The NGO blaming Syrian army for attack on Hazrat Khalid Bin Walid's (R.A.) shrine is UK based and du

[Cheeko]

Rami Abdelrahman, head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, leaves the Foreign and Commonwealth Office after meeting Britains Foreign Secretary, William Hague, in central London November 21, 2011 (Photo: Reuters/Luke MacGregor)


The NGO Syrian Observatory for Human Rights which has reported the attack on the shrine of Hazrat Khalid Bin Walid (R.A.) is UK based and dubious. It is run by a one-man band who carries the pseudonym of Rami Abdel Rehman. There are reports that he is being used to cause chaos and confusion amongst Muslims. When you read the source quoted in today's news regards to the attack on Hazrat Khalid Bin Walid's (R.A.) shrine it can easily be observed that it is the same NGO in all authentic news websites. I am giving the links of some of them.


http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ling-destroys-historic-Syrian-shrine-NGO.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ic-syrian-shrine/story-fn3dxix6-1226683351673

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=60268

http://www.france24.com/en/20130722-army-shelling-destroys-historic-syrian-shrine-ngo

http://www.geo.tv/article-110449-Syrian-Army-shelling-destroys-Hazrat-Khalid-bin-Walids-shrine-

http://tribune.com.pk/story/580314/army-shelling-destroys-historic-syrian-shrine-ngo/


A detailed report of this NGO Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has been published last year in a British news paper Guardian last year which highlights the duplicity of the NGO and exposes the other dubious sources reporting the Syrian war. I am just quoting the relevant part of the news about the NGO and the rest of the startling revelations can be read in spare time [link given].

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking

[h=2]The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights[/h]The justification for the "inevitable" military intervention is the savagery of President Assad's regime: the atrocities, the shelling, the human rights abuses. Information is crucial here, and one source above all has been providing us with data about Syria. It is quoted at every turn: "The head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told VOA [Voice of America] that fighting and shelling killed at least 12 people in Homs province."


The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is commonly used as a standalone source for news and statistics. Just this week, news agency AFP carried this story: "Syrian forces pounded Aleppo and Deir Ezzor provinces as at least 35 people were killed on Sunday across the country, among them 17 civilians, a watchdog reported." Various atrocities and casualty numbers are listed, all from a single source: "Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP by phone."


Statistic after horrific statistic pours from "the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" (AP). It's hard to find a news report about Syria that doesn't cite them. But who are they? "They" are Rami Abdulrahman (or Rami Abdel Rahman), who lives in Coventry.


According to a Reuters report in December of last year: "When he isn't fielding calls from international media, Abdulrahman is a few minutes down the road at his clothes shop, which he runs with his wife."


When the Guardian's Middle East live blog cited "Rami Abdul-Rahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" it also linked to a sceptical article in the Modern Tokyo Times an article which suggested news outlets could be a bit "more objective about their sources" when quoting "this so-called entity", the SOHR.


That name, the "Syrian Observatory of Human Rights", sound so grand, so unimpeachable, so objective. And yet when Abdulrahman and his "Britain-based NGO" (AFP/NOW Lebanon) are the sole source for so many news stories about such an important subject, it would seem reasonable to submit this body to a little more scrutiny than it's had to date.


The Observatory is by no means the only Syrian news source to be quoted freely with little or no scrutiny.


May The Beneficient help us all to analyse the war in Syria and elsewhere without biased goggles. Charitably and graciously do not blame me for taking sides. My intention is to speak up the truth and reduce sectarian tensions stroked by those who are envious of us though we have nothing to offer except poverty. I have no sympathies with the Syrian army or the opposition army. The war is amongst two power hungry forces. I do not belong to Athna Asshariya [Shia sect]. I do not intend to cause any sectarian argument.

 

[Hassan1967]

Syrian Army do what ever you like. Al Qaida and CIA should not won at any cost. Allah and Prophet will forgive to damage to Holy places, can be repaired, but if captured by Al Qaida and CIA alliance, Syria will be beyond any repair.

 

[zhohaq]

SOHR is not the only source many Journalists both freelance and with agencies from all over the world,activist and residents have reported the same thing.

Assad forces have targeted the Mosque of Saifullah Hazrat Khalid Bin Walid :razi: in Homs Khalidiya district for over a month now.

Today it was destroyed.

 

[Cheeko]

SOHR is not the only source many Journalists both freelance and with agencies from all over the world,activist and residents have reported the same thing.

Assad forces have targeted the Mosque of Saifullah Hazrat Khalid Bin Walid :razi: in Homs Khalidiya district for over a month now.

Today it was destroyed.

