor with his answer, and not Imran with his question.
And who gave you the authority to call ullama juhala?
You say they are presenting the true picture of Islam. Do you know them that good? Did you spend some time with them, a week-end, 40 days,4months,a year?
Do you think they do what they tell others to do? Because if they don't, you should know who they could be,
[/HI]
Similar questions are replied differently by people based on their knowledge, experience and belief. If IMRAN KHAN ask the same question from Moulana Tariq Jameel, he will get completely different response. Additionally, it is said that 'if you want to judge someone intellectualness then concentrate on approach of asking question rather then approach of answering'. What was the need of asking such disputable question? What he wanted to listen from this professor? Every thing become clear, once you think positively. However,
1. If IMRAN was ignorant of this professor's mental approach, ideology etc etc then its IMRAN's mistake.
2. How can Tableeghi Jummat be held responsible for commitment of crimes in society. Its not tableegh, which teaches them to be thief, be corrupt etc etc. While I have already witnessed hundreds' of people, who left bad life after joining Tableegh. One of the tablighi Jummat motivated more than thousands non muslims to embrace Islam during their campaign in African country(I personally has met that Jummat members).
If you are aware of Islamic preachings then you must have read in books that "near Qayamat, these will be ullema, who will mislead the muslims towards path of Shaitann rather that that of Allah". If someone destroy my this world, I can forgive him but anyone who tries to destroy my Akherat, I can never.
And don't take so offensive about IMRAN KHAN. He is not only your leader, I also do respect him But the thing is that he should never indulge himself in those avenues, which don't belong to him. No one can justify his stance of asking question of this nature from person of that nature.
kmanzar
Voter (50+ posts)
Ref 1 - Surah no. 16 (Al Nahl), ayah 125
ٱدْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِٱلْحِكْمَةِ وَٱلْمَوْعِظَةِ ٱلْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَدِلْهُم بِٱلَّتِى هِىَ أَحْسَنُ
Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way.
Ref 2 - Surah no. 03 (Al Imran), ayah 191
ٱلَّذِينَ يَذْكُرُونَ ٱللَّهَ قِيَمًۭا وَقُعُودًۭا وَعَلَىٰ جُنُوبِهِمْ وَيَتَفَكَّرُونَ فِى خَلْقِ ٱلسَّمَوَتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ
Such as remember Allah, standing, sitting, and reclining, and think upon the creation of the heavens and the earth
Ref 3 - Surah no. 53 (Al Najm), ayah 32
فَلَا تُزَكُّوٓا۟ أَنفُسَكُمْ ۖ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنِ ٱتَّقَىٰٓ
And justify not yourselves. He knows best who it is that guards against evil
Ref 4 - Surah no. 06 (Al An'aam), ayah 159
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا۟ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا۟ شِيَعًۭا لَّسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِى شَىْءٍَ
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least
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khattaksahib
Voter (50+ posts)
Kindly must watch this link.
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Imran's question:
"Well I wish to ask you about Tabligh Jamaat which are in Society. Like Raiwand,
almost 2 million people gather there, but at the same "evils" are in the
society. How this kind of Tablig is different from the Tablig of our Prophet(PBUH)
........(More or less this is what he asked)"
Let us analyze Imran's question: In fact he was asking or wished to ask that
how it is possible that society is not getting rid off the "evils" in spite of the
fact that there is huge number of people making Tablig and then he
compared this age of tablig with that of Prophet(PBUH).:
a) First of Allah Prophet(PBUH) was a Rasool and Prophet have direct
vahee link with the Creator and the Knower of Invisible and Visible;
whereas,
Nodays Muslims are nowhere nearer to that Quality and cannot be and
will not be.
b) the circumstances and realities of the life are entirely different now
although fundamental requirements of the society are the same,
but the related things are entirely different.
Therefore, Imran's question/quest was too much to grasp. The
Alim could not get into that. He targetted the Tablig Jamaat or its
mission which was not fair either.
Well this is the point of ponder at:. Our mosques and places of
worship of full of people. Almost every year millions of people
perform Haj, People do every kind of rituals, even then question is
there that Which way we believers are heading. There must be
some reason for that also? In my humble view, Allah does not
like our specially this habit:
"OH YE BELIEVE WHY YOU SAY THOSE THINGS, WHICH YOU
DO NOT DO",
"NEAR ALLAH THIS IS BIG HATEFUL THING"
Perhaps this may be reason. that We are hypocrites.
"Well I wish to ask you about Tabligh Jamaat which are in Society. Like Raiwand,
almost 2 million people gather there, but at the same "evils" are in the
society. How this kind of Tablig is different from the Tablig of our Prophet(PBUH)
........(More or less this is what he asked)"
Let us analyze Imran's question: In fact he was asking or wished to ask that
how it is possible that society is not getting rid off the "evils" in spite of the
fact that there is huge number of people making Tablig and then he
compared this age of tablig with that of Prophet(PBUH).:
a) First of Allah Prophet(PBUH) was a Rasool and Prophet have direct
vahee link with the Creator and the Knower of Invisible and Visible;
whereas,
Nodays Muslims are nowhere nearer to that Quality and cannot be and
will not be.
b) the circumstances and realities of the life are entirely different now
although fundamental requirements of the society are the same,
but the related things are entirely different.
Therefore, Imran's question/quest was too much to grasp. The
Alim could not get into that. He targetted the Tablig Jamaat or its
mission which was not fair either.
Well this is the point of ponder at:. Our mosques and places of
worship of full of people. Almost every year millions of people
perform Haj, People do every kind of rituals, even then question is
there that Which way we believers are heading. There must be
some reason for that also? In my humble view, Allah does not
like our specially this habit:
"OH YE BELIEVE WHY YOU SAY THOSE THINGS, WHICH YOU
DO NOT DO",
"NEAR ALLAH THIS IS BIG HATEFUL THING"
Perhaps this may be reason. that We are hypocrites.
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moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thanx for ur effort bro. But, how did u find out? I mean did u already know? Or, is there any online search tool to find the reference???
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