Thank you for sharing the non existent link. The shrine has been attacked is a fact and there is no denial to it. I am pointing towards the source who has alleged the Syrian army for it.

 

[zhohaq]

Thank you for sharing the non existent link. The shrine has been attacked is a fact and there is no denial to it. I am pointing towards the source who has alleged the Syrian army for it.

Syrian Army bombing Homs , specifically the Khalidiya Neighbourhood is a known fact for months.

Many News outlets with correspondents on the ground from multiple countries have reported this.

The Mosque has been specifically targeted for more than a month.

SOHR is just an aggregator of reports, if anything it been known to have an very strong anti Islamist opposition bias.

Take for examples its "reporting" of the so called Hatla Massacre in Deir Ezor.

http://blog.you-ng.it/2013/06/17/hatla-fabrication-of-a-massacre/

 

[Cheeko]

Syrian Army bombing Homs , specifically the Khalidiya Neighbourhood is a known fact for months.

Many News outlets with correspondents on the ground from multiple countries have reported this.

The Mosque has been specifically targeted for more than a month.

SOHR is just an aggregator of reports, if anything it been known to have an very strong anti Islamist opposition bias.

Take for examples its "reporting" of the so called Hatla Massacre in Deir Ezor.

http://blog.you-ng.it/2013/06/17/hatla-fabrication-of-a-massacre/

You need not share the link of a blog. An authentic news website link could have been enough to prove your point which indirectly augments my drift. The NGO is notorious for dubious reporting and all sides agree to this gospel which has been reported in quite a few news outlets.

Do share a link for today's tragic incident which quotes an alternate source to this notorious NGO.

 

[zhohaq]

You need not share the link of a blog. An authentic news website link could have been enough to prove your point which indirectly augments my drift. The NGO is notorious for dubious reporting and all sides agree to this gospel which has been reported in quite a few news outlets.

Do share a link for today's tragic incident which quotes an alternate source to this notorious NGO.

From the Links you share. AFP interviewed a contact in same Khalidiyeh neigborhood

Speaking to AFP via the Internet, Khaldiyeh-based activist Yazan said the mosque holds symbolic importance not only for Homs' residents but for Sunnis as a whole.
"People used to come and visit the shrine from the world over," Yazan said, adding that the mosque housing the shrine is "practically destroyed".
Khaldiyeh and the Old City neighbourhoods of Homs, still under rebel control, have been under suffocating army siege and near-daily bomb attacks for more than a year.

Mcclatchy News service a month ago interviewed another contact on the ground, when the mosque shelling started intensifying.

HOMS
The Khalid Bin al Walid Mosque in Homs, named for a seventh-century Islamic leader, was the starting point for anti-Assad demonstrations in Homs, a city of 1 million people in central Syria. Mohammad Abu al Fedaa, a spokesman for the local opposition media office, interviewed by Skype, said it became a daily target of government snipers and eventually, “for their safety, people stopped praying there.”
The Ottoman-era building, which sits on the site of an earlier mosque, housed a small museum of Islamic art and rooms for Quranic study. Now it’s badly damaged after months of mortar, rocket and machine-gun fire, videos posted on the Internet show. One wall has been destroyed and the mosque’s domes are filled with holes, apparently caused by shells. Fedaa said mortar rounds and heavy machine guns had caused most of the destruction.
“This is revenge against the heritage and history of the country,” he said.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/...yrian-mosques.html#.Ue2WX42bdj4#storylink=cpy

The Daily Star from Lebanon authenticated Activists accounts from several sources details the earlier damage in 11th of July

Angering Sunnis and apparently galvanizing the opposition, the 13th century Khalid ibn al-Walid mosque in Khaldieh has suffered extensive damage during the siege.
Activists have released videos showing what appeared to be government shelling of the mosque complex over the last 10 days. Holes could be seen in the domes of the complex, while parts of two minarets had been destroyed. On Wednesday, pictures emerged of damage to the tomb of Khaled bin Walid, a companion of Prophet Mohammad celebrated for his military prowess.
“The front has been destroyed and the grave was damaged,” Abu Rami said, adding that rebel fighters were not stationed inside the mosque but in buildings surrounding the complex, vowing to defend it.
“The mosque is such a symbol. It’s so important for Muslims in general but also for us because he was a symbol of fighting. Homs is called the city of Khalid bin Walid.”
“We are afraid that the Shiites [fighting with Assad troops], if they are successful in breaking in to the mosque they will raise their own flags. They will destroy it because they hate everything the Sunnis want.”


Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Mi...o-respite-for-besiegedhoms.ashx#ixzz2ZoDuiHL1

After the regime killed Journalist Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik last year no foreign reporters is reporting from inside Homs neighbourhoods rather relying on contacts they made earlier, along with analysing the ametuer footage coming out.

As for Blog post technically even SOHR is just a blog. It doesn't have nay of its own reporters just picks thing up from social media. But its upto journalist and readers to call alternative sources, look at images and videos and background information to come to a certain conclusion.

The conclusion is crystal clear your darling Bashar have besieged homs since 2 years. Recently with influx of foreign fighters have intensified shelling in Homs neighbourhood of Khalidiyah.

Mercilessly shelled the mosque clearly deliberately for two months.
Today managed to practically destroy it and the shrine within..

I dont know what exactly is your point . Is SOHR in itself reliable? Of Course not it just links to what it collects from people and activist on ground by social media. It does this through its biases.

Journalist can do what ever they like with this. THye can do their own background checks and call their contact and authenticate it or they can be lazy and just reproduce what they see on SOHR verbatim.

But I think you're actually contention maybe that this all is a Hoax and the Angelic Bashar and his forces did not blow up the mosque and this is another elaborate conspiracy from the opposition, maybe they were shelling their own neighbourhood? An d used this footage to generate non existent sympathy?

Is that your theory?

 

[Cheeko]

From the Links you share. AFP interviewed a contact in same Khalidiyeh neigborhood




Mcclatchy News service a month ago interviewed another contact on the ground, when the mosque shelling started intensifying.





The Daily Star from Lebanon authenticated Activists accounts from several sources details the earlier damage in 11th of July



After the regime killed Journalist Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik last year no foreign reporters is reporting from inside Homs neighbourhoods rather relying on contacts they made earlier, along with analysing the ametuer footage coming out.

As for Blog post technically even SOHR is just a blog. It doesn't have nay of its own reporters just picks thing up from social media. But its upto journalist and readers to call alternative sources, look at images and videos and background information to come to a certain conclusion.

The conclusion is crystal clear your darling Bashar have besieged homs since 2 years. Recently with influx of foreign fighters have intensified shelling in Homs neighbourhood of Khalidiyah.

Mercilessly shelled the mosque clearly deliberately for two months.
Today managed to practically destroy it and the shrine within..

I dont know what exactly is your point . Is SOHR in itself reliable? Of Course not it just links to what it collects from people and activist on ground by social media. It does this through its biases.

Journalist can do what ever they like with this. THye can do their own background checks and call their contact and authenticate it or they can be lazy and just reproduce what they see on SOHR verbatim.

But I think you're actually contention maybe that this all is a Hoax and the Angelic Bashar and his forces did not blow up the mosque and this is another elaborate conspiracy from the opposition, maybe they were shelling their own neighbourhood? An d used this footage to generate non existent sympathy?

Is that your theory?

You have become personal. Assad is not my darling. I have clearly mentioned earlier that both sides are power hungry. You can say to me that you want to win the argument without making it a personal issue and I will let you win. You win.

After you have won the argument I may like to add that the activist you quoted has not blamed the Syrian army for the attack. Go through his words again albeit that source is not a neutral and reliable one. Apart from this I may like to highlight that journalists are also present on ground including foreign ones and no journalist has alleged the Syrian army hitherto. http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/qa-foreign-journalists-operate-syria/4592 [source: according to your criteria]


The video uploaded on you tube shows that the exterior structure of the shrine remains more or less intact while the grave area inside has been damaged. This cannot be done by forces attacking from outside but only by someone who is inside. The person in the video though has another story to tell but then he belongs to the opposition forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yal2q2FEZbk&feature=youtu.be


The opposition army members recently vowed to blow up themselves in the shrine[complex] in case the Syrian army gets closer or enters the Khalidieh neighbourhood.

In a desperate move, rebels inside Khaldieh recorded videos of themselves strapped with explosive belts, pledging to blow up themselves and their surroundings if regime forces entered the mosque complex.“We have been besieged here for a year and a month now. We have been pounded with missiles, tank shells and warplanes,” one of the fighters says in the video.


“We have not received any kind of arms despite the pledges from the Free Syrian Army and the Arab countries. Where are the Muslims? We had to make these explosive belts because we have no other means to defend ourselves.”


“We have only one weapon left which we have made by our hands; these explosive belts. They will not enter the grave of Khalid bin al-Walid. We will blow up ourselves among them before we allow them to enter the Khaldieh neighborhood.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Mi...-homs-campaign-intensifies.ashx#ixzz2af3nmzUm

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I do not want to argue any more because you have won the argument which I was trying best to avoid. I managed to avoid the first commentator Hassan1967 though. Thank you for your input.